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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:24 AM
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Spitzer a target because of his reform agenda
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 01:41 AM by mac2
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3065.shtml

This does explain it all. Monica and Bill Clinton too. Who runs this country? The world Mafia?

Families of 911 had a petition demanding Spitzer re-open 911 investigation since many of their questions reminded unanswered. I my mind the government's story of 911 does not ring true.

The punishment is extreme and an example...like a Mafia.

No wonder his wife didn't want him to resign.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:27 AM
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1. yeah, it's Israel's fault that Spitzer has paid prostitutes for years
(sarcasm)
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:34 AM
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4. How do you know the story is not made up? The set up
can't be explained away? Confess or we do something to your family, etc.

It does seem strange that a man like Spitzer would break his own law and fall on the sword for them. He knew how it was done. He has been a favorite of the public and was even talked about to become a candidate for President (a Terry Roosevelt type).

I knew there is something very strange about it all.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:45 AM
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7. Either there was an international conspiracy to make it seem that Spizer was into whores,
...or else Spitzer really was into whores.

I consider the latter more likely.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:24 AM
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10. Not me.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 09:34 AM by mac2
I don't trust anything I'm told by this corrupt media and government. Especially when the dots don't connect. Spitzer may have set this up himself...who knows. I do know a "reformer" is off the table.

The new governor couldn't get elected as mayor in Jewish NY City. Spitzer was Jewish and he did get elected by the whole state in hopes of reforms. Paterson, the media says is liked by both parties. Ahh...that is a warning signal to me. It made my heart sink. Put in the "safe guy" as Governor of a state where Wall Street runs amuck. 911 an event that has not been properly investigated to this date.

The new governor is from a very political machine in Harlem. He couldn't pass his law exam. Many don't but try over and over. John Kennedy, Jr. tried twice.

There is a problem if the new governor leaves the state...a Republican could rule. I hope they a elect new Progressive Lt. Governor in November.

Do all these things happen so Republicans (or Republican lights) do rule in the end? Just asking.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:58 PM
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21. There won't be a new Lt Governor until after the 2010 election. NT
NT
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:29 AM
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2. I Have No Doubt He Was A Target
but shouldn't he have known that and stayed squeaky clean? It sure doesn't absolve him of hypocrisy.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:30 AM
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3. Certatinly Spitzer was TARGETED . . . without doubt . . .
However, whether he was framed is another question . . . . and I don't know how that could
be unless it was like the suggestions about Ted Kennedy and what might have actually happened
at Chappaquidic, compliments of Tricky Dick --- ????


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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:37 AM
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5. He painted the bullseye on himself...
Spitzer is a dumbass.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:42 AM
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6. Ya...fall on the sword.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 01:47 AM
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8. As people say in GD:P, that's politics.
If he wanted to bang whores to the tune of $80K, maybe he should have gone into another line of work. Might I suggest prono!
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:40 AM
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12. He didn't have to pay for that. He's a powerful man.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 10:06 AM by mac2
His wife would have noticed that much money missing from the account don't you think? Like Monica and Linda Tripp...it was a cruel hoax on the American public.

I've seen the prostitute he "allegedly" slept with. She's not much.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 02:29 AM
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9. Banks that turned him in were investigated by Spitzer as AG.
The beginning of Spitzer’s end can be traced to three banking transfers that left his personal account at the North Fork Bank in New York last spring and summer. For reasons that have not been satisfactorily explained, these payments totalling $15,000 attracted the attention of bank employees who monitor accounts for signs of suspicious activity.

Spitzer’s transfers to a company called QAT International Inc – later revealed to be a front for the Emperors Club – were reportedly considered by the bank to be an attempt to avoid another law that requires all transactions over $10,000 to be reported to the US Treasury. Breaking down payments with intent to avoid reporting is an offence known as “structuring”.

Prosecution sources said last week they had no idea at first that the money was related to prostitution. Even after a second bank, HSBC, reported suspicious activity at QAT’s account – and a link was found to Spitzer – it was at first assumed that the money might be related to corruption or improper use of political campaign funds.

The case was initially turned over to the section of the Manhattan prosecutor’s office that deals with political corruption. The ensuing investigation duly established QAT was banking payments to a prostitution network and that Spitzer was a client.

It has since been established that both North Fork and HSBC were on the receiving end of Spitzer investigations in his days as attorney-general. In 2003 North Fork was obliged to refund $20,000 to dozens of home-owners after Spitzer claimed that the bank had been charging illegal fees.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3559410.ece
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:37 AM
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11. And Spitzer was responsible for those new banking
laws. He knew so why did he do it?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 09:49 AM
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13. I think that there is a lot to be learned about this
not that we will ever get the chance to, mind you. He can be as guilty as sin on the charges and there still be a conspiracy going on here. A perk of spying on someone is you can learn things about them that may not be too flattering and may even rise to the level as blackmail material if there is a want to be by the ones conducting the spying. I don't trust the powers to be at all.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:07 AM
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14. Ditto
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I work for workers Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:36 AM
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15. You know what else explains it all:
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 10:38 AM by I work for workers
Spitzer was into high prices call girls, and wasn't smart enough to not get caught.

Just curious, are you from New York? People here stopped liking Spitzer months before this. If he hadn't stepped on so many toes in every part of the political spectrum, people might have been willing to forgive his indiscretions. He didn't, and they weren't. The prostitute scandal is just icing on the cake of a truly inept governor.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:42 AM
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16. Not now but most of my education and working life.
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 10:45 AM by mac2
Spitzer seemed to go off track for unknown reasons after he was in the governor's office. His replacement is not a better thing. It was a hoax and you in NY had better make sure you do get a reformer in public office. There is a lot to do.
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I work for workers Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:57 AM
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19. It wasn't just Spitzers reforms that left him unloved,
it was the ham fisted way he tried to go about them. He just didn't have the touch for elected politics. Take the license for illegal immigrants plan. It wasn't a terrible idea, but he went about it in the worst possible way; acting like he had little room for compromise and right before the general election. That license thing cost me at least three local elections that we needed to win badly.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:48 AM
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17. Unless somebody forced him into buying prostititutes...
...I don't see how anybody is to blame but Eliot Spitzer.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:56 AM
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18. How do you know any of it is real in this Orwellian world?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-16-08 10:59 AM
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20. He apologized to his family and then resigned
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 11:00 AM by high density
I'd assume he's telling the truth in this regard. After all he did just destroy his entire career and put his family through a lot of pain at the same time.
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