How many (eligible voter) liberals are in this country?

[ecstatic]

I'm not talking about the Archie Bunker, conservative democrats.

I'm talking left-leaning (and even far left wing), progressive liberals like the ones on DU, etc.

Does anyone know?

[TML]

1. You can add me

I re-registered as a Democrat yesterday afternoon.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

2. Excuse me, but Archie was a 19%'er.

God love him, but that man would still be defending W to this day. Maybe if Meathead lost his job to outsourcing and Meathead Jr. couldn't get a life-saving operation cause of the crooked ins. corps and Lionel was running for pres... maybe then he would vote for a Dem. but by God he'd tell everyone he voted straight R.

I watched too much TV as a kid. :P

[leftofcool]

3. Not many

90% of your Dems are mainstream, down the middle Democrats

[Breeze54]

4. Got a link to that statistic?

?

[leftofcool]

11. No, Keith O and Tweety were talking about this

briefly during their "analysis" of the last Dem debate. They arrived at this percentage and we found ourselves agreeing with them, although I tend to think it is a bit higher.

[ecstatic]

19. I wish there was something more to go by

So we could know our true voting block power.

[Breeze54]

5. MoveOn has over 3 million registered members and DU has over 117,245; so

maybe a lot? :shrug: I don't know how many are registered at DKos.

[Noirceuil]

6. I'm a Centrist

Far-left and Far-right are nice ways of saying Jonestown Kool-Aid drinkers. I'm a centrist Democrat and very proud to say that I don't drink anyone's Kool-Aid!

[orleans]

7. so, then, how's it going so far? i mean, around here.

[revolve]

9. I'm gonna have to disagree with you

It was the centrist Kool-Aid drinkers that got us into the problems we are in. Its the centrists who allowed the current regime to come to power.

[Noirceuil]

12. No...Please Try Again...

It was the Far-Left who in 2000 spouted the line "there is no difference between Bush and Gore. We need CHANGE", and so they pushed Nader. They were all over the Internet, on every college campus, with Pearl Jam, Bill Maher and other "celebrities" pushing this crap. As a result, we got 8 years of Bush. It was the Centrists who called them out and said how the hell can a Texas Oil Man and an Environmentalist be the same. Obama is the new candidate of the far-left and if they have their way, McCain will win.

[revolve]

15. So what about 2004

I am on the far left and voted Gore '00 and Kerry '04. It is the centerists who capitulate and vote for the IWR that have given these people their power. A democratic centerist is just another name for a republican one night stand. "Oh yeah, I'll call you tomorrow"

[barbtries]

18. i'm far left

and voted for gore. far left does not automatically mean out of touch with reality.

[magellan]

21. You need to try again

You can blame butterfly ballots and Buchanan just as easily as Nader for 8 years of Bush**...and the correct answer is still that he wouldn't be president if the SCOTUS hadn't interfered.

[magellan]

20. Not even Hillary's? n/t

[Richard Steele]

22. Pfft. Judging from your DU posts, you're slightly right of NIXON.

nm

[Nicole]

8. Not enough n/t

[New Dawn]

10. Depends on the issue...

For example, according to various polls, a clear majority want a withdrawal of all US troops from Iraq and universal health care. However, Congress refuses to act. This is because, while we do make up a majority of the population, a minority of the population (the super rich) has far more money to spend on buying politicians than we do.

[leftstreet]

13. How would you define a liberal?

[ecstatic]

14. Someone who supports progressive values but most of all LISTENS

without making knee jerk decisions or judgments.

[Juche]

16. define those traits

What makes one a progressive liberal? What seperates a far left liberal progressive from a centrist?

http://mediamatters.org/progmaj/report

Polls show most americans agree with progressives on the issues.

The problem is fundamentally this, and it needs to be rectified if we want change in this country. People who are GOP and conservative bother to vote, liberals and progressives do not.

People who lean democrat or progressive (racial minorities; poor, middle class or working class; people under 30) have voter turnout around 50%.

People who lean republican (100k+ income, evangelical christian, middle aged white people) have voter turnout closer to 70-85%.

It is so bad that it takes around 2 progressive votes to counter 1 conservative vote (assuming turnout for progressives is 40% vs. 80% for conservatives).

A massive, sustained GOTV drive that lasts for years is the only hope of a true progressive country.

Example: This is from Georgia, but look at the difference in turnout among Latinos and BLacks (who lean dem and progressive) vs. whites who lean GOP.

http://sos.georgia.gov/elections/voter_registration/02-11-07_Race-gender.pdf

Look at turnout for the income quintiles and how they vote.

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2004/0104cervantes.html

If we want a true progressive government we have to get people involved.

[barbtries]

17. add one here

the answer is i don't know, but i suspect it's not as many as we'd like to believe. i stand to the left of just about every person i know, including my own children.