Wtf -- Tina FEY trashes Jon and TDS!1

[UTUSN]

Bartcop always loved her as a good Lib, and I always kept quiet so as not to criticize a good Lib, but why is she sniping at Jon when there are wingnuts galore to go after?

I have LAUGHED OUT LOUD many many more times with Jon than with her. If she talks about "clapping as oppposed to laughing," what does she call HER performances on SNL where SHE would get far more SILENCES than laughs and would have to laugh HERSELF?!

And besides his comedy, Jon runs intellectual circles around all of the wingnut guests who dare show up.

There, a Lib got me to attack a Lib, something WINGNUTS can't get me to do.


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http://www.nypost.com/seven/03192008/gossip/pagesix/pagesix_u.htm

Tina Rips Jon

COMEDY queen Tina Fey says that while she makes people laugh, political pundit Jon Stewart only makes them uncomfortable. Fey tells Reader's Digest she prefers it when audience members laugh rather than applaud because, "You can prompt applause with a sign." She added, "My friend Seth Meyers coined the term 'clapter,' which is when you do a political joke and people go, 'Woo-hoo.' It means they sort of approve but didn't really like it that much. You hear a lot of that on (whispers) 'The Daily Show.' "

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[blm]

1. Tina "I love Rudy Giuliani" Fey?

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[greyl]

2. Joking! nt

[hedgehog]

3. So Tina makes us laugh but Jon makes us think. nt

[Birthmark]

4. Maybe Tina just doesn't get the jokes

Some of them are pretty sophisticated. That's quite different from SNL. But not everyone looks good covered in pie, Tina. Cut Jon some slack.

[selador]

5. pretty impressive bio

"I have LAUGHED OUT LOUD many many more times with Jon than with her."

from IMDB... bio

Came out of Chicago's famed Second City comedy troupe, where she was a writer-performer.

She is "Saturday Night Live" (1975)'s first-ever female head writer.

Was chosen by Entertainment Weekly as the #8 entertainer of the year for the year 2001

As a head writer for "Saturday Night Live" (1975) she has written the Old French Whore, The View, Sully and Denise and the Monica Lewinsky skits, among many, many others.

Was voted one of People's 50 Most Beautiful in the World.

Told "Bust" magazine in 2004 that she considers herself a feminist.

In her first session as a member of the "Saturday Night Live" (1975) writing staff, the 5'4" Tina found discovered that she was a foot shorter than the mostly male writing staff, and felt for a while as if she'd shrunk.

Recorded the voices for the British and German princesses for Williams' "Medieval Madness" pinball machine.

She is an alumna of the Famous Improv Olympic, along with actors Vince Vaughn, the late Chris Farley, Ossie Beck, Mike Myers, Amy Poehler, and Adam McKay.


Elizabeth Stamatina Fey was born in Upper Darby, Pennsylvania, just west of Philadelphia, in 1970 to Donald and Jeannec Fey. Going by the name of Tina, Ms. Fey considered herself a "supernerd" during her high school and college years. She studied drama at the University of Virginia, and after graduating in 1992, she headed to Chicago, the ancestral home of American comedy. While working at a YMCA to support herself, she started Second City's first set of courses. After about nine months, a teacher told her to just skip ahead and audition for the more selective Second City Training Center. She failed but about eight weeks later, she re-auditioned and got into the year-long program. She ended up spending many years at The Second City in Chicago where many SNL cast members first started out. Then in 1995, "Saturday Night Live" (1975) came to The Second City's cast, including Fey's friend, Adam McKay, as a writer, searching for new talent. What they found was Tina Fey. When Adam was made Head writer, he suggested Fey should send a submission packet over the summer with six sketches, 10 pages each. Tina took the advice and sent them. After Lorne Michaels met her and saw her work she was offered a job a week later. She admitted that she was extremely nervous working in the legendary Studio 8H; being a foot shorter than everyone else, younger, and being one of the only female writers at the time. After a few years, Tina made history by becoming the first female head writer in the show's history. Tina also made her screen debut as a featured player during the 25th season by co-anchoring Weekend Update with Jimmy Fallon. Since Tina and Jimmy have taken over Weekend Update it has been considered the best ever. This year she made it to full fledged star by becoming a regular cast member, though she is hardly on the show, besides Update. And during the past two summers, Tina and Rachel Dratch performed their two-woman show to critical acclaim in both Chicago (1999) and New York (2000) and made their Aspen Comedy Festival Debut. Tina is married to Jeff Richmond, a Second City director and currently lives in New York City."

[underpants]

12. Since Tina and Jimmy have taken over Weekend Update it has been considered the best ever.

Who wrote that? Have they ever seen ANY of the Weekend Updates BEFORE that??

Fey and Fallon were not funny at least not in the realm of Chase or even Dennis Miller (who was funnnnny back then) let alone Aykroyd/Curtain or Murray. It was awkward to watch.

[bbernardini]

15. Whoop-dee-crap.

So she wrote a bunch of sketches that aren't funny, and worked with a number of people that are often not funny or clever in any way.

Nothing against you for posting this, of course. :)

[selador]

25. sure. no offense taken

it's just IMDB's bio

i thought mean girls (which she wrote and starred in ) was hilarious

frankly, don't really watch SNL much any more.

[JackRiddler]

41. Stamatina?

She's Greek? If she's Greek, my ethnic programming is required to express approval of her. ;)

[Elidor]

43. Born in 1970, head writer for SNL 5 years later?

That bio is out of whack.

[ceile]

46. I think that refers to the date it premiered.

SNL premiered in 1975.

[underpants]

6. LOL --THE Seth Meyers???

The same guy who was on the same horrific putrid not-even-in-the-same-zip-code-as-funny embarrassment that SNL has become??

:rofl:


Look I like 30 Rock and Fey seems okay (she should really try to distance herself as much as possible from SNL) but this is stupid.

Granted Colbert is funnier than TDS but TDS simply shows concrete evidence of hypocrisy that is the funny. She doesn't seem to know that.

[BlueManDude]

7. I think she's a 9/11 "Security Mom"

I read somewhere that she's all freaked out about security. She's not a hard core RWer but I bet she votes for McCain voter.

[lurky]

8. Sorry, her fake news sucked.

It had no depth. It was all about personalities, gossip, and the same hackneyed caricatures everyone else was doing (Bush is dumb, Bill Clinton is sleazy, Gore is wooden and nerdy). I think she's just jealous because he is so much more successful than she was when she did Weekend Edition.

[Bill McBlueState]

9. Even if Stewart doesn't want us to think so,

People really do watch The Daily Show for news as well as comedy. So it makes sense that people would respond differently to TDS than they do to sketch comedy.

[KittyWampus]

10. Tina Fey, the mediocrity. At least Jon Stewart is original. Your stale parodies ALWAYS run too long

by about 2 minutes.

You take a one-liner and stretch it the breaking point and rely on impersonators aping real people.

Tina Fey needs to check some tape of the REAL SNL when it first started.

People who took creative risks.

[underpants]

17. I agree but I do like 30 Rock

of course most of that is because of Alec Baldwin who should be given an Emmy just to set him off and let anyone else have a crack at winning one in another comedy lead category.

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0034099/quotes

[DS1]

11. Oh shut the fuck up Tina, you talentless sack of shite

You're not clever, when you smirk through your own jokes it only makes you look like an ass because they're entirely unfunny.

[KittyWampus]

14. I'd say she has talent, but she's too afraid to really use it and ends up with half baked crap

that gets one real laugh in the midst of a whole lot of waiting for that one, lonely laugh.

[Buzz Clik]

13. Tina Fey is talented and funny. But, she's got the bug. Bummer.

She'll be better when the election is over.

[rudy23]

16. SNL wishes they had 1/100 the relevance that Stewart has right now.

The Daily Show is the new SNL.

[GreenPartyVoter]

48. I think you are onto something there

[madrchsod]

18. readers digest?

the only people i have ever seen reading this mag are old people in waiting rooms....

[here_is_to_hope]

26. Hey! I resemble that remark!

Ok, I am older but still...
:spank: :hi:

I like Tina but not in a nice way...
But I think as stated above, its apples and oranges.

[madrchsod]

31. i spend a lot of time in waiting rooms because

i`m falling apart! i`ve spent more time in hospitals and recovering than actually working in the last few years

[JPZenger]

36. Full text of interview

http://www.rd.com/celebrities/tv-stars/tina-fey-interview/article.html

There is nothing funnier in the world than Reader's Digest. I especially like their jokes about Studebakers.

[JPZenger]

37. Let's compare laughs

Let's compare the number of laughs during a Jon Stewart monologue to a skit written and performed by Tiny Fey on SNL.

Do I hear crickets?

The Sunset Strip show about SNL was 1,000 times better than 30 Rock, which is just plain annoying. The wrong show got cancelled.

[flvegan]

19. I think they're both hilarious.

If she doesn't like TDS, then that's her opinion. Doesn't change mine.

[selador]

34. i agree

fwiw, i think her strength is in her writing,moreso than her performance

reminds me of al franken in that respect

[speedoo]

20. Tina who?

Oh you're talking about someone from SNL. The show that has plummeted from hilarious, great, etc. to yawn and unwatchable.

And she's actually criticizing Jon Stewart? Now that's actually hilarious.

[Johonny]

24. I agree

I never heard of her until this. SNL is still on the air?

[uponit7771]

40. They're getting cancled when Hillary gives up her run...:-)

[C_U_L8R]

21. Readers Digest? Now that's funny !

[Echo In Light]

22. What scares me is when the audience applauds madly for a fascist guest

Seen it plenty of times...revealing how his audience is clueless re these dire matters.

[DS1]

28. It's usually much more muted than a lib guest

There is a noticeable difference, and of course they're prompted to do so.

[Matariki]

23. Who"s Tina Fey? An interview in THE READER'S DIGEST?! wow.

she must really be important.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

27. Oh Tina, Tina, Tina....

Then why is it that I have gone out of my way to catch every episode of TDS the past 8+ years, but haven't bothered to watch SNL the past few years, even in reruns?? :shrug: SNL used to make me laugh -- and sometimes think -- it has not done either for a very long time. :(

[uponit7771]

39. RIGHT!! After Will Ferrol(sp) went off it went down hill fast IMHO...

[Royal Oak Rog]

29. When Belushi said women are not funny that was idiotic

Of course unless he was talking about Tina Fey. Then he was one hundred percent correct!

[LanternWaste]

30. So-- the progressive entertainers

So-- the progressive entertainers and tearing up each other as much as the progressive members of DU are in GDP.

I'll be very, very glad when the primaries are over and done with and we all can quit the petty, puerile and petulant name calling against each other.


Guess it's simply not popular anymore to enjoy the art of someone who 'disses' one's candidate. ("But... but my entertainer is more entertaining than your entertainer...!")

Yet separating the art from the artist is more than a simple parlor game-- it's a pragmatic necessity.

[GodlessBiker]

32. She's jealous Jon is funnier. THat's all.

[TreasonousBastard]

33. *sigh* "Trashing" is now a slightly snide comment in...

an interview?

Let the outrage blow down the walls of ingnorance and intolerance! Jon Stewart (the hero of today, but not so much last year, or necessarily tomorrow) is viciously attacked by the evil witch (or bitch, as she might prefer) for being more political than funny.

Personally, I rarely miss an episode of "30 Rock" but TDS bores me more often than enlightens.

YMMV.

(As your M will most certainly V when we get a Democratic President next year and Stewart takes his first shot at him or her.)

[UTUSN]

35. I'll see your *sigh* & raise you one. Yip, "slightly snide" but that's the point:

Why waste "star power" with a slightly snide comment aimed at a sympathetic peer instead of unloading big guns on wingnut villains like Dennis MILLER or the lame Shrub-licker Cedric the Entertainer or (actual non-comic wingnuts) LIMBOsevic, INGRAHAM, O'LOOFAH, or Tweety?

She, after all, is on a real network with millions more viewers than he is, even when he hosts the Oscars and nobody watches.

So what was her point with the slightly snide comment? And I've never been one demanding ideological fruits from comedic trees. Jon has often sniped at Dems and I never performed idolatry on, for example, Keith or abandoned him recently as has been done here because of perceived changes in his targets. It just struck me that Tina was taking a pot shot at this one dude instead of at other, truly vile targets that are out there.

It also strikes me that this thread has garnered more responses than all of my others put together (except when I attack "Dr" Laura), one in which I unwittingly unleased a flamefest on a supposed Lib (I actually don't KNOW that she IS a Lib, or just a comedy writer), while my normal, Dem-LOVING fare sinks like stones.

As for "YMMV" I'm guessing it means the first listed below, although I find intriguing possibilities in "Yet More Manipulative Villains" :


Your Mileage May Vary
Your Market May Vary

Yam Mild Mosaic Virus **
yam mild mosaic potyvirus **
Yes Mum More Vanilla *
Yet More Manipulative Villains

[TreasonousBastard]

45. Because she's a comedy writer, not a politcal pundit? Was...

she asked about TDS? Did she bring it up on her own? What was the context for her comment on TDS?

If she's talking about the business, then a simple note about the difference between her shows and TDS is perfectly appropriate, even with a bit of snark. Why should she interject her opinions of the onesided political shows?

Yes, I saw the mass hallucination that Olbermann was somehow no longer "one of us." Curiously, he was only the day before heralded as a "great journalist" because he spoke the truth. The "truth" seems to be a wandering target.

A year or two ago Jon Stewart was also pilloried for not being true to the faith. Some comment he made about the Daily Darling of DU at the time pissed a lot of people off. Completely ignored was that he has never called himself a liberal Democrat and keeps his personal political views well under wraps. He did, however, say in no uncertain terms that anyone who watches his show for the news is an idiot. He read an email from someone who said his is the only news show she needs to watch and called her an idiot on the air.

And, yes, anything negative, particularly about SNL, tends to get vastly more responses for some reason. More people will take the risk of being wrong when speaking ill than when speaking good. I suspect it is the fear that if someone dares to say that the current SNL is at least equal, and possibly superior, to Belushi playing a stupid bee or Chevy Chase falling off the stage once again, that someone will be insulted and flamed unmercifully.

[uponit7771]

38. One tells the truth the other makes us laugh? Tina...don't think you did yourself any good

[NoodleyAppendage]

42. Sounds like Tracy Morgan called her by the right name. n/t

J

[devilgrrl]

44. I'm still trying to figure out why everyone thinks she's so funny.

What am I missing?

[Lex]

47. THAT'S considered "trashing" him?

OMG, now that's funny. :rofl:

[Elidor]

49. Fie! Fie on Fey!

Get thee to a shrubbery! Err, I mean, nunnery.