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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:40 PM
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How will the GOP rebuild post 2008 and beyond??
I was sitting here and all of a sudden it occurred to me that even after the GOP takes the beating it will so richly deserve this fall it will still exist (in a shrunken form to be sure).

And even though we wish it to not be so there is a chance they could come back in a relatively short amount of time (remember it was just 4 short years ago that many were writing about how Rove was going to engineer a generation long GOP lock on power).

Therefor how would the GOP go about recovering from the shellacking it will take this fall (remember that bi elections tend to ago the party in power)??

Just asking??:shrug:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:44 PM
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1. I think they have to break from the religious right. More & more
people are recognizing that the RR is a group of NUTS! Personally I'm hoping they don't recover for at least 30 years! By that time I'll be dead and won't care!
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:52 PM
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5. I disagree: the religious right is the only group that's not complicit here
Neocons and plutocrats have run the GOP into the ground; the religious right is the only part of their coalition that hasn't fled or caused the party damage.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:53 PM
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8. The alternative is to follow the rove strategy
Assume that the base is the most important part, and pander to the religious right like there is no tomorrow. Their other constituencies don't have the numbers the right does. With that baseline to build off, pull as many moderate conservatives and moderate liberals.

I'm not sure it would be a successful strategy; but they might try it anyway.

Bryant
check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:46 PM
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2. That's a really good question
Not a lot of Republican "rising stars" out there. Lt. Gov. Mike Steele of Maryland? Maybe?

I think their salvation is going to come from outside Washington.
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:49 PM
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4. I agree
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 01:50 PM by nels25
I forgot to add that I could not think of anyone that could step into the breach and bring order to the GOP chaos in the short term.

But I am sure some one will try.

I also agree that if that someone is of the religious right, than the GOP can kiss goodbye power for quite a while.:hi: :dem:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:52 PM
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6. Don't forget Adam Putnam
He's the new breed of Newt. He's just like him, only younger. That's the future of the GOP, totally old school. They apparently still believe America wants more Gingrich style rule.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:53 PM
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9. Howdy Doody?



He's a fuggen joke. He was a Thompson backer until he threw in the towel.



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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:55 PM
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10. Of course he's a joke, the entire party is.
But if you watch him work, it's obvious he has big plans.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:49 PM
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3. They should embrace the David Duke wing of the party.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:52 PM
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7. Who says they're going to have to rebuild?
If we don't get our act together soon, they'll win this year.
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:06 PM
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12. No I do not think so
of course as been written a lot we as Democrats are supposed to have that innate ability to pull defeat from victory, I just do not think that is the way it play out this year.

Call me optimistic.:loveya:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:00 PM
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11. They'll go back to their natural place in the scheme of things--bitching from the sidelines.
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nels25 Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:09 PM
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13. Maybe but would they not
want to get back in power at the earliest opportunity??

I mean we did and it looks like we are going to pull it off (of course having a dunce like Bush helped quite a bit, but who knew he was going to screw up so spectacularly).

:shrug:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:01 AM
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14. Absolutely right. We need to make sure these degenerates never get into power again.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:22 AM
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15. The Beast Is Injured....
A lot depends on what happens this November...and while I'm confident of a strong Democratic wave this November, nothing is a given and I suspect the boooosh regime trick bag will be opened to do all it can to steal the election for Gramps and continue its racist attacls against Obama. Hopefully most Americans are seeing through this craven ploys at a desperation tactic...one used by the GOOP as a last resort and not operating from strength.

I've long looked forward to what I'm seeing...a disintigration of the "Base"...or the "Raygun Coalition" (an oxymoron of a term the media made up and loves to use)...nearly 30 years of right wing bravado and rhetoric has been totally discredited and the majority in this country have suffered one way or another. If you haven't been directly hit by Iraq, then there's the economy or Katrina or lack of health care or limited educational opportunities...the country feels constricted and the Repugnicans not only caused it, they profit from it.

If Gramps wins (:shudder:) it will be a hollow one...he'll be indebeted to a lot of the fringe groups and all will be demanding he payback and keep him on a very short leash.

If he loses, then the blame game begins...and what fun that will be. As always, repugnicans refuse to accept responsibility and we'll hear how "stupid" we were or how Gramps sold them out...blah blah blah...and the knives could come out long and hard as the blame game rolls on and the party disintigrates into the religious wing vs. the economic wing vs. the wingnut wing vs. the "moderates"...and each will blame the other for the loss.

I've long suspected that people like Hagel and other "moderates" will make a play for the leadership...trying to pick up the debris, but I see a long trip through the wilderness for these goons as they battle the boooosh years for the next decade.

Democrats have a golden chance this year to create a lasting repugnican minority and even lead to the destruction of the party...the religious right moving one way, the fat cats another, the war hawks a third. The only thing that stops this scenario from happening is overconfidence from Democrats.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:26 AM
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16. Many wrote their obituary in 1964 and then again in 1974.
Don't doubt their ability to survive.
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