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Wed Mar-19-08 04:28 PM
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I know I'll be accused of oversimplication..... |
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Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 04:34 PM by Political Heretic
But I really believe you can pretty much trace almost all of the slow but sometimes briefly interrupted, but ultimately persistent downward decline of this country toward its eventual collapse back to one specific day in 1886.
Anyone know what it was?
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EDIT - I mean what the event was, not the day....and I'm not "schooling" here... just having a little fun.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:30 PM
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:32 PM
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:36 PM
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16. The day we were railroaded? |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:33 PM
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4. Erm... I don't think so. But I thinking more what the event was, not the day. |
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What event were you thinking?
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:33 PM
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January 29 - Karl Benz patents the first successful gasoline-driven automobile.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:57 PM
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26. Ah yeah I wikied that...... that would be an interesting one too...from an environmental perspective |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:33 PM
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8. Would it have anything to do with . . . |
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a court decision that corporation could be treated as a person (sue and be sued; etc)?
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:32 PM
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3. Now that's patently absurd. |
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Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 04:35 PM by Gidney N Cloyd
;) (referring to Jan. 29 here)
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Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 04:35 PM by aikoaiko
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:36 PM
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13. Heh! I did not know that bit of trivia :) |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:34 PM
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10. I thought it was 1868 |
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on July 6th (GWB's birthday). When the corporations were granted the rights of person hood when the 14th amendment was passed.
No small wonder that *'s the poster dude for corporate america.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:35 PM
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11. Nope it was 1886 (at last according to reference included) and that's what I was referring to. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:41 PM
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Well according to this I had the year right and the date wrong by 3 days |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitutionwhich is weird because I had gotten the previous info off wikipedia a while ago. But ya never know with them.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:36 PM
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14. Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad. |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:37 PM
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17. Yeah, but I gave the 'why'. |
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22. And tutti fruitti too! |
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:36 PM
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15. Santa Clara County vs Southern Pacific Railroad Co. |
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Yes, Wiki IS your friend: The US Supreme Court rules on Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Co., granting corporations the same rights as living persons.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:53 PM
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23. hey...I was just thinking |
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if indeed corporations are people, and waterboarding is ok, can we waterboard Halliburton? :shrug:
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:41 PM
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19. Interestingly, Thom Hartmann, brilliant man that he is, says this never happened |
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the Supreme Court ruled no such thing in 1886. The 'corporations are persons' ruling was a fiction created by the court’s reporter. He simply wrote the words into the headnote of the decision. The words contradict what the court actually said. There is, in fact, in the US National Archives a note by the Supreme Court Chief Justice of the time explicitly informing the reporter that the court had not ruled on corporate personhood in the Santa Clara case.
— Thom Hartmann, Dinosaur War, The Ecologist, December/January 2002 Issue
Obviously Hartmann shares the accurate critical analysis of the rise of corporate power as the rest of us, he just points out --- if correct -- that even the sort of triggering event of the rise of corporation was based on a distortion and manipulation of reality.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:44 PM
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Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 04:44 PM by TransitJohn
book Unequal Protection? It's great.
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Wed Mar-19-08 04:56 PM
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24. No I'm a bit on the poor side right now - its on my wish list! :) |
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