Was Rumsfeld antisocial or insane?

[Stinky The Clown]

He sure as hell wasn't normal.

That cutesy shit he used to do when not answering questions (and the press fawning on his sorry, ancient ass).

His smile when he spoke of the war.

His fucked up micromanaging.

Was he nuts or just a mean of fuck?

I think he was nuts.

I think his buddy Cheney is nuts, too. Maybe even more nuts.

[yourout]

1. Both

[patrice]

2. How Little Miss Goodie New Shoes Rice?

Stone cold witch.

Who told her to let Tenet rant on like that? Cheenee?

[againes654]

3. Evil is the best word that I can think of

for both Rumsfeld and Cheney. If they were nuts, that would imply that they aren't really at fault, and they are sure at fault. These bastards knew exactly what the hell they were doing. They purposefully deceived the American people.

[malaise]

34. Knew and continue to know

They are still deceiving the American people.

[RufusTFirefly]

4. Perhaps sociopathy is ascendant, evolutionarily speaking

That's what worries me.
It seems that cold, heartless bastards are increasingly taking over, while those of us burdened with a conscience are being overrun.
Imagine how liberating it must be to care nothing about human rights and to lack even a shred of compassion.
A key to success?
Perhaps.

[Stinky The Clown]

7. Oh, I'm not so sure human nature is all that changed from the ancient times ...... look at .......

Caligula ...... Nero ...... Atilla ...... a couple of the Pharaohs ..... and on and on .......

[timtom]

52. Not a bit of it.

They are still in the divine rights king feudal mode. They continue the tradition of usurping individual sovereign rights by means of deception, murder, and theft.

[Amonester]

5. he Was.

in fact, methinks he Still is as he Still works (in the Shadow...) for enriching his wackier buddy chainey.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. Blasts from the past:

In answer to your question, batshit crazy.

[mac2]

46. I can see that superior personality trait in his handwriting.

His big capitals look down on the others. He is bigger than life and out there. Is that a money bag in his "D"? That hook in his lower zone "F" is a hook and sharp. Ouch. That "o" on has a loop to keep secrets.

Handwriting only tells us what we already know.

[housewolf]

8. Do you remember when Rumsfeld was considered to be oh! SO sexy!

Made me puke

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[Stinky The Clown]

12. I always thought he looked more like Central Casting's answer to a call for a Nazi colonel

[housewolf]

20. Yeah, I can see that...

n/t

[lumberjack_jeff]

44. Like this guy.

[mac2]

13. Like Kissinger?

He got what he deserved...Nancy.

[housewolf]

19. Hmmmm... I'm not remembering that about Henry...

Thank goodness!

[mac2]

21. There was an article in Cosmopolitan magazine about Henry.

He was a good catch in DC.

[Virginia Dare]

36. I remember that well..

when he was the eligible batchelor about town in D.C. He dated Angie Dickinson and Jill St. John.

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[ColbertWatcher]

9. He's Republican n/t

[mac2]

10. That little smile on his face at inappropriate times....

said he was hearing voices (maybe Bush's?). He may have been Schizophrenic.

[gateley]

11. Anti-soul. nt

[magellan]

14. Why the past tense? Are you going to make my night and tell me he's he dead?

:)

He's a sociopath like the rest of them.

[Stinky The Clown]

16. Out of sight, out of mind ...... and a touch of wishful thinking

On 4,000 Day I just find myself on a mental retrospective.

[mac2]

17. They can't help themselves and will be back in power

in the future. Like they've been re-invented and we forgot their evil deeds.

Shouldn't Rumsfeld be in jail for his illegal use of Depleted Uranium polluting the earth and destroying the health of our military over there and the Iraqis? That does go around the earth so we too may have had some in our blood, etc.

I tell you what. I won't vote for any candidate who won't address these problems and debt caused by the past administration leaders and liars.

[magellan]

23. Me too, and I'm seething.

5-year anniversary, 4000 dead Americans, 1,000,000 dead Iraqis, commas everywhere. And further retrospective watching Bush**'s War.

We know. We know. :cry:

But I got to take some of it out tonight on a Repub who has wandered into our midst. I wish I could say it helped.

Forgiveness just isn't in me for them anymore.

[mac2]

15. He changed our military to be faster and more deadly...

From "our military" to a world mercinary force with our tax dollars. A military answerable to a few Cons. Everything secret to we the people who pay for it.

The Defence Department had a robbery (during Rumsfeld) of trillions which are still missing. "Change of face law" allowed him to leave government with his bag of pillage and corporate director seat.

When they wanted to make our government "smaller" bases were closed. Now they are rumored to be training for Brits and mercinaries. Maybe prisons for "terrorists" within (RW political enemies).

A new defence system which left us broke and un-defended for what ever reason (disaster, invasion, etc.).

Anyone worried but me?

[housewolf]

18. H2S, you're bringing back all sorts of things better forgotten...

Remember "snowflakes"???

How 'bout "stress positions? I stand all day, what's the problem????"

[cliffordu]

22. Is that really a question??

[Warpy]

24. Smugly insane, the lot of them

They all bought into the same dream world, and that's all it was. It had absolutely no chance of success because all their false premises and funny equations doomed it from the start.

These men are what war crimes trials are designed for. Alas, most of them will die very old men in comfortable beds.

[lutefisk]

25. You shrunk countless, yet to be written books into four sentences.

:thumbsup:

[Warpy]

54. I know. I wish I could write the books

instead of being so damned pithy. I would make a fortune.

[mac2]

49. RE: your quote by Galbraith

We Scots are a frugal and common sense bunch. I loved to hear this man talk on CSPAN. Bush administration economic geniuses aren't.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JK_Galbraith

[Warpy]

53. He was the last of the real economists with clout

If you want to know what happened to this country, read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_school_(economics)

This country will not be right until that institution is razed to the ground and the earth sown with enough toxic waste to keep it barren for all eternity as a warning to other greedy men who prey upon the stupid.

[leftofthedial]

26. fricking bugnuts

[eridani]

27. How about sociopathic? Works for me n/t

[grasswire]

28. Wolfowitz, Perle, Yoo.......

...all of them nuts. Hollywood couldn't have written or cast a movie as filled with evil.

[mac2]

37. Some of the generals said he was stupid.

Guess he made up for his stupidity by being a Leo Strauss con man.

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles9/Amr_Wolfie.htm

[earth mom]

29. Total Sociopath. They ALL are.

:puke:

[ColbertWatcher]

31. They? Who is they? n/t

[mac2]

41. The Cons

http://www.whodidit.org/cocon.html

[ColbertWatcher]

55. My answer, too...

...thank you for the link.

[Adsos Letter]

30. I think he was a man consumed with his own self-perception...

of himself as a heroic figure...and, unfortunately for the rest of us, in a position of power which allowed him to engage in that fantasy.

[miyazaki]

32. The Lord of Destruction

[bdamomma]

39. these are our own domestic enemies, isn't

there an amendment if there are domestic enemies, the People can do something about it????

[cboy4]

33. He's definitely a sociopath....not a bit bothered by

the slaughter and the suffering...almost seemed to get off by it,

He's was a pathological liar about everything.

Really, one of the worst human beings imaginable.

[mac2]

40. Wolfie and Rumsfeld were in Leo Strauss' class

at the University of Chicago. They were taught they were the elite few meant to rule.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss About Leo Strauss.

If reading through this give you a headache read this article. It sums it up.

http://www.alternet.org/story/15935 The Neo Cons and their goals.

I'm sure their parents didn't struggle to educate them to be such people.

At that time in the Chicago area not that many went to college. It was 15% or something like that. Is this the home of the Neo Cons? The arrogant and immoral few meant to rule? Educated Al Capons?

I run into area people who think because they have a college degree they are above everyone else (intelligent, superior, etc.). I've never seen so many compared to NE or TN, etc. They assume since you aren't bragging you don't have a degree. Should they even associate with you? Who are you anyway?

As in any society I've met some very intelligent and nice people so I can not put them all into a little box. But there are others...

[truth2power]

42. There's been little, if any, discussion of Leo Strauss around here lately..

Thanks for raising this issue again. Newer posters should have an opportunity to understand who and what he was. How he believed only the elites have a right to make decisions for the "masses" and how it was ok to lie to advance your agenda. Also his idea of esoteric and exoteric messages.

Most of the slime currently infesting our so-called government are Straussians.

[mac2]

45. They are royal want na bes.

They want to be medieval kings and lords. I am convinced some people become mentally ill when given power. Lincoln said, you can test a persons character when you see how they handle power.

After WWII we should have taken the monarchy from the Japanese Emperor who was allowed to live...even though his decisions killed many. I think they didn't do it because of the British Queen who wanted to stay in power. We should have no royals in our modern world. It is undemocratic and sometimes dangerous since one person has too much power and wealth.

These people won't give up their power. I saw an advertisement in our food store (TVs with ads and "advice for food preparation") by Madeline Albright. She was a college President for awhile but is no longer. I guess she's job hunting until another Democrat is back in power.

[Virginia Dare]

35. I vote for clinical sociopathy..

when it comes right down to it, little separates Rummy from Charlie Manson personality wise--something definitely not right in the head there.

[bdamomma]

38. both psychopaths.

they should both share a cell together, afterall Cheney loves his mentor.

[lumberjack_jeff]

43. Wealthy and mean, and wanting more of both. n/t

[chieftain]

47. "Donald Rumsfeld is the rottenest son of a bitch in the world"

That is what Henry Kissenger, of all people, said to Arthur Schlesinger about his colleague in the Nixon WH. The quote was contained in the Historian's journal which was recently published and is an especially good read.
Can any of us imagine how bad a person you must be to have Kissenger talk that way about him ?

[mac2]

48. Isn't that the truth....for once.

[spanone]

50. i think they're shrewd coniving sociopaths

[timtom]

51. Neither.

Possessed by demons after making a pact with Satan.