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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:07 AM
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Deeper and deeper into madness they go
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 08:21 AM by underpants
http://thinkprogress.org/

Cheney On 4,000 Troop Deaths In Iraq: ‘The President Carries The Biggest Burden, Obviously’
President Bush held no public events on the issue today, although he briefly thanked the “courageous people willing to serve” while at the State Department today. Moreover, in an interview with ABC News today, Vice President Cheney expressed gross callousness about the 4,000 dead troops, implying to Martha Raddatz that the troops volunteered for duty.

Who, in Cheney’s eyes, is hurting even more than the troops and their families? George W. Bush:

The president carries the biggest burden, obviously. He’s the one who has to make the decision to commit young Americans, but we are fortunate to have a group of men and women, the all-volunteer force, who voluntarily put on the uniform and go in harm’s way for the rest of us.




WSJ defends discredited claims of Saddam-al Qaeda ‘collaboration.’
Responding to the recently released Pentagon study on the links between Saddam Hussein’s regime and Al Qaeda, a Wall Street Journal editorial claims that the report “buttress the case that the decision to oust Saddam was the right one“:

Five years on, few Iraq myths are as persistent as the notion that the Bush Administration invented a connection between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda. Yet a new Pentagon report suggests that Iraq’s links to world-wide terror networks, including al Qaeda, were far more extensive than previously understood.

In fact, as has been widely publicized, the new study “found no ’smoking gun’ (i.e. direct connection) between Saddam’s Iraq and Al-Qaeda.” Nevertheless, many conservatives have tried to cast the report as a vindication of their wild theories about a Saddam-Al Qaeda alliance.


O’Hanlon: Surge architects are the ‘Vince Lombardis’ of Iraq war.
These people did two things that I think would have made Vince Lombardi proud. One, they stuck with it, and they persevered through difficult times. And two, they stayed focused on fundamentals.


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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:12 AM
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1. I love how Cheney keeps hitting the "volunteer" aspect of our military;
especially when, talking about the number of Americans who died in Iraq, he said "hey, they're volunteers".
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:14 AM
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3. Goes back to Rummy's comments about Vietnam
and it is also, I think, a talking point in the conservative world about how it is college educated white kids who are doing all the fighting.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:20 AM
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6. Volunteering presumes a free person. When you are lied to, you are enslaved by ignorance
of that about which you have been lied to.

Yes, our soldiers are not blameless is choosing to go kill people who didn't need killing, but they would not have done what they have done if Cheenee hadn't done what he did. Cheenee is an EVIL man.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:14 AM
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2. These people are sociopaths...
Sociopaths lack the ability to feel empathy
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:30 AM
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10. and drunk with power and greed.
all of them should be incarcerated and put in Prison.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:14 AM
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4. WSJ, "There was 'collaboration', therefore CHILDREN should die."
I know WSJ would dispute the use of "should" in my paraphrasing of their statements, but if you're saying there should be a war because there is something that someone says is collaboration, well, wars don't happen without CHILDREN dying, so WSJ IS saying CHILDREN should die for our paranoia.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:16 AM
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5. How "depp" can they get?
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. You might want to correct the typo in the subject line.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:22 AM
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7. D'oh!
thanks
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:23 AM
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8. .
:hi:
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:28 AM
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9. I just resisted the urge
to fly over my cube wall on my witches broom and pummel the woman around the corner from me. She spouted that 3000+ were killed 9/11 and you don't hear about them, so why the big news about 4000 soldiers.

I think today, I'll sit quietly with my headphones on. I haven't been here long enough to pummel other employees! :mad:

Then again, she is a McCain fanatic, with 3 boys about to be Iraq fighting age. Maybe I should ask her how many she is willing to sacrifice? and for how long?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:34 AM
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11. CNN doesn't report on Iraq because no one is interested in it
or something like that

9/11 either because...um... oh yeah ISSUE #1 The economy

ISSUE #1 The economy

ISSUE #1 The economy

ISSUE #1 The economy


Full coverage See how the slumping economy affects you. All this week, on CNN.

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/americas_money/2008/
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:53 AM
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18. They'd be interested if the corporate media told the truth
I'd be willing to wager large amounts of money that we would not be where we are now if the corporate media had reported the facts from the beginning, instead of giving credence to BushCo's lies by repeating them without investigating.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:44 AM
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12. Jeez...He really does appear to be profoundly burdened. Just look.



So much more so than this fellow:





Or especially this guy:





Cheney is such a fucking asshole it is beyond belief.

"So?"

:wtf:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:50 AM
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13. A great synopsis
So? may have just over taken "empty spectacle"* as the catchphrase for this misadventure in governance

*-Frank Rich coined that phrase.

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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 01:33 AM
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19. He is so joyfully contemptuous of the average American.
He truly cares only about those like him in the top 2% income bracket. And I doubt he really "cares" about them either. But, he does, care what THEY think.

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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:42 AM
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16. this compilation is actually heartbreaking....nt
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:50 AM
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14. LIE: "and go in harm’s way for the rest of us." You mean for BIG OIL, right?
Dick, you are lying again. It is not for the "rest of us" because we have not sent them!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:55 AM
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15. So?
Since when does he care about them or anyone?

"You can't be blown off course by polls,"
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:46 AM
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17. Cheney's real intentions
world domination

He is Ernst Stavros Blofeld.

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