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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:17 AM
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Politicians - Out of touch or just totally stupid?
Whenever I hear one say they want millions of dollars to provide counseling and/or training to people about to lose their homes or their jobs it just makes me want to :puke:

These people need money and for their jobs they already have to stay here in this country :mad:

Counseling my f***ing ass!
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:19 AM
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1. It's a kinder, gentler "Let them eat cake!" moment... IMHO (n/t)
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:22 AM
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4. perhaps he needs reminding what happened to the last person
who made a let them eat cake type remark to the people they oppressed.

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:20 AM
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2. "Out of touch or just totally stupid?" Neither: fulfilling their role to corporate pay masters
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:28 AM
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7. Exactly! - n/t
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:21 AM
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3. the counseling is for when they have to work at a minimum wage job
and live out of their car if they are lucky enough to have a car. they can be convinced that they are deliriously happy with the situation.

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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:45 AM
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14. Add mandatory health insurance for $400+ a month on top of that
But that's only if you're healthy, if not the insurance will cost about $600+, high deductibles and co-pays.

Is counseling going to put more money in someone's pocket for stuff like that? :grr:
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:22 AM
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5. Yeah what that hell that's all about?
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 08:23 AM by MikeNearMcChord
They were spouting that shit during NAFTA, that might have made sense, but then came outsourcing, so what does one train for? Wall Mart greeter and Mc Donald fry clerk.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 10:37 AM
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13. Two or three more years of this economy
Wal-mart greeters and fry clerks will have a waiting list and you'll have to be related to or referred by a current employee in order to even get an interview.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:25 AM
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6. Those options are not mutually exclusive
I have had to deal with politicians who were both out of touch AND totally stupid. :hi:
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 08:48 AM
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8. I love it when they talk about
retraining people from the manufacturing sector for those higher paying high tech jobs!
:sarcasm:

(spoken as an out of work IT guy with 25 years in the field)

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:43 AM
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9. Out of touch.
Remaining out of touch requires that they mouth a lot of stupid platitudes, though. And they are frightened as hell of us, the great unwashed.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:58 AM
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12. "Out of touch" necessitates an unknowing, but these folks DO know all too well
Don't be fooled; feigning 'out of touch' is akin to the establishment friendly "criticism" of Bush/Cheney's supposed "incompetence."
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:01 AM
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15. I don't think they're feigning.
Our "representatives" tend to live on another plane of existence, where no one struggles from paycheck to paycheck. Even when they've heard of such things, they tend to fumble expressions of empathy, so removed are they from the fray.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 12:23 PM
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17. I once worked for a guy worth 2.5 million
Edited on Tue Mar-25-08 12:26 PM by DaveTheWave
At least that's what another boss of mine once said. He paid everyone $7 an hour whether you worked there 10 days or 10 years. Anytime people asked for a raise and said how much they were struggling with their bills he'd tell them that they could live just like him on a large ranch, take vacations to Europe and buy brand new trucks every six months like him if they'd just learn how to budget their money. He was being dead serious when he'd say that and he also claimed that no one was a bigger christian, man of faith than he.

He got all his money and started his business by marrying into a wealthy family when he was only making $7 an hour so the story goes.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-26-08 05:42 AM
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18. I do. Those "stupid platitudes" they espouse are proven effective. Proof? U.S. populace buys it...
Every time. There is a great deal of focus placed on what lies and spin politicians perpetuate, it doesn't happen randomly, coincidentally, as if within a social vacuum. The systems of propaganda and thought control, the efficacy of these systems, rely on carefully managed PR, speech writers, think tanks, etc
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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:53 AM
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10. Out of touch...
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 09:54 AM
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11. yes.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-25-08 11:06 AM
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16. I say all of the above.
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