What is a latte liberal?

[XemaSab]

Is it a matter of income, education level, where you live, "culture," lifestyle, or some other factor? :shrug:

Thanks for your responses.

(And on edit after about 10 responses: duh, it's a stereotype, but it's a useful stereotype. Ever been to Marin County? I rest my case.)

[islandmkl]

1. it's nothing more than someone's smarmy label for their opposition....

look to hillary's staff for a further explanation....

[Prefer]

2. A label used by people who are afraid you are hipper than they are

[Chulanowa]

3. It's a freeperism adopted by... Well... It's a freeperism

Apparently we're "too good" to enjoy the burnt coffee full of grounds that "Real murrikans" drin?

[ET Awful]

4. Hell if I know, I'm a Dunkin' Donuts Regular liberal myself

:P

[Elspeth]

5. A Starbucks customer who doesn't have change for the homeless guy outside the door

:)

I think they're usually moderate Republicans.

[kimmerspixelated]

6. A Dem who wears a 3x????!!

[fascisthunter]

7. I Think I Know, But I Think I'm a Black Coffee Liberal

two sugars and sometimes some cream.

[Dr Fate]

8. Somone who buys breakfast at Dunkin Donuts or McDonalds?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=latte+dunkin+donuts

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=latte+mcdonalds&btnG=Search

Wow- pretty elitist stuff, huh? ;)

It's part of some GOP/DLC myth left over from the 90's.

It goes something like this: "Real Americans" are rural people without internet connections who apparently spend their year preparing for the county fair and eating crappy corporate food.

In other words, a myth perpetuated by those who would divide us by class- the DLCers & GOP.

[panader0]

9. What's a metrosexual?

To me the Dem party has always stood for the working class, not someone who holds their pinkie up when they drink their latte. Whatever happened to coffee? It's become a status symbol. I can buy a month's worth of coffee (that I brew at home) for the same price as a Starbuck's latte. Ridiculous.

[kimmerspixelated]

10. To answert your question..

I think it is someone who like to do it on the subway.

[Dr Fate]

12. Riiight. It's so "elitist" that McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts sells it.

Next thing you know working class people will be eating that exotic dish known as "sushi" and using olive oil when they cook.

Guess what, working class & middle class people go to corporate chains as much as anyone.

This whole characterization assumes that working class people only eat cheap-o, bland food. Guess what- they watch Food Network these days, and McDonalds, Dunkin Donuts and grocery stores know that.

Liberal bashers apparently need some new food-based myths.

[panader0]

28. Actually, I don't do McDonalds or any of that

Yes I use olive oil. I eat well, and at home. I shop for savings, and don't know anyone who watches Food Network. Too busy working.

[Dr Fate]

31. Not too busy working to surf the web and post at DU though.

I pinch my pennies as well- and a watch-gasp- cable TV just like working class and other middle class people do.

And sorry, but you know lots of people who watch Food Network, or have at least seen it. You may as well say you dont know anyone who watches American Idol, or has seen it.

I cant even believe we are having this converstaion- FOOD? Coffee?

Spare me the myths of the noble working class DEM who is so poor and working so hard that he is unaware of mass popular culture...

For the record, I drink coffee at the office w/ powdered creamer- so I guess I'm in the clear. ;)

[panader0]

41. Come work with me some day mister office guy Ha ha ha

[Dr Fate]

43. LOL! I did not work in an office until I was 33 years old. I think I could hang, buddy.

And the office I now work at is a charity for the homeless-

DUH-OH!!!Despite your wedge-labels-I guess I DO know a thing or two about poor folks.

And are you really trying to say that ALL people who work in offices are fancy-pants types who cant be good DEMS who can relate to other DEMS? Please.

What's the next divisive target- people who managed to work their way up and get a degree?

Car washes, flipping burgers, washing dishes, land-scaping- anything I could get-If it's rewardless grunt-work, I've probably done it.

No wonder it took me 12 years to get through college & graduate night classes (paid for by programs put forth & championed by by latte liberals-AKA wealthy DEMS in office, no doubt)I wish I could have gone straight through like the rich kids, but that's life.

You prove my point with your personal attack- these labels are used by various conservatives, be they DLC or GOP, to divide DEMS-no matter their origins- into economic classes.

I refer you to post #42 if you really want to know more about this "latte Liberal."

[TomInTib]

13. Does the glare from my manicure bother you?

Two coats of Kleer sure look cool when my hand is wrapped around a guitar neck.

I went into a Starbucks for the second (and last) time in my life last week.

Bought a bottle of water.

[mondo joe]

25. Like that working class FDR?

:eyes:

[Dr Fate]

32. Martinis and a cigarette holder- musta been a big city SISSY!!!

;)

[JerseygirlCT]

74. Why can't the party stand for ALL people? And why the need

to stereotype any of them.

Do you think (it seems you do) that "working class" means more virtuous?

[TK421]

11. I'm not sure, but if you are what you drink, then I'm as Liberal as they come!

We're fortunate enough to have an Italian Cannoli shop right across the street from my job, and I get at least two lattes a day from them ( not too expensive, either....about $2.30 ) :9

[MADem]

14. Someone with sufficient disposable income to afford Starbucks or other

specialty coffee shops on a regular basis.

A limousine liberal, however, is wealthier than a latte liberal.

I'd say the first consideration is income, but then there's a culture/lifestyle aspect to it as well.

[Dr Fate]

17. Or other elitist places such as McDonalds & Dunkin Donuts.

And dont get me started on those snooty "olive oil" liberals.

REAL DEMS use crisco.

[XemaSab]

18. REAL dems use bacon grease

from their own hogs. :D

[Dr Fate]

22. Yes- the hogs that they enter into the county fair, while everyone else surfs the web.

One thing is for sure- the salt of the earth hates good coffee (and those who drink it) and they aint got no time for some fancy 'lectric internets.

[MADem]

19. Well, I know you are trying to be snarky, but naaah. Dunkin Donuts, which is owned

by the Carlyle Group, has an ad campaign that is centered around being "anti-Starbucks" where you can order what you want not in French, Italian or "Fritalian" but English. And McDonald's is a "regular guy" place where you can get a good cup of coffee if you are on the road. At least that's how they market themselves.

Funny, in Italy, it's cafe if you want a short little cup of strong coffee, and it's cappucino if you want coffee with frothy shit on top of it. Basta! None of this latte ya-ya crap. I guess some people enjoy it, though. Wish I'd thought of it--talk about legalized robbery!

[Dr Fate]

21. What a load of crap. This bizzare characterization assumes that all "Real DEMS" like crappy stuff.

I cant believe some of us are buying into DLC/GOP propagnda that tries to divide Democrats over what they EAT & DRINK.

Guess what- working class and middle class people drink and eat all kinds of things depending on where they live. They like better tasting coffee to the point that McDonalds and gas stations sells it.

I cant believe you are being serious. Are you? Cant be- whoa- you had me going there.

As I said, the "latte liberal" bashers really need new myths/food items to bash liberals with. I suggest olive oil- surely the REAL DEM base doesnt have Food Network yet- right?

[MADem]

33. To each his, or her, own. Just because I think a cup of coffee with fluff on top is crap

that doesn't mean that you HAVE to share my view. Unless you are weak and easily influenced.

And if you think that you can be "divided" by forces of the DLC :eyes: or the GOP over what you eat and drink, you're a real hypersensitive weakling and easily influenced. That's just absurd.

You need to understand that people who don't make a lot of money don't go tossing their cash away at Starbucks. The family of four getting by on fifteen grand a year probably only sees the inside of a Starbucks if they WORK there, or when someone in the family has to pee.

When they on a rare occasion can afford to dine out, though, their affordable family restaurant is often McDonalds.

They aren't posting on internet message boards about how terrible the phrase "latte liberal" is. They don't drink lattes and they can't afford a computer--or the connection that goes with it.

So yes, I AM being serious. Entirely so.

It IS economic, the distinction. Latte liberals, though sneered at by the GOP, are people who actually vote against their economic interests. They're rich enough to benefit from Bush's tax policies, but they vote for Democrats to support social programs for the greater good. Limo libs, another term intended as a pejorative, are the same way--except the BushCo tax policies benefit them even more.

[Dr Fate]

35. GOP? Actually, Now-a-days I hear the term more from Pro-Hillary DUers.

Which is probably what prompted a thread about the phrase. I've heard it a lot on DU lately.

If they are not using it in an attempt to divide DEMS along class lines, then I must be missing something.

It's more of their myths- that middle class & working class DEMS dont surf the web, read chain-emails or eat & drink things commomly sold at corpoarate chains.

It's crap. It's myths that may have been true in the nineties- the decade all those types still live in.

All I'm saying is these guys need a new myth/food item to bash liberals with.

And when I see rich GOPers/DLCers or Hillary eating Dinty-Moore chicken pot pies and Slim-Jims, then we can talk about this "serious" issue. LOL!!!

[MADem]

39. I don't know where you're getting these characterizations. I am not TALKING about

"middle class Dems"--how doltish can you be? Fifteen grand for a family of four are POOOOOOOOOOOOOOR Democrats.

And too bad if you don't appreciate this fact, and it IS a fact--POOOOOOOOOOOR Democrats aren't sipping lattes at Starbucks. They're buying rice and beans and chicken thighs every now and again, no fruit to speak of, and trying to pay a little on the light bill so they Electric Company doesn't cut them off. They keep the heat at fifty and wear coats in the house. These POOR Democrats can't afford Dinty Moore pot pies--those are a LUXURY.

You don't seem to appreciate how many Democrats are actually living on the edge, apparently. There are lots of 'em, and the number increases every day.

Now, let's talk about POOOOOOOOOR Republicans....oh, WAIT...there AREN'T any poor Republicans.

[Dr Fate]

42. Actually, you just described how I grew up in Vance County, N.C.

Where we got a week off school during tobacco harvest.

Beans & rice? Try pan-cakes and .25 cents boxes of mac & cheese- it's cheaper. Good god- so now I'm being lectured on the plight of the poor as if I dont know.

The difference is I'm not using this to say I'm a better or more knowledgable DEM than the DLCers here at DU who use the "latte liberal" label to divide DEMS by class.

The difference is I can appreciate how poor people live (from experience) without belittling or guilt-tripping working-class and middle class Democrats for what they can afford to eat and drink.

Educated "Latte Liberals" in office were probably partly responsible for the welfare checks & food stamps we got, thank you.

Who woulda thought I'd grow up to be educated and drink coffee at a McDonalds or Donut shop now & then?

Now put on your hair-shirt and eat your beans. I'm assuming the pro Hillary posters who use these labels need to leave the public Library before it closes and go to their non-internet accessed share-cropper cabins . ;)

[MADem]

53. A twenty five cent box of mac isn't going to feed four people. Rice and beans will.

And you can get them for next to nothing in the right stores.

I have news for you--Dems ARE divided by class. And by education. And by all sorts of groupings.

The candidate who wins is the one who "gets" that.

All politics is local.

I'm not "guilt tripping" either--maybe you are projecting, or something? Why are you so pissed about poor people? And why are you playing that "waaah waaah pro-Hillary" card?

You are pretty hysterical over an issue that might make an interesting conversation if all the "hectoring" were stripped away.

Have a nice day.

[Dr Fate]

61. Hillary supporters on DU have been calling Obama supporters "latte liberals"- it's crap.

But go ahead and pretend you havent seen Hillary supporters co-opt, defend and agree with this GOP talking point.

It certainly is an interesting conversation- it involves the fact that the DLC types have borrowed a label from the GOP-"latte liberals" to try to divide the party by class- and suggest that only snooty, rich, out-of-touch people support Obama- dont pretend you have not seen this more than once.

The same type of crap is used to paint the netroots in that light.

Bringing up DLC/Hillary supporters as the ones who are doing it is not a "card"- it's just a fact.

Never pissed about poor people as you charge... that box of mac worked fine for two!! LOL!

[MADem]

62. No, I haven't seen that. But go ahead and insist that I have, when I haven't.

We're done. You're too pissed off.

Poverty was one of the reasons I found Edwards to be an engaging candidate--he spoke to those issues frankly. I simply think America can and should do better. It's a topic of interest to me.

[Dr Fate]

63. I'm not Poed-I just cant believe you havent seen DLCers characterize the net-roots as elitist

Hard to buy that one.

And the whole "latte Liberal" label that you are defending as legit is just an extension of it.

Obama supporters have been characterized by DU's DLCers as yuppie, elite, web-savy people who dont understand the issues of regular people-ie the Latte Liberal.

It's a GOP spawned insult that some co-opt and defend here in this very thread. Look at this very thread if you are having such a hard time finding examples of people defending this as a legit characterization-LOL!

If we are done, it's not b/c I'm POed- it's b/c you know I have a point...

[MADem]

64. Well, you can buy what you want, but I don't lie. We're done because you

are questioning my veracity, as well.

[Dr Fate]

68. If you say you never saw the DLC characterize the net-roots as elite, then you dont DU much.

It has been a constant theme-you must not come to DU very much, or you must mainly post in the Lounge...

Anyway- if you HAD seen the whole "nut-roots are out of touch with the mainstream" thingy- you would know that the "latte liberal" label that you defend as legit is more of the same...

[MADem]

71. I never post in the lounge. And I haven't seen what you're talking about. NT

[Dr Fate]

72. You never saw DLC Duers characterize the net-roots as elite & out of touch with the mainstream?

Fair enough-it's possible that you have virtually every DLCer & Hillary supporter on ignore, and that you missed 25%-50% of the various threads & posts on any given day-especially before the 2006 midterms.

More recently, the same characterization has been transferred over to Obama supporters in general-to the point where someone started a thread about it- the one you are posting on. I'm glad to update you on this since you missed it.

You seem to have a handle on who you think these "latte liberals" are one way or the other- so you heard about it somewhere.

Guess what- I've never heard of American Idol (whatever that is-a show or something?) So I guess anything is possible. ;)

LOL- Okay- NOW we are done. ;)

[MADem]

73. What I think is you have a bug up your ass re: that topic, and you assume everyone else does, too.

That's your issue.

[Dr Fate]

75. I just get a kick out of making the DLC/Hillary guys play dumb.

I used to to do it with all the "former" Lieberman supporters too-

"Who me- I NEVER favored him over Lamont- Lieberman who?"

"What? DLCers characterized "the far-left nut-roots" and Obama supporters as urban elites?- NEVAH HOID of it!!!"

In the interest of moving on as this sub-thread grows- we'll just have to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you missed a large segment of DU posts & threads.

[XemaSab]

44. Latte liberals are people who actually vote against their economic interests?

I disagree.

I probably benefit from some of the tax cuts, but I think it's in my economic self-interest to have a democrat in office who provides for ALL the people so they don't go breaking into my house and stealing my stuff. :P

[MADem]

60. You are unselfish and you see the big picture and take the long view.

Perhaps I should have said immediate/short term economic interests.

[earth mom]

15. I think it's someone who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk...

Who could care less about the working class or unions that historically have been a big part of the dem party.

They think everyone lives and works as they do-probably in a tech job-and haven't a clue what it's like to work for wages and live paycheck to paycheck.

[LisaM]

16. A paper cup waster!

Seriously, I live in Seattle, and the sheer number of paper cups people go through in my office alone is indecent (for the record, I keep a glass for water, a mug for coffe, and another mug for tea in my office, and that's what I use).

There are paper cups all over town, littering the freeways, filling up the wastebaskets, cluttering the parks. People need to stop and look at how much waste they're generating.

[Lobster Martini]

20. Malbec Liberal!

...and, I am proud to say that I made it myself and pay no Pennsylvania sales tax for my wine...oh hell, the concentrate was taxed. Never mind.

[GOPBasher]

23. I don't drink coffee. Can I still be liberal?

:shrug:

[Dr Fate]

So long as you like wine, or eat sushi at a mall-food court, you are still in.

You cant be a moderate or mainstream unless you order Dominoes pizza after toiling on the farm all day.

[Zynx]

24. Urban/suburban dwelling, college educated, upper income, with a tendency to pontificate

on the world from a liberal perspective. That is the perception at least. They are found in places like the upper east side of Milwaukee, Beacon Hill in Boston, Park Avenue in New York, increasingly Fairfax County in Virginia, etc. The perception is that they have a lot of book knowledge, but know little about the real struggle. Those who use the term derisively maintain the "latte liberals" don't know much about rural America or the poor.

Disclaimer: I do not share this view entirely, but I do know what those who complain about this faction see. I've had long talks with lower income voters who look at liberals as being out of touch and in their own little world. I'm not saying this is right, but I am saying it is a term you should understand.

[Dr Fate]

27. "Book knowledge"- dontcha mean "fancy-pants-book-learnin"?

We have to act dumb like Bush before we gain the respect of the mythological noble savages- wait- no one respects that idiot either. ;)

But seriously- you describe exactly what DLCers and the GOP are trying to project with these class-divisive terms.

[Zynx]

38. Hey, by my own definition I am a "latte liberal" though I don't drink latte.

I've grown up in affluent, white suburbs my whole life, though I've spent plenty of time in cities and rural areas in work and on trips. I'm going to a liberal, elite university. I generally come off as kind of detatched and book-oriented.

[Dr Fate]

40. Shame on you. Put on some over-alls so you can be like the mythological DLC moderate.

I suggest you bone up on your agricultural skills too- the county fair is just 'round the corner.

Internets? Since WHEN do grannies, aunts and uncles look at websites or email????

Better learn your way araound the shootin range as well- WAIT- my bad- real working & middle class people dont go to shooting ranges- they get up and hunt for food before they plow their fields- no fancy-pants target practicing!!!

Put down that thar book and whatever it is you are sipping on-We must earn the trust of the noble savages!!! ;)

[Zynx]

55. I've actually been hunting. Never farmed though, but I did milk a cow on a field trip once.

Haha

[mondo joe]

26. It's a Freeperism now adopted by some on DU as a class-wedge issue.

[Dr Fate]

29. We have a winner! Ahh- the food & drink controversey...

...what other consumer products can we bash those out-of-touch Liberals with?- I know- fancy-pants WORD-BOOKS!

Goes something like this:

"Them smarty pants far-left Libruls with thar sippy coffee and word-books!!!- Not me- Imma MODERATE!! Pass me a diet co-cola!!!"

[roughsatori]

84. DING DING DING, We Have a Winner!

Thank you for being succinct and correct. :thumbsup:

[roughsatori]

85. KICK NT

.

[roughsatori]

86. KICK NT

KICK

[spinbaby]

30. I think I am

Once a week I take my laptop to Panera and have a latte while I browse DU. If that's not latte liberal, I don't know what is.

[devilgrrl]

34. A latte liberal is a moderate Republican

No liberal would ever consume so much lactose.

:silly:

[Dr Fate]

46. Unfortunately- the term is now used at DU by DLCers to attack DEMS, not Repubs.

Be they moderate or otherwise...

Then again, it's not the 1st or last time that the DLC and the GOP uses the same language & tactics.

[lumberjack_jeff]

36. Sam Smith said it best

http://prorev.com/2008/01/john-edwards-hidden-problem.html

If you think that "illegal immigration isn't a real problem. It doesn't depress wages, except perhaps for the uneducated" (found here btw) than you might be a latte liberal.

[otherlander]

89. Does that make me one?

I tend to think that illegal employers are a much bigger problem, and they've very successfully played the working class against itself by diverting American workers' focus to the immigrants instead of the employers. I also think the problem would be greatly decreased if the last Mexican presidential election hadn't been stolen (boxes of ballots were found in a Veracruz dump, all from districts strongly supporting the leftist candidate) and the people of Mexico were not ruled by leaders who turned their country into a place to escape from.

[Burma Jones]

37. A Limousine Liberal that has scaled back.....a lot

[nadinbrzezinski]

I am

In fact, in about ten minutes will go make myself a nice frothy one

(I like the damn things, and quite brutally honest cannot afford to go to the coffee shop... thankfully I have a twenty + year machine that works very well for that... not like the crappy machines you get today)

[nadinbrzezinski]

45. I am

In fact, in about ten minutes will go make myself a nice frothy one

(I like the damn things, and quite brutally honest cannot afford to go to the coffee shop... thankfully I have a twenty + year machine that works very well for that... not like the crappy machines you get today)

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. Now here is some serious answer... after making my latte of course

a coffee drinking liberal is short hand for... wait for it...

Big city, preferably northeast, liberal...

Oh did I mention also college educated and in theory hating them country hicks that cannot appreciate a good coffee or good wine for that matter

[XemaSab]

49. I don't think it's just in the northeast

Seattle, Portland, teh Bay Area, and Southern California are INFESTED. :scared:

[nadinbrzezinski]

54. That is what the short hand stands for in the GOP

it is code...

Some other doozies

Activist Judges= aka those liberal judges that interpret the constition in ways we don't like

An oldie but a goodie

Welfare Queen

And of course the ever so lovely classic, States Rights.

By the way my sun conure is also a latte drinking liberal... not shitting you, she begged for it and got some of the foam... happy conure

:-)

[goodgd_yall]

48. A well-heeled liberal

But it probably implies a lot more to Republicans. Maybe this for instance: a person who expresses concerns about the poor and the discriminated against, but it's all in the abstract, i.e., no real experience with low income and frequents places where only his or her culture and race is present.

[Ikonoklast]

50. You're talking about me.

I've been known to buy a latte now and then, hell I even own a pair of Birkenstocks. I live in suburbia.

I'm a die-hard blue-collar labor liberal.


And I own and drive an eighteen-wheeler, run my own business, can operate a tractor or a combine, and know more about soybeans than I care to admit.

But if you ask me, I'll bend your ear about them for a few hours.

[ileus]

51. one who can afford to own a house, SUV, and still eat...

[TahitiNut]

52. Personally, I prefer a quad mocha vente.

I make my own... but will occasionally treat myself to one of the overpriced ones. (2-3 times/year)

:shrug:

[XemaSab]

56. 3x 10 oz mocha here

Stuff is ROCKET FUEL. :D

[TahitiNut]

59. It's how I "launch" my mornings ... yum!

An oat cereal (Cheerios, oatmeal, etc.) breakfast and a 14oz mocha. Cleans the colon and jump-starts my heart. I never drink anything else that's caffienated - no colas, nothing - and never after 3pm. Don't need it - I'm awake.
:evilgrin:

[Jennicut]

57. Lattes are cheap these days-at least at Dunkin Donuts they are

Such a dumb term. Liberal people are way better than Rethugs, I don't care if they are rich or poor.

[Dr Fate]

66. Exactly- the DLCers need a new term-maybe "Lobster Liberals?"

But you hit the nail on the head- Liberal people are in the tent, be they rich or poor.

The term is one used by the GOP and now the DLC types to marginalize the net-roots and on-line Obama supporters.

[UTUSN]

58. Pie-in-the-sky. Younger-Ivory-Tower. Loser.

[RoadRage]

65. I'm assuming i'm a "latte liberal"...

Which is to say that my husband & I are young (30), live in a nice upscale neighborhood, have a high income (over $150,000) due to our careers, drive decent cars (Honda's - not Porche's), already have a few thousand saved for our kids college funds even though they're not even in kindergarden yet, and who can afford to go on a nice vacation and still save for retierment.

And, I suppose i'm suppose to feel guilty about this because no matter how much we donate to charity or help out those who are less fortunate - it's never enough. Because we're not poor, so we can't possibly understand or be empithetic with the plight of those less fortunate. Because we're on the "Obama" bandwagon because it's "trendy".

Yes.. a "Latte Liberal" tag is suppose to demean those who are democrats, but have savings accounts that represent those of many middle-age republicans. And, because of that we should be ashamed.

Well - i'm not ashamed. I've worked hard for where i'm at. I've earned every dime I have, and actually supported my father before he passed away. I'm also financially in a place that many of my "poorer" friends are striving to be.

So, I guess i'm a latte liberal. Maybe someone should make me a bumper sticker so I can wear it proudly? ;)

[Mountainman]

67. KPFK use to use the term cafe latte liberal talking about people who are politically liberal but

don't put it into action in any way.

[mod mom]

69. Someone who likes a little coffee with their milk and thinks for a living.

[Jed Dilligan]

70. I'm lactose intolerant and coffee gives me reflux

If I drank a latte I'd be one sick liberal.

[Breeze54]

76. " "Liberals" who have nothing better to do than to join fashionable causes."

1. Latte Liberals
30 up, 14 down

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=latte+liberal

"Liberals" who have nothing better to do than to join fashionable causes.

This term derives from liberals who sit around and drink overpriced diluted Starbucks coffee while lamenting the plight of the poor. Latte Liberals have no sense of discretion and usually forget what they're arguing about soon after other latte liberals judge newer causes (polygamy, discrimination against left handers, etc.) to be more worthy.

:eyes:

I must be a Bud Beer liberal. ;) I've never bought or tasted a Latte'.

:toast:

:P

[Breeze54]

77. lmao...look at all the words used to describe "conservative's"

conservative

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=conservative



and more!! :rofl:

[librechik]

78. Latte: What a limousine liberal drinks after an expensive course of rehab

[otherlander]

79. Here's what I think it is

A liberal, usually living in the suburbs, who cares about things like gay marriage and feminism that effect people in their neighborhood/area, but not about things like unions and free trade that effect people with less money, or, if they do care about issues to do with class, think they know what is best for the working class more than people in the working class who are already fighting for change do.

Yeah, they exist. But the RW has taken this fact and perverted it and used it to try to make liberalism look bad, instead of doing what a real liberal/lefty would do, and try to take liberalism back from the people who don't care about / condescend to the working class.

[Breeze54]

81. But, poor liberals do live in the suburbs.

All suburbs aren't filled with rich people.
Many aren't rich or there's some of both and in between.
Unions, war and free trade effect people in the suburbs too.

[otherlander]

83. Ok...

An at-least-semi-rich liberal, usually living in the suburbs.

[Xithras]

80. Definition: A liberal who has never lived the injustices they're trying to change.

There's basically two kinds of liberals.

1) There are those who have lived with injustice. They are the people who have experienced racism first hand. They are the people who work their butts off all day for low wage blue collar jobs, just to find themselves deeper in debt every month. There are those who have lived poor, been homeless, or been bashed because of their sexual orientation. The list goes on, but basically, this kind of liberal promotes change because they want their injustices to end. The injustices impact them directly, and they want a better situation for themselves, their children, and their communities.

2) Latte liberals isn't really a slur (though some might take it as one). A latte liberal is typically a middle to upper-middle class person with a good home, stable income, and a solid education, who came from a family where home, food, and support were also never in any real danger. These liberals stand on the side of liberalism for intellectual reasons, not practical or personal ones. They are the modern bourgeois left, but are often criticized for their willingness to set aside progressive causes for personal or "practical" reasons (try to build affordable housing in Marin County California, and you'll see latte liberals in action). They are liberals out of their desire to help others, instead of fighting against a cause that has impact them personally.

[blindpig]

82. Whole Foods customer n/t

[otherlander]

87. What about Trader Joe's?

Are they better? They cost less...
I go to Trader Joe's about once a month, go to Whole Foods very rarely. The one thing I like better about Whole Foods is that they sell grains/legumes in bulk, but I still don't go there much.

[slackmaster]

88. I admit it, I shop at Trader Joe's and love it

But I never drink lattes. I only drink black coffee made at home from Trader Joe's beans.