Abrams discussing Seigelman

[CatWoman]

on now.

Looks to be good :)

[Ichingcarpenter]

1. I agree, he's been really good on covering this piece

I can't think of anyone else that has taken it to heart
like he has.

[L. Coyote]

10. Horton has been the leading blogger, of course. Plus KO. Here is the VIDEO

ABRAMS: Don Siegelman Ordered Released from Prison on Appeal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x111306

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. if I were karl, the prosecutors, or that wife, I would be shitting very large

bricks. This SHOULD cause the disbarment of several lawyers.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

3. wish I could see it

I haven't watched MSNBC since they moved up to digital channel 12something 2 months ago.

It's not worth fighting with the teenagers to let me watch it on 'their' tv :P

[lonestarnot]

4. Looks to be hellaciously good!

[Coexist]

5. he's all over it.

He told Siegelman's daughter that he'd love to have her father on the show, and to tell him that.

[Prefer]

6. Scantest story ever

there are no details about the case ever presented.

What are the bribery and mail fraud allegations about? Is he guilty or was he set up?

Sounds like someone mailed him a check and he cashed it.

[L. Coyote]

7. Everything you ever wanted to know about Don Siegelman

Political Prisoner Don Siegelman: Will the 60 Minutes Spotlight Make a Difference?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2909551

[SharonAnn]

8. Wasn't Wm. Pitt's father the campaign manager, or something like that

for Siegelman? I seem to remember him (or maybe it was someone else) posting here about the nefarious doings on Election Night when Siegelman went to bed the winner and woke up the loser.

Anybody else remember this?

I just hate that I remember these kinds of things so specifically, but am not sure of the exact details.

[L. Coyote]

9. Not that I recall. I did have a private exchange with Symbolman about this.

Wasn't his campaign manager, Riley Boykin Smith?

Symbolman and his wife were working on a film about Fraudulent elections down there in Alabama. Is this who you are thinking of?
The USAs going after Don were the wife of the campaign manager for Siegelman's opponent Riley & the wife of a Karl Rove assistant.

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symbolman Jun-02-07 - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1023111#1025944

My wife interviewed Siegelman a few years back, when we were working on a film about Fraudulent elections down there in Alabama, and they STOLE that election, it was a bellweather for the rest of the system, and we've got it all on film.

Riley and pals LOCKED down the courthouse (and I've been in there many times), kicked out ALL the Poll workers, media, etc, and then MOVED thousands of votes electronically from Siegelman's column to HIS. Tried to blame it on a lightning strike in one area, only problem is that there weren't 6500 PEOPLE living in that area, and NO OTHER NUMBERS MOVED.

It was and is the MOST OBVIOUS Voting Fraud ever seen, and it's a FACT. Siegelman went to bed as the winner, and woke up as the loser of the election. When he demanded a recount the corrupt fucks down there threw a Catch 22 at him. In order to Prove Fraud he needed to open the Box, but they wouldn't let him Open the Box, unless he could Prove there was FRAUD.

Cute, eh?

Baldwin county is in my opinion THE MOST CORRUPT Legal system in the united states, and I know first hand. Spent a little Time in their county jail, which has been compared to a South African Prison BY CONGRESS. Oddly enough, while my wife was interviewing Siegelman, I was in the SLAMMER, WHILE doing a FILM about Electronic Voting Fraud.

Small world, ain't it?

ROVE'S fingerprints are ALL OVER THIS. I'm willing to give that fat fuck the cell I was in, let HIM lay on a concrete floor for weeks, while insane people shriek, and the guy next door makes little animals out of his own shit and bites the heads off them. (On a lighter note, there's really nothing funnier than seeing a naked man with a turd in his hand scare the SHIT out of six heavily armed Alabama cops :) )

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demobabe - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1023111#1026347
11. Yeah, the vote difference was blamed on a lightning strike...

...on a machine in Magnolia Springs, Alabama. Around 3,000 votes shifted from Siegelman to Riley. Few really odd things here:

1. The machine in question carried about 1,000 votes. Even if ALL 1,000 votes switched from Siegelman to Riley, you still don't have the number of votes for Riley to have won. Doesn't add up.

2. The totals on EVERY SINGLE other race in that election did not change. There was a ZERO difference. If there was a problem with one machine, this would cause the vote totals in ALL races to change. Lightning bolts don't target only one person.

3. The nature of the problem wasn't consistent with a power surge. Lightning bolts would not cause data to be manipulated. Destroyed an unusable is one possibility but not selective data corruption (once again, every race would be affected, not just Don Siegelman).

[terrell9584]

11. yeah, it was stolen

but we also lost it because Riley was a Southern Baptist, and his backers made no small point of pointing it out on the trail. James may have sucked up to them, but in the end, he was an Episcopalian, and Baptists in this state have had a thing about supporting their own. The contrast between Riley and Siegelman hurt us in places where we should have been stronger.

Just look at who they run statewide, I think they've figured this out....but I think in the end this will be where they've overreached. Quite frankly, if people in the state ever get the belief that the GOP is just the political arm of the Southern Baptist church in the state then that is the deal knell of the party.

The presidential primary was good because no one voted how they normally do. People who had never declared as Republican before declared for that primary, they will declare as Democrats in June to vote for local races, obviously. But, the thing is, Huckabee's vote totals, pretty much trail the proportion of the white population in whatever county you are in that are Southern Baptist or Evangelical, and last time I saw, he didn't get 50%. There is a way for us to use this, cause right now we still raise more money as a party overall, if just because we still control both houses and the county courthouses.

[DemoTex]

13. Riley Boykin Smith is the grandson of Frank Boykin (D-Al).

Frank Boykin was the 28-year (1935-1963) Democratic congressman from Alabama's 1st Congressional District (Mobile and surrounds). Frank Boykin was a caricature of the quintessential southern member of Congress, and the most oft used modifiers before his name were powerful and colorful.
Boykin was the state's only congressman not returned to office in the 1962 at-large election. In 1964, Boykin's former (and empty) 1st District seat was won by Republican Jack Edwards, who would become a protege of Dick Cheney. Edward's election to office was driven by the 1964 Voting Rights Act and his own antipathy toward forced busing.

[trof]

12. Redding Pitt was chairman of AL Democratic party

A few years ago.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Redding_Pitt