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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:36 PM
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Why Republicans Should Be Scared of Don Siegelman
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Why Republicans Should Be Scared of Don Siegelman

Posted by Steven Reynolds, The All Spin Zone at 9:31 AM on March 28, 2008.

He can prove that the GOP prosecuted with little basis in fact, and that the prosecution was politically motivated.



Donald Siegelman has been freed from jail. As many know, Siegelman was Governor of Alabama and was prosecuted for giving a position on a Board in the state to a major contributor, Richard Scrushy. I suppose if we were doing a tit for tat thing, that would mean every major contributor President Bush appointed to Ambassadorships is up for investigation, but that’s not how the US DOJ was working under President Bush and Alberto Gonzales. Nope, they prosecuted only Democrats for that sort of thing, even when Senior preosecutors in their office counseled otherwise. Scott Horton in Harpers, over a year ago, noted, basically, that miscarriage of justice should be seen as obstruction of justice on the part of the Bush appointed US Attorneys.

A couple of interesting things here. First, Siegelman would not be released unless there were a strong possiblity his appeal would go through. From the Birmingham News:

The judges wrote that Siegelman met both requirements for an appeal bond: He is not a flight risk and his appeal raises a substantial question of law or fact likely to result in reversal or an order for a new trial.

“After thorough review of this complex and protracted record, we conclude Siegelman has satisfied the criteria set out in the statute, and has specifically met his burden of showing that his appeal raises substantial questions of law or fact,” the judges wrote.


It’s going to be overturned, and we should have an investigation, a real one, into the role of the Bush Administration, Karl Rove in particular, in the prosecution here. I’m guessing the motive behind this selective prosecution was that the GOP felt threatened in their electoral bastion, the deep south. Be that as it may, the GOP claims they had not political role here, that Siegelman was prosecuted on the merits. Then why the heck do they have to act as if this is so godalmighty important to them, to the extent that they’re protesting the judge’s order? They’re protesting a whole whale of a lot for folks who claim they had no interest in the case. From WSFA in Alabama:

The Alabama Republican Party is disappointed in today’s ruling by the 11th Circuit Court and their decision to release former Governor Don Siegelman pending his appeal of the 6 counts of bribery and the 1 count of obstruction for which he was convicted.

Representative Mike Hubbard (R-Auburn), Chairman of the Alabama Republican Party stated “the former Governor’s release pending appeal does not change the conviction by a jury of his peers. It would be premature to turn this development into anything other than a formality.”


Hey, the smart move here, in a case where the GOP claims no political involvement, is to make no comment period. Nobody claimed the GOP in Alabama is smart. Notice, Mr. Hubbard, Karl Rove is sitting there with his mouth zipped, hoping to hell that no emails surface that show his involvement. You should do the same, Mr. Hubbard.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/80633/


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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:41 PM
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1. ...and...
...he's pissed!
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:42 PM
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2. That's why they went after him...
all Democratic governors who aren't part of the Neo Con agenda are under attack.
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:49 PM
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7. and also why they imprisoned and muzzled him
the crime was the illegal prosecution, which was an abuse of justice. The cover-up was keeping him locked in jail and that was the straw that broke the camel's back
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:51 PM
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9. READ this: Gov. Don Siegelman, the Roughly $3.6 Billion, ExxonMobil, and Pissing Off BIG OIL.

GRRREEAATT NEWS!!! Don Siegelman is being released from prison, albeit only on appeal.

This, of course, means he cannot be kept from the press! What are the implications?
Is it time to dig deeper into the Siegelman political prisoner saga? How did it start?

There is a story little told, from before the 2006 prosecution,
before the illegal campaign contributions to Riley from Abramoff and his felonious pals,
before the 2002 AL election theft stole victory from Dems in the middle of the night.

Siegelman's administration sued BIG OIL. ExxonMobil committed fraud and underpaid Alabama
in a contract for natural gas pumped from Mobile Bay. Alabama won that litigation, and a
jury awarded the state a judgment against ExxonMobil of roughly $3.6 billion. Not chump change!

Is that where it starts? This incident is certainly a BIG possible!
Or was this gambling corruption? Or just felonious politics?
How about defense contractors corrupting politics? Possible.
Or, it it another case of "ALL OF THE ABOVE"? Your opinions?

==================
Please REC: Gov. Don Siegelman, the Roughly $3.6 Billion, ExxonMobil, and Pissing Off BIG OIL.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3070446
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM
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3. Ain't it great how republicans
get all uppity about law and order when it doesn't involve one of their own. C'mon Mr Siegleman kick some ass.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:49 PM
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8. I think that Governor Don is going to do some ass kicking,
I just got that feeling...
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:45 PM
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4. I just hope that he is less guilty then Spitzer is
It would be cool to see him vindicated
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:51 PM
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10. There is very little similarity between the two cases...
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:44 AM
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14. I pray that Sigelman is clean, and Rove needs a pardon
chIMPEACH already!
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:47 PM
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5. This opens the Rove connections, the Justice Department firings
and a whole can of worms for the Repuglicans that will hopefully feast on
the dying corpse of the their party displaying the gangrene of their fascism

MUST SEE TV, WAXMAN'S HEARING- I can't wait.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 12:48 PM
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6. I think Conyers gets him first....
n/t

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 01:46 PM
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11. kick
:kick:
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:49 PM
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12. can't they just toss him back in jail upon the 'discovery of new disturbing allegations'?
and prevent him from speaking to anyone?
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terrell9584 Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:08 PM
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13. Alabama may be a GOP bastion in presidential politics
Far from it in statewide politics, far from it. Democrats maintain a 62% representation in the legislature. Only Southern states with higher combined percentages are Arkansas and West Virginia.

Democrats 75% of local offices in the state. In the races that recieved statewide coverage. There has still never been a Republican Ag & Industries Commissioner, we have only had one Republican Lt. Governor post reconstruction, we actually won the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court back, first time in 12 years, and if there had been more money to throw around we could have picked a few more off. Would have taken back the AG's office if our nominee had been more well known in North Alabama. We will probably hold Cramer's seat (it would be complete ineptness not to, most of the Goat Hill elite live in that district and I'm sure more than a few would love to take the skills they learned in Montgomery to Washington) and we have a real chance with Bobby Bright.

Not to mention that we will be redistricting after 2010


This state is alot of things, GOP bastion is not one of them.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 03:31 PM
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15. ***** Welcome Home Gov. Don Siegelman ***** Official SHOUT OUT Support Thread *****
***** Welcome Home Gov. Don Siegelman ***** Official SHOUT OUT Support Thread *****
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