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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:34 PM
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If you had only ONE book to recommend on the Vietnam war, which one would it be?
I am starting a summer reading list and am looking for the best histories of the Vietnam war.
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Sheets of Easter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:36 PM
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1. "Dear America:Letters Home from Vietnam."
Real letters written by the people who were there. I read it for a college course. Excellent read.

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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:36 PM
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2. Dispatches
Michael Herr.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:37 PM
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3. You need to specify if you want history or first-person accounts. nt
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:38 PM
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5. right, just what I was thinking
n/t
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:53 PM
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16. That's a good question
I was looking for an overall history but first person accounts are always helpful
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Dunedain Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 04:01 PM
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30. Everything We Had - Al Santoli
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 04:01 PM
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31. Historian Douglas Brinkley combined the two, the history WITH the first
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 04:04 PM by blm
person accounts of Kerry, his letters home which were saved by his mother, close friends, and girlfriend/wife - and includes the accounts of his crew members.

Brinkley remarked at the time he had no idea he'd get such an enormous amount of preserved material.

Tour of Duty - but probably better to read it AFTER you know the basic history so you can put their experiences in context.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:21 AM
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39. Thank you. This thread has become very educational
I appreciate everyone's time and suggestions.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:38 PM
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4. A Bright Shining Lie: John Paul Vann and America in Vietnam
By Neil Sheehan


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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:00 PM
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21. I"ve been meaning to read that one. thanks for reminding me. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:39 PM
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6. One I've wanted to read is the one Senator Webb wrote; supposedly used
as a teaching manual iirc.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Webb

Webb's successful first novel, Fields of Fire (1978), drawn from personal experience, tells the story of a platoon of US Marines in late 1960s Vietnam. Reviewers hailed its pull-no-punches descriptions of infantry life and combat.<46>
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:41 PM
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7. Street Without Joy by Bernard Fall
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 02:41 PM by arbusto_baboso
Okay, yes, it's about the FRENCH involvement in Vietnam, but it was written and published when the US was getting mired there.

It also CLEARLY can be used to draw parallels between Vietnam and Iraq currently.

Hmmmm. Maybe that's why France wasn't on board with the current US adventure in Iraq? Did they learn the lesson and we did not? :shrug:
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:51 PM
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15. This looks interesting
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:55 PM
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19. It was also required reading...
when I was in US Army Special Forces in the late 80's and early 90's. A lot of tactical stuff, but still a good read.
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maui9002 Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:37 PM
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26. "The Best and the Brightest" by David Halberstam
I've read most all of the books already mentioned. "A Bright Shining Lie" is in my view a better story and more interesting read (mostly because it focuses on the main character, John Paul Vann, who was a unique soldier and interesting character), but I believe the best history of the tragic conflict, and how and why we screwed up in Vietnam, is David Halberstam's "The Best and the Brightest." And an interesting and ironic note. In Amazon.com's description of the book, it excerpts the followig forward in the book, from none other than John McCain. If only he'd learn the lessons Halberstam put in that book.

"For anyone who aspires to a position of national leadership, no matter the circumstances of his or her birth, this book should be mandatory reading. And anyone who feels a need, as a confused former prisoner of war once felt the need, for insights into how a great and good nation can lose a war and see its worthy purposes and principles destroyed by self-delusion can do no better than to read and reread David Halberstam’s The Best and the Brightest."
--from the Foreword by Senator John McCain


Honorable Mention: "Our Vietnam" by A.J. Langguth.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:18 PM
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37. Thanks
It seems I have a lot of reading to do
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:41 PM
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8. "A Bright Shining Lie"
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:49 PM
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12. Seconded
Although a close second would be Halberstam's The Best and the Brightest.

It just depends on whether or not the OP wants to know what happened in Vietnam or they want to know about the US government's decisions in Vietnam
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:45 PM
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9. "Fire in the Lake" by Frances Fitzgerald
was written and published during the whole misadventure. It gives a comprehensive history of the region and many of the series of blunders that led us into that disaster.

It's important enough to understanding the whole mess that it's still in print: http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Lake-Vietnamese-Americans-Vietnam/dp/0679723943
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:50 PM
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14. Second this, as a contemporary history of the region, culture, and conflict. . .
as a first person take, Dispatches by Michael Herr, or Everything We Had by Al Santoli -- the former a journalist's take on his experiences, the latter a collection of reminisces by grunts of all grades.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:48 PM
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38. Excellent book - I'd recommend that one, too.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:48 PM
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10. Several good ones already listed. Here's a great . .
. . novel that produces a form of truth about such things that only good fiction can deliver.

"The Things They Carried" by Tim O'Brien

BTW - I have a very large collection of non-fiction first-person accounts of that war - almost all in paperback - in case anyone else here is in to collecting / trading, etc.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:49 PM
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11. Recovering from the War: A Guide for All Veterans, Family Members, Friends and Therapists
Helped us. Highly reccomended.
Talking to some vets is a good idea.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1892220075
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:50 PM
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The 10,000 Day War: Vietnam by Michael MacLear
n/t
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:45 PM
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29. Agreed. I have a copy and it is an excellent, detailed book. n/t
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:50 PM
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13. self delete
Edited on Fri Mar-28-08 02:51 PM by jpak
n/t
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:54 PM
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17. The End Of The Line
The End of the Line - the Siege of Khe Sanh
by Robert Pisor

"A war correspondent's searching account of a crucial battle in the Vietnam War. It was the most spectacular battle of the entire war. For 6,000 trapped marines, it was a nightmare; for President Lyndon Johnson, an obsession. For General Westmoreland, it was to be the final vindication of technological weaponry; and for General Giap, the architect of the French defeat at Dien Bien Phu, it was a spectacular ruse masking troops moving south for the Tet offensive. In a compelling narrative, Robert Pisor sets forth the history, the politics, the strategies, and, above all, the desperate reality of the battle that became the turning point of the United States's involvement in Vietnam."

- from Newsweek

http://books.google.com/books?id=G35yog6wKv0C&dq=pisor+siege+of+khe+sanh&pg=PP1&ots=fTp8kF8SAJ&sig=f6XoxDmbK9k7RGZZUEBmw05yeJA&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=pisor++Siege+of+Khe+Sanh&btnG=Search&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:55 PM
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18. Heres one from one of our local teachers
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1316/is_n9_v21/ai_8017733


I have to admit I haven't read the book but thought I would post a link

What Should We Tell Our Children About Vietnam? - Bill McCloud

Washington Monthly, Oct, 1989 by Michael Massing

E-mail Print Link What Should We Tell Our Children About Vietnam In February 1987, Bill McCloud, a junior-high-school teacher in Pryor, Oklahoma, decided that the time had come to teach students about Vietnam. McCloud, a veteran of the war, found few teaching aids, so he wrote to a variety of people connected with the conflict--cabinet officers, generals, pilots, and protestors--asking what they thought was most important to teach about the war. More than 120 people wrote back, including George Bush, Dean Rusk, Henry Kissinger, McGeorge Bundy, and even the notoriously uncommunicative Robert McNamara. Now, with this slim volume, we, like Oklahoma's students, have the benefit of their collective wisdom.

Most Popular

More » Alas, What Should We Tell Our Children About Vietnam? contains few revelations. Vietnam was so complex that even 800-page tomes have not been able to do it justice. Most of the letters in this volume come to no more than a few paragraphs and some only a few sentences. The book consequently reads like a collection of soundbites, or the history of Vietnam according to USA Today. Cliches abound. "Many precious American lives were lost," declares Jimmy Carter. "War is a terrible thing," announces Shelby Stanton, a Vietnam vet and military historian. Harry McPherson, special assistant to Lyndon Johnson, rues our "lack of a clear objective."
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 02:57 PM
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20. War in the Shadows, Robert Asprey n/t
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cornfedyank Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:05 PM
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22. "about face" by col david hackworth
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deminatl Donating Member (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:11 PM
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23. If I Die in a Combat Zone, Box Me Up and Ship Me Home
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:13 PM
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24. An important novel "In Country" -- Bobbie Ann Mason. n/t
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GP6971 Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:24 PM
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25. The Perfect War by James Gibson e/m
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:38 PM
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27. The Pentagon Papers: The Defense Department History of United States Decisionmaking on Vietnam

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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 04:57 AM
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40. Which version?
I read the 500 pages of "excerpts" that the NY Times put out in paperback but I've never sought out the other 19,500 pages. Should I?
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floridablue Donating Member (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 03:42 PM
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28. A Bright Shining Lie.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 04:55 PM
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32. Hands down, it would be Neil Sheehan's book "A Bright Shining Lie." NT
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 04:57 PM
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33. One book? Shiiiiiiit....
go big and read 2 or 3. Skimp on cholesterol and drugs, but not books.

Lots of the above are great.

I'll add "The Short-Timers" by Gus Hasford about his time as a Marine in the shit.

"Full Metal Jacket" was based on it, and a lot of the dialog in the movie comes directly from the book.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 04:58 PM
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34. "Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers."
Daniel Ellsberg
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:02 PM
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35. The Tunnels of Cu Chi
by Tom Mangold and John Penycate
http://www.amazon.com/Tunnels-Cu-Chi-Tom-Mangold/dp/0425089517

This book demonstrates why a US victory in Vietnam was impossible. The Vietnamese guerilla fighters were willing to go on for 1,000 years if necessary.

Some images and background:
http://web.mst.edu/~rogersda/umrcourses/ge342/Cu%20Chi%20Tunnels-revised.pdf
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-28-08 05:18 PM
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36. A Bright Shining Lie
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 06:11 AM
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41. "Bloods: Black Veterans of the Vietnam War: An Oral History," edited by Wallace Terry...
It's as raw as an exposed nerve. An oral history that tells the stories of 20 black men (in their own words, of course) -- how they were sent to Vietnam in disproportionate numbers, and asked to tolerate the intolerable. Each voice is clear, distinct and harrowing.

"Bloods" is an outstanding source that helps to put the hell that was Vietnam into some sharper historical, cultural and political perspectives.

I cannot recommend this book highly enough. :thumbsup:
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