BATTLESTAR GALACTICA QUESTION?

[stratomagi]

Does John McCain remind you of Colonel Saul Tigh from the new series...i'm thinking the parallels are downright eerie, especially if you factor in he was a POW in the 3rd season.

[Warren DeMontague]

1. Yes.

With the Chimpster's alcohol problem thrown in.

[chknltl]

2. Not as much as lieberman/Palpatine n/t

[stratomagi]

9. I can almost picture bolts of lightning coming out of Lieberman's hands

[Rabrrrrrr]

3. No, not really. I think Tigh is a more complex and pained person,

a real old-school kind of guy trying to find his way through the pain and sadness into a new world that he doesn't really understand.

Have you watched all of Season 3? I won't spoil anything, but there are some other moments of learning through the series that make him not like McCain.

[Peace Patriot]

5. I agree. Tigh is a much more complex and ultimately simpatico character than

Bush junta-climbing McCain. Tigh repeatedly and sincerely states he never wanted command, never wanted power, and is thrown into situations time and again in which his poor opinion of himself--and of course his alcoholism--are factors in events. The basic situation of Battlestar Galactic--that these are the last 50,000 or so human beings--means that everyone is faced with unusual demands upon their character and skills. The last standing living of the president's cabinet--after the Cylon attack--for instance, is the Secretary of Education, who is sworn in as president, and rises to the task. And poor Tigh is a used up, alcoholic, old military man, whose chief virtue is his utter loyalty to Commander Obama, the person who saved his life and brought him back into the military. His set-to's with the rebellious pilot Starbuck (a really remarkable character) show him to be ever on the edge of self-knowledge, but always falling back on previous coping methods (lying to himself, drinking). She call him on his shit, and you can tell that he knows that she's a truth-teller--but then he retreats, and tries to buck himself up.

McCain is just nakedly ambitious for power. I don't see a comparison to Col. Tigh. McCain is more of a Cylon, actually.

[Withywindle]

13. BEST FREUDIAN TYPO EVER!

whose chief virtue is his utter loyalty to Commander Obama,


:spray:


Excellent analysis, though. Spot-on.

[stratomagi]

16. LOL!

:rofl:

[stratomagi]

6. Yeah, I have all the seasons...

You're right, well maybe Tigh is the way McCain should be...introspective when he screws up. Too bad the real life McCain is such a disappointment.

[Rabrrrrrr]

10. I didn't ask if you HAVE all the seasons, I asked if you've watched all of Season 3.

[stratomagi]

12. Yeah though it was last year

and I probably watched the whole season in 2 sittings so I may have forgotten a few things.

[Rabrrrrrr]

14. So you remember the last episode's revelation about Tigh?

[stratomagi]

15. Really don't think you could forget that...

or that Bob Dylan has been alive for thousands of years and is a cylon musician. :)

[Rabrrrrrr]

17. Oh, good, then I won't spoil anything when I say

that is definitely one major way in which Tigh is not like McCain.

Although McCain was alive when All Along the Watchtower was written. :-)


I... oh, my God, I had just the thought - what if Tigh is a McCain ghola? What if humanity, before it got to the level of Battlestar Galactica, went through the tens of thousands of years long period that's chronicled in Dune?

Wouldn't that be a kicker.

Battlestar Galactica as post-Dune human narrative...

:rofl:

[NC_Nurse]

4. His lack of judgment sure fits....

...remember how he wanted to airlock "collaborators". He also declared martial law too.

[stratomagi]

7. Yeah and they almost killed Gaeta

[The Straight Story]

8. The answer is....

42

[NC_Nurse]

18. No, silly, that's the Hitchhiker's Guide....not BSG!

BSG takes itself much more seriously! :D

My son calls it Emo-Star Trek. Just to bug his step-dad of course!

[BulletproofLandshark]

11. The physical resemblance is uncanny:

[Blue State Bandit]

19. With the addict wife that can't be trusted w/ Nat Sec secrets!

She sold out the rebels and almost blew the whole rescue opp on New Caprica.