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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:21 AM
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the new plan would give major new powers to the Federal Reserve
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0eV_qZefmRQD8VMT37O0

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Bush administration is proposing a sweeping overhaul of the way the nation's financial industry is regulated. In an effort to deal with the problems highlighted by the current severe credit crisis, the new plan would give major new powers to the Federal Reserve, according to a 22-page executive summary obtained Friday by The Associated Press
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:24 AM
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1. Oh, Fock, ANOTHER one?
Every time Boosh gets his grubby little hands on any program, policy or idea it winds up turning to shit.

I don't know how he could fuck up the country's finances any more than he already has, but I'll bet we find out real soon now.

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indypaul Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:29 PM
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25. It's really a very simple process
privatize gains and socialize losses. Check out
the Texas Rangers stadium deal and sale of the team.
George and his cohorts learned well and now he can
practice this game on a national scale.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:27 AM
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40. Which if the only reason for him being placed in the Oval Office. To do exactly that.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:29 AM
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41. poor georgie
he still thinks he got there on his own merit?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:45 PM
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30. Oh geeze. I just can't fucking wait....
:puke: fucking "moran."
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:25 AM
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2. Major Rape of out Government by Private Banks as reported by the AP link
This is not bullshit folks, WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:26 AM
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3. This is just something
When are people going to wake up?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:27 AM
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4. they haven't fucked things up enough as it is?
the super rich need to be more rich?

we need to eliminate the rich and take back the wealth of this country.
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:27 AM
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5. Chit, Why Aren't The Candidates And Congress Talking About
and trying to stop * from totally screwing up whatever is left of the economy?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:39 PM
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28. Congress is generally the last institution I want dicking around with the Fed.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:33 AM
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6. In the short term, Paulson's plan proposes:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fi-treasury29mar29,1,7811806.story

In the short term, Paulson's plan proposes:

* Creating a Mortgage Originations Commission that would oversee the home-loan industry, making sure that state-level licensing conformed with a set of new federal minimum standards.

* Consideration of what kind of regulation should be put in place for investment banks that wish to borrow directly from the Federal Reserve.

Paulson has said previously that, although the Fed this month agreed to make loans to securities firms on a temporary, emergency basis, those institutions would have to be more heavily regulated if they wanted permanent access to Fed lending.

In the medium term, Paulson proposes:

* Eliminating the distinction between thrifts and banks under federal law.

* Bringing all state-chartered banks under federal supervision, either through the Federal Reserve or the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.

* Federal oversight of insurance companies.

* Integrating oversight of the futures and securities markets by combining the Securities and Exchange Commission with the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:39 AM
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12. This is the Repukes working for smaller Government?
I am confused. :wtf:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:38 PM
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27. I don't actually have very much of a problem with most of this.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:33 AM
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7. This is a major news break
YOU idiots talking about little shit DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS DONE ON FRIDAY late at night.
This is major crap!!!!!
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:34 AM
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8. They can PROPOSE all they want
It's up to US (and the Senators and Reps we scream at) to prevent them getting it.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:36 AM
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9. How's that been working for us lately?
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:06 AM
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16. Not well at all
I'm trying to be optimistic here SLAD. I'm having the kind of night where the darkness is threatening to creep right on in if I let it.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:39 AM
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11. Like they listen to them?

It is not a proposal that gets passed by congress although it should

Your argument for stopping it is crap
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:36 AM
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10. For God's sake...these miserable failures of humanity just
don't quit.

EVERYTHING this administration has done has been a complete screw up. If they told me the sky was blue, I'd go out and look!

The only thing acceptable from this administration is a complete resignation!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:29 AM
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42. A screw up for us but not for bu$h's base, the HAVES AND HAVE MORES.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 01:53 AM
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13. I'm sorry but This IS MAJOR FRICKING NEWS
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY IT IS?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:01 AM
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14. Doesn't it have to be it's being reported after midnight on a Friday night!!
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 02:03 AM by seemslikeadream
Pleae let me know your feelings on this, I know it must BIG news but please explain
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:22 AM
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17. Major!!!
It gets down to the foundations of what even
started the Federal Reserve and the Constitutional
Powers that founding fathers set out in that document
on their understanding.

It is late, but see the where I posted tonight
and who wrote what...... The $100 billion they
gave to not only the banks today, but to investment firms on LBNs is a start.

Even I, did not realize how important this news is.

Then they are writing a law by presidential order to say this right
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:26 AM
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18. What is that quote: Let me print a country's money and I care not who makes its laws?
Somebody help me out here. I can't remember the quote or who said it but it seems to fit here.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:18 AM
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22. Mayer Amschel Bauer, who founded the Rothschild family
:hi:
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 11:43 AM
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24. Was it the right quote?

?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:34 PM
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26. You inspired me
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 12:38 PM by seemslikeadream

Let me print a country's money and I care not who makes its laws

Mayer Amschel Bauer, founder of the Rothschild family

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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 03:55 AM
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38. Some bumper sticker
Would need some explaining to the drivers behind you.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 11:25 AM
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39. Yea since they're still driving their hummers and
living in a house that they thought they owned
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 01:14 PM
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43. No kidding
I think this thread and others like it need to be read
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:06 AM
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44. Yeah, the drivers behind you might get in an accident while trying to figure it out. (eom)
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:02 AM
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15. I guess
when Bush told us the economy was great and there was nothing to worry about, he was lying!
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:29 AM
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19. More info...
Bush to pitch plan for Fed
By MARTIN CRUTSINGER
AP Economics Writer

Mike Derer
President Bush waves as he boards Air Force One at McGuire Air Force in New Jersey Friday, March 28, 2008. Bush was leaving after visiting Novadebt Consumer Credit Counseling service in Freehold, N.J.The Bush administration is proposing a sweeping overhaul of the way the government regulates the nation's financial services industry from banks and securities firms to mortgage brokers and insurance companies.

The plan would give major new powers to the Federal Reserve, according to a 22-page executive summary obtained by The Associated Press.

The Fed would be given broad authority to oversee financial market stability. That would include new powers to examine the books of any institution deemed to represent a potential threat to the proper functioning of the overall financial system.

The proposal, which will be outlined Monday in a speech by Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, is certain to set off heated debates within different sectors of the financial services industry and in Congress, where some Democrats are likely to complain that the proposal does not go far enough to crack down on abuses.

The administration divided its recommendations into short-term goals that could be adopted quickly, intermediate recommendations and an "optimal" regulatory framework, which contains a radical restructuring of how the government supervises banks and other financial institutions.

http://www.kansascity.com/449/story/551406.html

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 05:15 AM
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20. Gee...new powers to examine the books of any institution deemed to represent a potential threat
to the proper functioning of the overall financial system.

A little LATE for ENRON....but it might come in handy to fuck with folks you don't like....
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:13 AM
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21. Thanks Hannah Bell
:hi:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:20 AM
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23. This is how the Fed was created in the first place. In 1907 rumors were spread that certain banks
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 09:28 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
were insolvent. This was called the Panic of 1907. In Zeitgeist the Movie they claim that JP Morgan spread those rumors. JP Morgan, rings a bell?

A thread I recently started in the 9/11 dungeon

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=198129&mesg_id=198129


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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 12:44 PM
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29. yikes! K&R.
more coffin nails, I suppose..
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 02:01 PM
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31. New plan - give investment banks as much free money as they want while turning the dollar to Charmin
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 02:01 PM by hatrack
And the rest of us can go fuck ourselves and watch the Tee-Vee we don't own, or amuse ourselves on our cell phones.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:01 PM
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32. Ladies and Gentleman, we are witnessing
the greatest transfer of wealth from the public coffers to the "elite" ever seen in the history of mankind.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:03 PM
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33. They're doing it right in front of our noses
Edited on Sat Mar-29-08 08:06 PM by seemslikeadream

Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws.

Mayer Amschel Bauer, founder of the Rothschild family

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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:15 PM
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34. I'm afraid I'm too ignorant to add much to this discussion
But so far none of the backers I've seen mentioned are giving me any confidence in this proposal:

Still, at least one Democratic leader expressed support for the administration's goals, if not necessarily its specific proposals.

"In broad outlines, we agree with large parts of Secretary Paulson's plan," said Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.)
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:16 PM
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35. By 2006 that figure had mushroomed to over $500 trillion.
http://www.counterpunch.org/whitney03292008.html

It is worth noting that derivatives contracts are a fairly recent addition to US financial markets. In 2000, derivatives trading accounted for less than $1 trillion. By 2006 that figure had mushroomed to over $500 trillion. And it all can be traced back to legislation that was passed during the Clinton administration.

"A milestone in the deregulation effort came in the fall of 2000, when a lame-duck session of Congress passed a little-noticed piece of legislation called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. The bill effectively kept much of the market for derivatives and other exotic instruments off-limits to agencies that regulate more conventional assets like stocks, bonds and futures contracts.
Supported by Phil Gramm, then a Republican senator from Texas and chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, the legislation was a 262-page amendment to a far larger appropriations bill. It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton that December." ("What Created this Monster" Nelson Schwartz, New York Times)

The Fed chief is now facing a number of brushfires that will have to be put out immediately. The first of these is short term lending rates, which have stubbornly ignored Bernanke's massive liquidity injections and continued to rise. The banks are increasingly afraid to lend to each other because they don't really know how much exposure the other banks have to risky MBS. This distrust has sent interbank lending rates soaring above the Fed funds rate to more than double in the past month alone. So far, the Fed's Term Auction Facility (TAF; under the Term Auction Facility (TAF), the Federal Reserve will auction term funds to depository institutions) hasn't helped to lower rates, which means that Bernanke will have to take more extreme measures to rev up bank lending again. That's why many Fed-watchers believe that Bernanke will ultimately coordinate a $500 billion to $1 trillion taxpayer-funded bailout to buy up all the MBSs from the banks so they can resume normal operations. Of course, any Fed-generated scheme will have to be dolled up with populous rhetoric so that welfare for banking tycoons looks like a selfless act of compassion for struggling homeowners. That shouldn't be a problem for the Bush public relations team.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 08:30 PM
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36. Took my kid's measley little wad out of the bank and put it into the credit union.
Like that will do him any good.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-29-08 09:08 PM
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37. K&R n/t
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 04:03 AM
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45. Great idea... get the burglar to install and run the new security system...
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:28 AM
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46. The Federal Reserve is the biggest scam ever foisted upon
Amerika. Now their Coup will be complete.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 01:20 PM
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48. Exactly. n/t
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 05:34 AM
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47. Today is a good time to contact the Senate Banking Committee
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 05:34 AM by annabanana
http://banking.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Information.Membership

"The Fed" is not a government entity. It is private. The Treasury Deptartment is NOT AUTHORIZED to turn billions of dollars over to them. That is the job of CONGRESS.


lots of info here:
http://www.tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?post=37808&page=2
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