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ralbertson Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:18 PM
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"Waist deep in the Big Muddy"
Edited on Sun Mar-30-08 05:31 PM by ralbertson


Vietnam isn't Iraq. But the two countries have a lot in common, even though Vietnam is mostly wet and Iraq is mostly dry. And the Mississippi River isn't the Mekong River, though Pete Seeger called them both "the Big Muddy" back in the day. The Mississippi River isn't the Euphrates River either, though if you ask the residents of New Orleans they'll tell you that the Bush administration has totally, arrogantly, callously failed to protect the lives and freedoms of the people who live along the banks of both. (The Hudson River isn't the Mekong either, though a good case can be made for Pete Seeger having had a lot to do with inspiring people to insist on cleaning up the messes along the banks of both of them.)

So, in another 40-year-flashback -- in this case, a 41-year-flashback -- here are the lyrics to a seminal, controversial song that one of the archetypical icons of American folk music wrote with the Mekong in mind, a song that resonates with today's realities far more closely than it ever should have had to...

Waist Deep in the Big Muddy
by Pete Seeger


It was back in nineteen forty-two,
I was a member of a good platoon.
We were on maneuvers in-a Loozianna,
One night by the light of the moon.
The captain told us to ford a river,
That's how it all begun.
We were -- knee deep in the Big Muddy,
But the big fool said to push on.

The Sergeant said, "Sir, are you sure,
This is the best way back to the base?"
"Sergeant, go on! I forded this river
'Bout a mile above this place.
It'll be a little soggy but just keep slogging.
We'll soon be on dry ground."
We were -- waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool said to push on.

The Sergeant said, "Sir, with all this equipment
No man will be able to swim."
"Sergeant, don't be a Nervous Nellie,"
The Captain said to him.
"All we need is a little determination;
Men, follow me, I'll lead on."
We were -- neck deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool said to push on.

All at once, the moon clouded over,
We heard a gurgling cry.
A few seconds later, the captain's helmet
Was all that floated by.
The Sergeant said, "Turn around men!
I'm in charge from now on."
And we just made it out of the Big Muddy
With the captain dead and gone.

We stripped and dived and found his body
Stuck in the old quicksand.
I guess he didn't know that the water was deeper
Than the place he'd once before been.
Another stream had joined the Big Muddy
'Bout a half mile from where we'd gone.
We were lucky to escape from the Big Muddy
When the big fool said to push on.

Well, I'm not going to point any moral;
I'll leave that for yourself
Maybe you're still walking, you're still talking
You'd like to keep your health.
But every time I read the papers
That old feeling comes on;
We're -- waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.

Waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.
Waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on.
Waist deep! Neck deep!
Soon even a tall man'll be over his head!
We're -- waist deep in the Big Muddy!
And the big fool says to push on!



Pete Seeger knew the truth, and he sang the truth, and he spoke the truth to power for generations of Americans. And the truths that he has always sung and spoke about still resonate for all of us today:

If you value your freedoms, you have to work to keep them free for all.

If you love your country, you have to work to make it stay true to what you believe in.

And if you support the troops -- you have to work to bring them home *now*.


(Note: this OP is a follow-up to 6 years in, a 40-year flashback)

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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:22 PM
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1. I like this one more ralbertson
The Big Muddy - Bruce Springsteen

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Billy had a mistress down on A and 12th

She was that little somethin' that he did for himself
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His own little secret didn't hurt nobody
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Come the afternoon he'd take her wadin'

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Waist deep in the big muddy

Waist deep in the big muddy
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You start out standing but end up crawlin' sonny


Got in some trouble and needed a hand from a friend of mine

This old friend he had a figure in mind
D4
It was nothing illegal just a little bit funny
G
He said, "C'mon don't tell me that the rich don't know sonny

Sooner or later it ll comes down to money."

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And you're waist deep in the big muddy

Waist deep in the big muddy
G D
You start on higher ground but end up crawlin' sonny

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Well I had a friend sid, "You watch what you do
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Poison snake bites you and you're poison too"

How beautiful the river flows and the birds they sing

But you and I we're messier things
D4
There ain't no one leavin' this world buddy
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Without their shirttail dirty

Or their hands bloody

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Waist deep in the big muddy

Waist deep in the big muddy
G D
You start on higher ground but end up somehow crawlin' sonny

Waist deep in the big muddy

Waist deep in the big muddy

Waist deep in the big muddy



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ralbertson Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:37 PM
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2. The Bruce did also make a special point of covering this Pete Seeger song, too...
(Which was, ahem, a bit more on topic than the admittedly-excellent Springsteen song that you quoted and kindly included the quitar chords to as well):




BRING THEM HOME (IF YOU LOVE YOUR UNCLE SAM)


If you love this land of the free
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring all troops back from overseas
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

It will make the generals sad, I know
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
They want to tangle with the foe
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

They want to test their weaponry
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Here is their big fallacy
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

Our foe is hunger and ignorance
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
You can't beat that with bombs and guns
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

I may be right, I may be wrong
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
But I got a right to sing this song
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

(spoken)
Isn't that the wonderful thing about America.
You got a right to be wrong.
Where else in the world can we do it like we can do it here?
And back in 1965 when I first wrote this song it was
"If you love your Uncle Sam
Support our boys in Vietnam
Bring 'em home"
And if you all sing that chorus with me we can raise the ceiling a little higher.
Hooray for the United States of America and the right to speak your mind.


There's one thing I must confess
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
I'm not really a pacifist
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

If an army invaded this land of mine
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
You'd find me out on the firing line
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

Show those generals a fallacy
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
They don't have the right weaponry
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

For defense you need common sense
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
They don't have the right armaments
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

The world needs teachers, books and schools
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
And learning a few universal rules
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

So now we don't want to fight for oil
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Underneath some foreign soil
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home

So if you love this land of the free
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
Bring all troops back from overseas
Bring 'em home, bring 'em home
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-30-08 05:44 PM
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3. yup
an unreleased (off the original CD that is) Seeger Sessions tune
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