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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:08 PM
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3 years ago today... Terri Schiavo died

Was it really only 3 years? Yep sad sorted tale of conservative hubris following the big campaign "win" and the public display of the mainstream media's voluntary obedience to even the most ridiculous of rightwing fake issues finally came to and end...well actually the end came when the autopsy showed (with no doubt) how contrived and manipulated the entire episode was.

REMEMBER-Bush came off of his vacation and flew FROM Crawford back to DC to sign the half-assed legislation that didn't (but could have) saved her life.

Terri Schiavo has died

Thursday, March 31, 2005 Posted: 10:07 AM EST (1507 GMT)

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/31/schiavo/index.html
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:11 PM
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1. Terri Schaivo's BODY died
Terri Schaivo as a person was dead long before that. What a sad, sorry case of republican hubris.
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:15 PM
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7. Concur
A body connected to feeding tubes and breathing apparatus is not a person, it is a body.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:20 PM
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9. Sigh. Terri was never connected to "breathing tubes".
Please get it right.
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 06:44 PM
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20. Umm.... no.
Many people have to use feeding tubes or ventilators for whatever reason.

Is a vent dependent quadriplegic not a "person"? A child who has to be tube fed due to a metabolic disorder?

Use of assistive technology does not equal "not a person". That is so beyond offensive.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:01 PM
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21. Was Christopher Reeves just a body, no longer a person?
I think you are confused as her problem was not that she was on a feeding tube, but her brain had issues. And there are many people who are on feeding tubes and assisted breathing who are still people, not just bodies. Like Christopher Reeves.
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margotb822 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:12 PM
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24. Yes, I should have specified
I did get my facts wrong, so I apologize.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:17 PM
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28. Thanks, was hoping it was just a quick write.
I've done them, for sure. Thanks for the acknowledgement/ apology.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:11 PM
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2. may terri rest in peace.
if it were up to bush and the republicans the poor woman would still be trapped in her body.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:12 PM
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3. What A Sad Circus That Was n/t
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:14 PM
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25. That whole fiasco gave my first exposure to Nancy Grace
And I've hated her ever since.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:36 AM
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36. The Flaming Nostrils Of Justice
I hate her too Slack. How ya doin btw? Good to see you. :hi:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:06 PM
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37. Doing well, thank you
Deeply involved in an important local political contest. I am managing a campaign.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:32 PM
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39. Do Tell? San Diego Is My De Facto Home Town
My Father is a retired Naval Officer and I went to high school there. What campaign are you involved in? I lived in Pacific Beach and Del Mar during my stay in SD.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:58 PM
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40. Watch for an IM
:hi:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:12 PM
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4. what a fiasco that was. that was truly disgusting how this government got involved with all that
Delay and Frist, both disgusting.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:12 PM
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5. I remember the flame wars over Terri Schiavo here.
Edited on Mon Mar-31-08 01:13 PM by Bunny
Wow! And then I think the Pope died the next day, which led to the "Nazi Pope" being elected. Made for a tense few weeks on DU.

Good times.

ETA - the best moment of the whole sad affair:

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:50 PM
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19. Do you remember the picture of the guy holding the sign
that said something about all of them being idiots? He was holding the sign above a girl's head and she turned around and saw what it said and has a priceless look on her face.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:40 PM
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30. Found it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:50 AM
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32. LOL!
Thank you.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 08:45 AM
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33. Was that "Jesus on a trailer hitch"?
OMG, I remember seeing that picture posted during the whole Schiavo episode and thinking how unbelievable it was. And the children with paper cups filled with water that they wanted to take to Terri (despite the fact that she couldn't swallow and that was the reason for her tube).

I got my own will made up shortly afterwards. I didn't want my family to have to go through such a horrible ordeal if I were in that predicament.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:08 AM
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35. No, that's "Jesus CHRIST on a trailer hitch"!
:rofl:

It was mind-boggling, wasn't it? I also drew up living will-type documents and had my family witness and sign them. I never want to go through what Terri was put through.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:14 PM
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6. I remember watching that cherrypicked video of her dad
playing with a balloon and how he was following her, not the other way around. I think a lot of other nurses who have worked with head injury cases and have seen the false hope and self delusion of family members saw the same thing I did.

I doubt any of us will let Dr. Frist anywhere near us, no matter what his reputation in his own field is. No professional medical person should have been fooled by that tape.

I'm glad she's finally at peace, that her husband has married and moved on. I do hope her parents finally accept the truth, that their daughter had been dead for a decade before her body was allowed to die and that they are able to give up the spotlight and move on with their lives.

As for every GOP politician and religious nut who used her body to grandstand upon, may they rot in the hell they want for the rest of us.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:18 PM
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8. I remember watching that pathetic circus and thinking that those people
who were so fervently praying their rosaries, and weeping and wailing, didn't exhibit the same concern for our people dying in afghanistan and iraq, and the thousands dying here without adequate health care, etc.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:41 PM
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10. No, 3 years ago she was laid to rest.
She had died much earlier.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:45 PM
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11. in this hellacious world of bu$hco it seems like a hundred years ago
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:45 PM
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31. We were lucky since the circus cleared out
just in time for us to head to St Petes to watch my youngest sister die three days later.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:46 PM
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12. Ironic, isn't it,
that Bush went back to DC to "help" this white woman while he ignored New Orleans when the city drowned.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:50 PM
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14. Katrina was only 6 months later
Amazing huh? No of course not it was right off the Rovian script


The storm weakened before making its second and third landfalls as a Category 3 storm on the morning of August 29 in southeast Louisiana and at the Louisiana/Mississippi state line, respectively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:47 PM
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13. And along with her body, Bush's public support perished.
Never to return.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 01:52 PM
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15. Yeah that was the point were it started it precipetous drop
but he was "re-elected" just 5 months before that ....right?

This was all it took for the house of cards to crumble???

Hmm :think:


AS noted above Katrina was almost exactly 6 months later (that is when it really was OVER for W) and ironically last night W threw out the first pitch at the Nationals game, when he threw out the pitch at the world series he was at his ultimate peak of popularity (for the greatest national security failure ever) after that it was all downhill-for everyone.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:04 PM
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16. Three girls took him down that year. Terri, Cindy, and Katrina.
That's always my short version of How Bush Fell Hard in 2005.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:18 PM
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29. That's when everyone realized that he'd "jumped the shark".
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:05 PM
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17. March 31, 2005: Terri Schiavo, RIP
Florida judge rejects state custody bid in Schiavo case, March 24, 2005


Florida Gov. Jeb Bush announcing a new legal filing in the Terri Schiavo case Wednesday.













Timeline:Terri Schiavo case



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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 02:45 PM
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18. They passed an illegal bill in the Florida Legislature.
They passed a Bill of Attainder. Those are forbidden by the Constitution.

A Bill of Attainder is any law passed which benefits one specific person, or has one person's name written on the title. It's illegal.


"What are laws to Sons of God?" -- Fred Nietzsche

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:02 PM
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22. Terri Schiavo, as her family knew her, was dead way before that.
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chixydix Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 07:05 PM
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23. "only" 3 years? It seems like 3 dozen...
:scared:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:15 PM
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26. You must be a little younger than I am
At age 50, three years goes by amazingly fast.
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chixydix Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:44 AM
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34. Actually I'm quite a bit older...but yeah they do go by fast.
So fast it seems like there were a LOT of 'em!
:D
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-31-08 09:16 PM
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27. She died many years before that....
May she rest in peace.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 12:12 PM
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38. She made fools of all of them!
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