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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:53 PM
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Behavior detection agents? Didn't even know we had em at airports
Bag With 'Prohibitive Materials' Closes Terminal At Orlando Airport


ORLANDO, Fla. -- A checked bag with "prohibitive items" inside prompted officials to close a portion of a terminal at Orlando International Airport Tuesday, according to officials.

Behavior detection agents spotted a man acting suspiciously around a ramp near the Virgin Atlantic Airlines and Jamaica Airlines part of the airport.

When the person's bag was checked, it was found to have prohibitive materials inside, officials said.

There was no word on what was inside the bag.

Local 6 showed video of a man being checked by a member of the bomb squad outside of the airport.

http://www.local6.com/news/15762829/detail.html
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:55 PM
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1. now they want to get into peoples heads.
just disgusting really disgusting.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 01:55 PM
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2. Prohibitive Materials?
Brochures for expensive watches? Road test report of the new Lamborghini? Oh wait! I know, my ARM reset rate!
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cloudbase Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:06 PM
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3. The Altman Report.
Sorry, inside joke.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:09 PM
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4. Sex threads are prohibited!
juicy hint about inside joke.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 04:18 PM
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9. Components to make pipe bombs were found in the man's
luggage. Guess the watchdogs know what they are doing.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 04:46 PM
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10. Maybe, maybe not.
Maybe they're just blowing smoke up our ass on this one. After all, they don't specify the materials that they found, and if you know anything about chemistry, or explosives, you would realize that virtually anything can be considered to be bomb making material. What, are they going to haul me off for having moth balls and scotch tape in my luggage now?

This could be on the up and up, but this could all be bullshit also. Given the track record of various LEOs, I tend to think it's the latter.
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:37 PM
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12. I was wondering about that, too!
Glad I'm not the only one, Turbineguy.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:13 PM
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5. So in other words my friends..
Don't be anxious if you are running late
Don't show stres
Don't have a pissed off look on your face because you might have the characteristics of a terrorist.
Don't be pissed when the TSA pats you down and cops a feel
Don't be pissed when they pull over your parent in a wheelchair...

What's the damn point of flying...screw them and screw the airlines....what needs to happen is Americans need to say enough is enough.

They charge us an arm and a leg, they provide less services, quality of service doesn't exist....and then on top of that they have these Nazi type behaviourlist who scope you out because you have a friggen migrain and the look on your face isn't right. Damn them..
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:41 PM
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6. none of the tsa clowns are trained therapists. so "behavior detection"?
what a load of BS-- they can declare anything they want to as "suspicious".

it continues to amaze me that the ones who proclaim they want small government, are the same ones applauding this country being turned into a police state.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 02:49 PM
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7. Isnt that just a fancy phrase for
Profiler??
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 04:16 PM
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8. Components to make pipe bombs found in his luggage.
According to the article.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 04:47 PM
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11. I got some really weird looks from the security agents recentlywhen I was traveling with my mother,
got separated from her, feared she hadn't heard about our gate change, and was wandering around very anxiously looking for her.

It creeped me out the way these guys were looking at me and I was afraid they would question me about my odd behavior and not believe my perfectly reasonable explanation. Airports make me a little crazy and paranoid.
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:00 PM
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13. Just take your xanax and...
... always remain perky and upbeat even when spending an hour inching forward in line while the TSA experts pinch and poke and prod, probing the body's most private nooks and crannies for the instruments of doom.

Maybe engage a stranger in conversation about something innocuous, like the weather or sports. Since there's a good chance that the stranger will be a snitch, you want to leave the best possible, non-threatening impression.

Be careful not to express impatience about the possibility of missing your flight; that could be construed as a negative comment on our national security infrastructure, which is a particularly sensitive area these days what with taser murders and nipple ring extractions and random cavity searches (for attractive young women only; the rest are presumed to pose no threat to the state).

So no toe-tapping or finger-drumming. Try to maintain a neutral expression, and smile when it's appropriate.

When those blue-gloved strangers stick their fingers into your purse or pockets, don't become annoyed because that's exactly the kind of reaction the behavior detection officers are trained to spot. Again, remain perky and upbeat and, above all, cooperative.

The authorities don't like it when you become assertive; best to remain meek and compliant, even when they feel you up in the name of defending the homeland. Smile a lot.

Here's an article describing how these new behavior detection specialists -- aptly called VIPRs, for Visible Intermodal Protection Response -- spent a day fucking with people at bus stops in Indianapolis last year. The original story has been scrubbed from the IndyStar website, of course.

I suppose this was a dry run preparing them for hazardous duty at the front lines of the war on privacy: America's airports, where dull-normal security dorks steal sewing scissors from 80-year-old radical Islamic grannies, an opened plastic water bottle gets them all hot and excited, shoes and belts are potential weapons of mass destruction and doing a partial striptease is the only way to get on a plane anymore.

And another putting a somewhat positive spin on their voyage of discovery to Dulles Airport, where they no doubt made lots of new friends.

And here's some happy talk from the DHS website about how these amateur Jungs are going to revolutionize the fine art of thought crime detection:

TRAINING TEAMS AND DEPLOYING MANPOWER AND RESOURCES TO THE FIELD

DHS is training various teams including law enforcement personnel, canine teams, and inspection personnel for deployment to deter and protect against potential terrorist actions.

Developing Visible Intermodal Protection Response (VIPR) Teams: Consisting of Federal Air Marshals (FAMs), Surface Transportation Security Inspectors, canine teams, and advanced screening technology, these teams provide DHS the ability to leverage a variety of resources quickly and effectively. These deployments are designed to raise the level of security in any mode of transportation anywhere in the country. The teams work with local security and law enforcement officials to supplement existing security resources, provide deterrent presence and detection capabilities, and introduce an element of unpredictability to disrupt potential terrorist planning activities. 14 VIPR exercises have been conducted at key commuter and regional rail facilities this year alone, and more are planned for the near future.


And the sick thing is, we let them get away with this nonsense. Instead of either refusing to be messed with or flatly refusing to buy another plane ticket until this idiocy stops and the TSA is run out of business, we just keep on swallowing as much shit as they can dish out.

What a completely fucked up country.


wp
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:11 PM
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14. I'm watching on our local news
He was an Air Jamaica passenger - a green card holder traveling on a Jamaican passport.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN4140792820080401
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