Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Don't Boycott The Olympics! End The Hypocrisy!

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 04:40 PM
Original message
Don't Boycott The Olympics! End The Hypocrisy!
And here's why:

CounterPunch
Weekend Edition
March 29 / 30, 2008

China, Tibet and the Propaganda Olympics
By WILLIAM BLUM

-William Blum is the author of Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II, Rogue State: a guide to the World's Only Super Power. and West-Bloc Dissident: a Cold War Political Memoir.-

The Washington Post recently ran a story about how the Chinese people largely support the government suppression of the Tibetan protesters. The heading was: "Beijing's Crackdown Gets Strong Domestic Support. Ethnic Pride Stoked by Government Propaganda." The article spoke of how Beijing officials have "educated" the public about Tibet "through propaganda".

That's a rather interesting concept. Imagine the Post or any other American mainstream media saying that those Americans who support the war in Iraq do so because they've been educated by government propaganda. ... Ditto those who support the war in Afghanistan. ... Ditto those who supported the bombing of Yugoslavia. ... Ditto scores of other US invasions, bombings, overthrows, and miscellaneous war crimes spanning more than half a century.

Now Germany's foreign minister has warned China that its response to the crisis in Tibet may jeopardize the Summer Olympics in Beijing. "The German federal government is saying to the Chinese government: be transparent! We want to know exactly what is going on in Tibet." He also warned China to avoid any violent measures in its standoff with Tibetan protesters. Human rights organizations have demanded that Coca-Cola, Visa, General Electric, and other international companies explain their dealings with the Chinese government as it prepares to host the Summer Games. The French Foreign Minister floated the prospect of boycotting the Games' opening ceremony because of China's response to the protests. And the president of the European Parliament said European countries should not rule out threatening China with a boycott if violence continued in Tibet.

It's nice to see the West's conscience stirred up. They're real good about such things, when the target is not one of their own, particularly against a communist country. In 1980, 62 nations -- including the United States, Canada, West Germany, Japan, and Israel -- boycotted the Olympics in Moscow because the previous year the Soviet Union had invaded Afghanistan. Four years later, the Olympics were held in Los Angeles. Not a single member of "The Free World" boycotted it, even though the previous year the United States had invaded Grenada and overthrown the government, with a lot less political justification than the Russians had for invading Afghanistan. The Grenada invasion was as much lacking in legality and morality as the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Please read the entire article at:

http://www.counterpunch.org/blum03292008.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 05:35 PM
Response to Original message
1. This has been my position from day one
Can't wait to see them cheer on London despite Britain's role in genocide in Iraq. The double standards are breath-taking. Personally since I know the history of the Olympic Movement, I am truly amazed at how many people buy their myths about peace, goodwill and the rest of the beatitudes.

The bad news for the myth-buyers is that GE intends to show off her rain water recycling system under the stadium. After all the Olympics have always been one big trade show for corporations.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
2. these hypocritical politicians are willing to crap all over athletes
just to look like righteous poseurs. It was stupid in the 1980 Olympics, it was stupid in the 1984 Olympics, and its stupid now. The WHOLE POINT of the Olympics was for a place for the world's atheletes to gather free of political interference.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. That was never true
The Olympics were all white and all male for quite some time. What's more the Olympics have never been free from politics.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:03 PM
Response to Original message
3. Now tell us what you think of the Dalai Lama
You're a bloody propaganda pusher. "Billy did it too" is not a valid excuse, and those of us who are all too aware of our own governments' ill deeds can also object to China's with a clear conscience.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. So What Do You Propose To Do? Boycott The Olympics?
If you want to support the "God King of Tibet" that is your right. I don't. And I certainly don't object to anyone protesting Chinese government policies such as their attacks on workers rights or their intervention in Tibet. However, in addition to supposedly supporting self-determination for Tibet, I hope you oppose any "ethnic cleansing" of Chinese, the fire bombing of Chinese owned stores and physical attacks against Chinese in Tibet. Will you deny that such attacks have occurred?

So the bottom line is this. What do you think the Bush government should do to "punish" China .... boycott the Olympics perhaps?

Now I never supported the old "Maoist" regime in China and today I don't support the "communist" bureaucrats who have discovered how to become filthy rich by embracing capitalism. But, I'm sure not going to punish the Chinese people and Olympic participants for the policies of the current Chinese government.

The 2002 Winter Olympics held in Salt Lake City were not boycotted on political grounds. They could have been! And I would have been equally opposed to such a boycott.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Desperate measures by desperate people
I don't condone any violent acts by Tibetans, but I can certainly understand their level of frustration. History has repeatedly shown that sometimes it takes violence - even terrorism - to get an oppressive government to negotiate. It's worked for the IRA and PLO.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Now Tell Us What You Think Of The Pope
Edited on Tue Apr-01-08 06:51 PM by Better Believe It
Never mind. That's irrelevant. I really don't care to know about any religious or spiritual prejudices you may have for or against any religious sects or leaders be it the Pope or God King of Tibet.

I just don't support God Kings or any other kind of Kings. Feudalism is not the wave of the future! Really!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 07:08 PM
Response to Original message
7. K&R
But what of Tibetan Buddhism? Is it not an exception to this sort of strife? And what of the society it helped to create? Many Buddhists maintain that, before the Chinese crackdown in 1959, old Tibet was a spiritually oriented kingdom free from the egotistical lifestyles, empty materialism, and corrupting vices that beset modern industrialized society. Western news media, travel books, novels, and Hollywood films have portrayed the Tibetan theocracy as a veritable Shangri-La. The Dalai Lama himself stated that “the pervasive influence of Buddhism” in Tibet, “amid the wide open spaces of an unspoiled environment resulted in a society dedicated to peace and harmony. We enjoyed freedom and contentment.” 4

A reading of Tibet’s history suggests a somewhat different picture. “Religious conflict was commonplace in old Tibet,” writes one western Buddhist practitioner. “History belies the Shangri-La image of Tibetan lamas and their followers living together in mutual tolerance and nonviolent goodwill. Indeed, the situation was quite different. Old Tibet was much more like Europe during the religious wars of the Counterreformation.” 5 In the thirteenth century, Emperor Kublai Khan created the first Grand Lama, who was to preside over all the other lamas as might a pope over his bishops. Several centuries later, the Emperor of China sent an army into Tibet to support the Grand Lama, an ambitious 25-year-old man, who then gave himself the title of Dalai (Ocean) Lama, ruler of all Tibet. Here is a historical irony: the first Dalai Lama was installed by a Chinese army.

...

Religions have had a close relationship not only with violence but with economic exploitation. Indeed, it is often the economic exploitation that necessitates the violence. Such was the case with the Tibetan theocracy. Until 1959, when the Dalai Lama last presided over Tibet, most of the arable land was still organized into manorial estates worked by serfs. These estates were owned by two social groups: the rich secular landlords and the rich theocratic lamas. Even a writer sympathetic to the old order allows that “a great deal of real estate belonged to the monasteries, and most of them amassed great riches.” Much of the wealth was accumulated “through active participation in trade, commerce, and money lending.” 10

Drepung monastery was one of the biggest landowners in the world, with its 185 manors, 25,000 serfs, 300 great pastures, and 16,000 herdsmen. The wealth of the monasteries rested in the hands of small numbers of high-ranking lamas. Most ordinary monks lived modestly and had no direct access to great wealth. The Dalai Lama himself “lived richly in the 1000-room, 14-story Potala Palace.” 11

...

The Tibetan serfs were something more than superstitious victims, blind to their own oppression. As we have seen, some ran away; others openly resisted, sometimes suffering dire consequences. In feudal Tibet, torture and mutilation--including eye gouging, the pulling out of tongues, hamstringing, and amputation--were favored punishments inflicted upon thieves, and runaway or resistant serfs. Journeying through Tibet in the 1960s, Stuart and Roma Gelder interviewed a former serf, Tsereh Wang Tuei, who had stolen two sheep belonging to a monastery. For this he had both his eyes gouged out and his hand mutilated beyond use. He explains that he no longer is a Buddhist: “When a holy lama told them to blind me I thought there was no good in religion.”21 Since it was against Buddhist teachings to take human life, some offenders were severely lashed and then “left to God” in the freezing night to die. “The parallels between Tibet and medieval Europe are striking,” concludes Tom Grunfeld in his book on Tibet. 22

...

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html">Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Government Officials Lack Any Moral Authority On This Matter
Before western politicians begin lecturing the Chinese government on human rights, democratic elections, non-intervention, freedom, civil liberties, blah blah blah ...... let's clean up our own house. Will American politicians also be preaching to them on the virtues of Wall Street bandits and the wonderful economic system they have devised over the past few decades?

Government officials have absolutely no credibility to speak on behalf of the United States with any moral and authority on such matters.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 09:18 PM
Response to Original message
9. The Mexico City games were preceded by an absolute bloodbath
we should stop pretending that we have standards.

All the Olympic committee cared about was banning the Black Power movement from the Olympics. How fucked up is that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:00 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. But The Games Went On



Tommie Smith (center) and John Carlos (right) showing the Black Power salute in the 1968 Summer Olympics while Silver medalist Peter Norman (left) wears an OPHR badge to show his support for the two Americans.While a student at San Jose State, Smith won the national collegiate 220-yard (201.17-meter) title in 1967 before adding the AAU furlong (201.17m) crown as well. He repeated as AAU 200m champion in 1968 and made the Olympic team. In the 1968 Olympic Games at Mexico City, he won the gold medal for the 200m in a world record time 19.83 s. He and a teammate, John Carlos, who earned the bronze, gave a Black Power salute while receiving their medals. Silver medalist Peter Norman, a white Australian, donned a human rights badge on the podium in support of their protest. (See 1968 Olympics Black Power Salute.)

Some people (particularly IOC president Avery Brundage) felt that a political statement had no place in the international forum of the Olympic Games. In an immediate response to their actions, Smith and Carlos were suspended from the U.S. team by Brundage and banned from the Olympic Village. Those who opposed the protest said the actions disgraced all Americans. Supporters, on the other hand, praised the men for their bravery. The men's gesture had lingering effects for both Smith and Carlos, the most serious of which were death threats against them and their families.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. I fantasize about something similar THIS Olympics
Namely, gold medalist pulls small Tibetan flag from inside shirt and show it during his country's anthem.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-01-08 11:49 PM
Response to Original message
13. China was (and is) absolutely wrong in invading Tibet.
China fucking sucks. It is one evil country. Nothing we do or have ever done compares to the murders committed by China in Tibet and elsewhere.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. So You Think China Belongs In Bush's Axis Of Evil?
Edited on Wed Apr-02-08 03:11 PM by Better Believe It
Sounds like you're giving U.S. governments a pass. Guess the treatment and genocide of Native Americans, Black people under slavery, the killing of 100,000 Japanese civilians when the atomic bombs were dropped, the war against the Vietnamese (millions of Vietnamese civilians died during that U.S. invasion), the war against Iraq, etc., just don't count for very much in your book.

So those were just tiny imperfections or "mistakes" that don't compare to China's actions in Tibet?

Do you also think the Chinese people are an evil race?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-02-08 08:04 PM
Response to Original message
15. kicking
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 23rd 2024, 11:25 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC