Male rock fans likely to vote Republican: survey

[marmar]

from Reuters, via Yahoo!:



Male rock fans likely to vote Republican: survey
By Sue Zeidler
2 hours, 25 minutes ago



LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - If you are male and a Led Zeppelin fan, chances are you may be leaning toward voting Republican in the U.S. presidential election, according to a survey of rock radio fans released on Wednesday.

The Jacobs Media's Media/Technology Web Poll IV of more than 27,000 respondents cited stronger than expected interest in the November 2008 election among fans of rock, classic rock, and alternative radio stations.

It also found that John McCain, the Republican candidate for U.S. president, was the top pick for the Oval Office for men and classic rock partisans -- those people who tune in to stations playing music from the "original classic rock era" of 1964 to 1975, comprised of bands like Led Zeppelin, The Who and Pink Floyd.

Jacobs Media said the survey, conducted among 69 U.S. rock-formatted stations in markets as diverse as Los Angeles and Knoxville to Buffalo, found 84 percent of the respondents planned to vote in the November election.

"People are clearly engaged by this election, even rockers. A lot of stations tend to shy away from politics because it's so polarizing, but this data suggests they'd better find a way to talk about politics this fall to keep listeners interested," said Fred Jacobs, president of Jacobs Media. He said the company threw the political questions in as an afterthought and was surprised by the results.

The survey was conducted in late February and early March. .....(more)

The complete piece is at: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080403/pl_nm/usa_politics_rockers_dc

[Fox Mulder]

1. What a bunch of crap.

[villager]

2. well, then, Lennon was right: rock failed

n/t

[Forkboy]

3. Can't say this overly surprises me. They should be Ministry fans instead.

They had voter sign ups on their last tour. And Uncle Al HATES repubs.

[Ordr]

98. God I love Ministry.

[babylonsister]

4. That's depressing. FTR, my DH falls into that rock fan category, but

he must be the exception to this particular study. Ain't no way he's voting for McSame.

[Irishonly]

14. Ditto here

DH from way back. McSame is one of the nicer things he calls him.

[JerseygirlCT]

102. Exactly nt

[hobbit709]

5. TOTAL BS

[Quantess]

79. It HAS TO be total BS!

It's possible that male rock fans are less interested in politics. However, to say they vote republican is a stretch.

My ex boyfriend (still a good friend) is a rock musician (guitar player) is Thoroughly Liberal, and his cousin is equally into rock music, classic to metal, and is equally liberal-progressive-Democratic.

I like rock music, classic rock, newer rock, alternative, grunge, metal, math-rock, etc... and look at me, here on DU. (but I'm a woman, so never mind).

Ever listened to Rush lyrics? Pink Floyd lyrics?
Or maybe, the study was limited to Ted Nugent fans.

[tabasco]

6. Give 'em an ipod, a Kevlar, an M-16, and a pair of boots.

Ship their dumb asses off to Iraq!

[islandmkl]

7. IF THEY FUCKING VOTE!!....

or not....but definitely one of the two...

[Drunken Irishman]

8. And most rock bands probably vote Democratic.

Oh the irony.

[AX10]

9. Republicans like Led Zeppelin?

[XtraProudDem]

10. So?

So people who have never listened to any music made after 1975 are Republicans? Am I supposed to be surprised?

Some of these McCain-voting "Pink Floyd fans" ought to go back and listen to some of those songs a little more carefully - Roger Waters could teach them a thing or two.

[Johonny]

47. that's what I was thinking.

Waters not exactly a big Bush fan.

[Cabcere]

65. That was my first thought, actually

"Pink Floyd fans?" Bet Roger Waters would be pissed...have any of these jacklegs even listened to the lyrics? :crazy:

[XemaSab]

93. They probably think "The Wall" is to keep the damn Mexicans out

:P

[YOY]

11. Cock rockers who haven't realized new music has been created since the 80's or real rockers?

n/t

[Wickerman]

12. Won't get fooled again?

If you still listen to a steady diet of the same crap 40 years on, then, yeah, you get the govt you deserve.

[napoleon_in_rags]

13. Doesn't totally surprise me.

Its that stupid subculture...I ran into it a lot in practice spaces that had a lot of bands. Long haired older beer drinking white guys talking about how oppressed they are by political correctness. Usually in sentences starting "heh, I'm a pretty open minded guy and all, BUT..."

[CRF450]

72. EDIT: wrong reply

[angstlessk]

15. Wait a frick fracking minute...30% Democrats vs 22% Repubs..

and...Barack Obama led the pack with 26% support MCCAIN CAME IN SECOND with 22%???...THAT AINT WHAT THE FRICK FRACKING HEADLINE SAID!!! HOW HORRID!!!

[depakid]

16. Web poll surveys are stastically biased to the point of being meaningless

But that doesn't keep STUPID reporters (who've never had even the most basic stats class) from acting as though the numbers are sacrosanct.

Or people like Fred Jacobs from making money off of them.

[Kitty Herder]

44. Any idiot can figure out that web polls are statistically meaningless. Reporters just

don't care. They want a story that will attract attention, whether it's based on anything real or not.

[Harry Monroe]

17. What a crock of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Purveyor]

18. Oh yeah...they are just lining up to vote for the vietnam enabler and 100 more years of Iraq

occupation...

"I believe"....my ass!

[dweller]

19. that's whack

oh wait, this guy's fans?




nevermind.
dp

[marmar]

20. As a resident of the great state of Michigan, let me again apologize for Kid Rock and Ted Nugent....

..... but we also produced lefties such as Madonna and Eminem.

[kmsarvis]

30. DONT FORGET THE MOST LEFTIST BAND EVER.........

THE MC5-FOUNDERS OF THE WHITE PANTHER PARTY AND PIONEERS OF PUNK

[stevedeshazer]

32. LOVE them

Stooges, too

[marmar]

34. I forget about MC5 all the time.....

.... and the conscious rap of Slum Village.

[Echo In Light]

54. And underground metal icon, Wino, formed the anti-Bush band, The Hidden Hand

A lifelong, tough-as-nails leftist. All of his bands have been very anti-establishment/Big Brother.

In the middle:




Travesty As Usual {protest against American foreign policies}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC7MdxkpVPU

[L0oniX]

109. It's time to kick out the jams mutha fuckas

I used to play all that shit in rock bands.

[Moloch]

39. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if all of Kid Rock's fans...

were idiots.. I mean, listen to his "lyrics."

[KamaAina]

63. Don't you mean *both* of Kid Rock's fans?

:evilgrin:

[EOTE]

58. That's just what I was thinking.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if his followers worship the ground that the chimp walks on. In fact, I'd be surprised if they didn't. I couldn't care for his brand of flag and cock waving rock any less.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

21. This stands to reason and makes perfect sense to me

I'm 39 years old. I grew up listening to Led Zeppelin, BOC, Pink Floyd, Rush, and so on. And I still love to listen to these bands--on occasion.

But if you're in my general age group and you're still listening to your local Clear Channel classic rock station as your main source of music, the station that only plays songs that were in the top 10 way back in the day, the station that still thinks it's cool to play AOR stuff like Comfortably Numb 3 times a day 30 years after its release...well, it could be argued that you're stuck in the past. And that begins to approach the definition of conservatism (and maybe a lack of imagination too). I still love to hear Free Bird, but on my own schedule, which works out to be about once every 3 years or so. I listen to newer music. Hell, I've learned to love much, much older music, for that matter (Django Reinhardt, anyone?). So it comes as no surprise to me that someone who solely subsists on the Doobie Brothers and Disraeli Gears or whatever would be likely to vote for McCain. These are the same people that want a simple, black and white world where the US are the good guys with the white hats and we kick ass and take names and go to monster truck shows.

This doesn't detract from old rock & roll at all. It speaks more of simpletons with no imagination. And if you're in your teens or twenties and you've just discovered Zeppelin and listen to them all the time, this post isn't referring to you. Congrats on finding a great old band and grooving to their catalog (maybe I'll be lucky enough to see you at the Plant/Krauss show). And if you're my age or older, and you're going back and listening to the deep tracks, this post isn't about you. It's about the stuck-in-the-rut people; and they're by and large Republican-leaning.

[BlueJazz]

35. Yep...DisgustipatedinCA....you hit it on the head. These are the same folks that...

..call in to Radio Stations (when they have request hour) and ask for such "Rarities" as Satisfaction by the Stones or I want to hold your hand by the Beatles.
I usually am driving at the time and think:
"Jesus Christ..Out of all the thousands and thousands of rock tunes, you fuckers chose songs that are played 20 times a day??"

Idiots..

[kmsarvis]

41. NAIL ON THE HEAD!!!!!

[PVnRT]

56. Well said

I think it has to do more with the demographic of people listening to commercial radio, not with "rock fans" in general.

[Aviation Pro]

82. I agree....

...I'm 49 and I regularly change my musical tastes (Dropkick Murphys anyone?). The conservative crowd is so entrenched in the past they gravitate toward Free Bird as a totem to their wasted vigor and youth ("I love ya man!").

[stevedeshazer]

22. As an original punker, I'm not surprised

I'm 53 and all these assholes (men, mostly) my age who still listen to music from the 1970's stopped learning when they were, I guess, 17 or so.

Sweet Jesus, I hate 'classic rock'.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Are simon and garfunkel classic?

I mean... if they LISTENED to the lyrics they might be in for a shock

He was my brother
and he died so we all coud be free

About them freedom riders

Then again... with the state of American memory... who remembers that? (Me, but I'd better... after all I did get a history degree and not as a legacy)

[stevedeshazer]

25. I don't understand your question

Are they classic? Yes, I suppose.

Are they rock? No, they're folk.

I'm pretty sure you won't hear Simon and Garfunkel on your local classic butt rock station.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. But i buy their albums at the Rock n Roll section at Barnes and Noble

or any other music provider, They are not in the folk section

And you really don't hear folk music on the radio

In fact, you have not heard that for years

[kmsarvis]

27. MEN WHO LISTEN TO "CORPORATE ROCK".....

ARE MORE LIKELY TO VOTE REPUBLICAN. BUT US PUNKERS KNOW THE LEFT IS BETTER.


MINUTEMEN-1984

[stevedeshazer]

29. Me and my boys in 1979

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Viw5W5OODkQ

[kmsarvis]

33. AWSOME FOOTAGE!!!!!!

WHO WERE YOU?

[stevedeshazer]

37. Singer

Stiphnoyds.

[kmsarvis]

40. COOL!!!!

IM GONNA TRY TO FIND THAT 7 AND THAT LIVE LP YOU PUT OUT.

[kmsarvis]

38. HERE IS ANOTHER GREAT ...........

LEFTIST BAND FROM THE LATE 70S

THEY WERE CALIFORNIAS ANSWER TO THE CLASH FOR A SHORT TIME BUT THEN IMPLODED.

[stevedeshazer]

42. We opened for them in Portland

[kmsarvis]

43. FUCKING COOL!!!!!!!!

I LOVE THAT BAND!!!!CHIP KINMAN IS THE SHIT!!!! IT IS COOL THAT YOU WERE A PARTICIPANT IN THAT SCENE.YOU WERE PART OF SOMETHING SPECIAL.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

61. I used to hang with these guys....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayglo_Abortions

Ah, those were the days

[kmsarvis]

78. HERES THE BEST BAND NAME EVER.....

[DarkTirade]

67. Which one are you? Guitar, voice, bass or drums?

Just wondering as a fellow musician. :)

[stevedeshazer]

69. Voice.

[DarkTirade]

70. Not half bad. :)

The bass was pretty good too. I don't know drums well enough to really judge, I'm a voice and string guy mostly. :) Unfortunately my voice is a little too classical for rock, and a little too rock for classical... but c'est la guerre. Can't do it all myself anyway. Gotta find other people to play with.

Nice balance on the guitar too, getting chords and solo type stuff in there together without either one standing out too much on their own and making it obvious that you've only got one guitar covering both ends of the spectrum. Not easy to pull off.

[stevedeshazer]

74. Yeah, but

It was 1979.

:)

[DarkTirade]

75. I finally got an electric guitar the Friday before last

and since I've played acoustic for 12 years or so, and written music for guitar for the last 7 or 8, I figure it's about goddamned time I join/start a band. :P

I also started on bass recently, but the bass I have is just a cheap starter one.

[stevedeshazer]

77. Go

Do it.

:)

[DarkTirade]

80. I've already dabbled a bit in recording some of my stuff

despite having no drums and it just being me. :)

http://www.stickmanltd.com/practicesessions/indarkness-shortversion.mp3 This was one of the first songs I ever wrote... back when I was dating a somewhat gothy girl. :) I could never record it before because I needed an electric guitar to pull it off properly, so I just recorded it recently. Not the best quality, and the bass, being a cheap starter bass, doesn't want to stay in tune. I never wrote a drum line for it (or a bassline for that matter, that I wrote just recently.), just two guitars and voice originally. And this was a quick test run to see how it turned out.

Everything else I have recorded (so far) is on my acoustic guitar.

[stevedeshazer]

81. I listened and I liked it

D I Y

You are on the right track.

:)

[DBoon]

46. Good post!

Like your choice of bands to display to make the point

And even early 80's "New Wave" has political mojo. There is more real politics in "Life During Wartime" than in the entire playlist of a classic rock station

[kmsarvis]

71. LIFE DURING WARTIME......

I LOVE TALKING HEADS. YOUVE GOT GOOD TASTE.

[Eric Condon]

66. We need more like D. Boon today.

I can only imagine the songs he would've written about the Chimp Administration.

This ain't no picnic, indeed. And working men are pissed.

[Quantess]

84. YEAH!!! But I ask your opinion.

Who is today's "corporate rock"? I nominate Nickelback to the top slot of dubious distinction.

DEVO is my #1 pick as opposite of "corporate rock".

[Initech]

24. I'm a white male who loves Led Zeppelin.

But there's no fucking way I will ever vote Republican. This survey is bullshit.

[Quantess]

85. Yes, absolutely it's utter bullshit.

Just tell me one thing....
You're a white male who loves Led Zeppelin. were you also long-haired, skinny, and shirtless throughout the mid-1970's through the mid 1980's?

It seems odd, but I remember seeing several of my older brothers' friends in the mid-late 70's and thinking they looked just like Robert Plant.

But when I still saw it in the 1980's on my friend's brothers, it seemed less cool, and more like a symptom of drug use. I was correct.

Anyway, cheers!

[flvegan]

26. Depends on what band/genre you like.

Show me one Republican voter that just left a NIN, RATM, Beastie Boys, Rise Against, etc show...

[marmar]

28. None. But I think the survey said Alt Rock fans swing Democratic....

I more of a hiphop/dance/R&B/electronica/house/Britpop guy, but NIN rules!

[DarkTirade]

68. There are always a few weirdos who you wouldn't expect to swing the way they do.

Hell, I knew a rock-listening D&D playing pagan who was a die-hard right-winger.

[Quantess]

87. D&D. That tells us a lot.

He lived in a fantasy life.

[Echo In Light]

97. So many mixed messages and hybrids, so many wanting the "cool" affectations of each

...which, when it comes to mass marketing, that's pretty much what it boils down to.

[johnnie]

36. Doesn't surprise me

Who the fuck listens to shitty radio anyway? Repukes it seems. I don't mind classic rock, but I don't listen to the 25 or so songs they play on the radio everyday.

[and-justice-for-all]

45. I'm a Rock/Metal fan...

AND I DO NOT VOTE FOR FACIST!! thanx!

[Quantess]

88. Well obviously not , since you like Metallica.

A boyfriend in 1990 introduced me to Metallica by playing the song Master of Puppets. I instantly liked it, yet I distrusted it, because it was probably satanic or something. He said no, listen again, it is more likely an anti-government statement, or a rebellious statement.

Clearly, the song "Master Of Puppets" is about cocaine or meth addiction.
"chop your breakfast on a mirror...taste me you will see...more is all you need..."

[and-justice-for-all]

90. I like old school Metallica...

anything after '...And Justice For All' is crap, IMO.

No, Metallica was never a 'Satanic' band. There really only a limited amount of 'satanic' bands and those you seem to be so are more then likely Atheistic.

But yeah, I like Metal and I do not vote for Fascist assholes: www.synister-radio.com (it's mine.)

[Solly Mack]

48. Piffle

[Seeking Serenity]

49. DH, the conservative, likes the old and new rock

Disturbed, Green Day (not exactly new anymore), Serj whateverhisnameis, Seether, etc.

He's definitely voting Repub this year.

I hate polls. They're so stupid.

[Quantess]

89. I'm sorry.

I wonder why anyone would stay with someone whose values were so different from their own?

[Seeking Serenity]

99. Love.

Besides, our values aren't all that different; just our political inclinations are.

[CRF450]

101. That would be Serj Tankian

Have you seen the video for Saving Us? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wk38bW8whc

[Seeking Serenity]

111. I haven't. Serj is not my cuppa tea.

I'll show it to DH, though.

I do find it interesting that he's Lebanese by birth, though (says DH).

[Clark2008]

50. LZ is my white husband's all-time favorite...

and he wouldn't vote for a Republican for any reason.

[spanone]

51. m a n u r e

[maxsolomon]

52. makes sense if you consider Jimmy Buffett "Rock"

in my hometown of cincinnait, he'd sell out 2 weeks of shows - and they'd be entirely filled with smug suburban republicans "cutting loose".

but conservatives who like "rock" don't listen to the lyrics. remember when "Born in the USA" was top 10? i never liked bruce, but the lyrics:

Born down in a dead man's town
The first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that's been beat too much
'Til you spend half your life just covering up

that'll inspire patriotism! GO USA!

[Echo In Light]

62. Great example, that! ...and good point on the lack of attention/insight into lyrical content

Springsteen's Born in The USA was a harsh critique of America, yet it was and is still used as flag-waving Pollyanna ... right up there with CCR's Fortunate Son.

[JerseygirlCT]

105. Yes! Exactly what I was thinking

Makes me nuts. Must make the artists even nuttier!

[Echo In Light]

53. I am a rocker, and have spent my life with fellow rockers: most are VERY liberal

Myself included.

[SoCalDem]

55. I think we have way too many pollsters

:)

[HughBeaumont]

57. They sure as shit didn't ask me, because there's no way in HELL I'd vote fascist.

Maybe Kid Rock's fans would. You know, when they're all done passing the brain around.

[riverdeep]

59. Maybe this recent thread on DU has some relevance.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3095136
(How can schools teach "critical-thinking skills?")

From the yahoo article: "The Jacobs Media's Media/Technology Web Poll IV of more than 27,000 respondents cited..."

From an article on web polls: "Here's why news organizations of all kinds sprinkle their Web sites with self-selected opinion polls, despite the fact that even journalists understand that such polls are unreliable: Readers enjoy them. They're fodder for discussion, and, as an editor here put it not long ago, "People just like to click on buttons."

http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2005/071805buzz.html?page=2

It's like getting on an uncalibrated scale- you could weigh 180lbs. or 230lbs, who knows? The poll doesn't actually measure anything about 'rockers' at all, but the above quote sure seems to be true. We're talking about it as if it does.

[Echo In Light]

60. For the record, a list of underground metal bands of the left, NOT the right

While I certainly can't speak to the personal beliefs and political views of every band member, I listen to the music of each of these bands, have met several, and seriously doubt you'd find many self proclaimed right wingers listening to this stuff, let alone be remotely interested.


Saint Vitus
Black Sabbath
Budgie
Earthride
Mammatus
Sleep
Om
Glow
Starchild
Datura
YOB
Clutch
Dead Meadow
Melvins
Bongzilla
Slow Horse
Pale Divine
Internal void
Earth
Thrones
Sons of Otis
Candlemass
Wall of Sleep
Las Cruces
Electric Wizard
Acid King
Bottom
Witchcraft
Count Raven
Ocean Chief
Burning Saviours
Trouble
The Obsessed
Spirit Caravan
Place of Skulls
The Hidden Hand
Solitude Aeturnus
Witch
UFOmammut
Earthless
Liquid Sound Company
High on fire

[Withywindle]

76. I like the way you think!

More:

Mastodon
Minsk
Yakuza
SunnO)))
Khanate
Thrones

and, y'know, the whole Southern Lord roster. :headbang:


All smart, smart people.

There might be some Libertarians in there somewhere, but McCainies?

[Echo In Light]

94. LOL...well, S.L. has signed a lot of angsty adolescent "black" metalers lately...

Not exactly a vibe that resonates with leftist ideals...but some of it may be misguided youth/affectation. However, I did include Thrones in my list! ...back in the early 90s my then band played a show w/Melvins, I had forgotten my drum rug and so the bass kept sliding, Joe and Dale came out with a piece of 2x4, nails and a hammer and erected a makeshift bass drum anchor!!! :toast: Since then I've met up with Joe at a handful of other Melvins, and then Thrones, gigs. For those not in the know, Thrones is Joe Preston's one man band. Joe had his beginnings in the early 90s seminal drone band, Earth, and along with Thrones, has since done stints in SunnO))) and High on Fire. He is very down to earthy people. He likes cats. :P

[KamaAina]

64. They forgot the Beach Boys

those people who tune in to stations playing music from the "original classic rock era" of 1964 to 1975, comprised of bands like Led Zeppelin, The Who and Pink Floyd.

What about the band (indirectly) responsible for "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb bomb Iran"? :eyes:

[CRF450]

73. What a bunch of shit

I listen to alot of new rock/metal like Chevelle, Spineshank, Skindred, Limp Bizkit, Breaking Benjamin, Tool, Rammstein, System Of A Down, and Nonpoint. Most of them have lyrics leaning towards the left.


Most repubs are still listening to country, which I cant stand anymore.

[Bigleaf]

83. Well, I know a lot of rockers that listen to Rush during the day.

Not that Rush, I'm talking Ged, Al and Neil:





















:headbang:

[and-justice-for-all]

91. Saw Snakes and Arrows Tour in Indianapolis...

3 hours worth, :headbang:

[Bigleaf]

100. Pretty awesome eh? I've seen them every tour since Hemispheres. They Rock!

I saw them already this tour in Toronto and San Diego and am going to see them next month in Irvine, CA and possibly Toronto again. Not too shabby for 50-something year olds.

:headbang:

[JerseygirlCT]

104. You know, I have a greater appreciation for them as I age...

His voice is still rather hard to take, but those are some intelligent lyrics. I'm a sucker for that.

And, as my musician son points out: can those guys stay in the same time signature for more than 32 measures at a time, lol? It does keep things interesting, but drumming for them must be very tricky!

[and-justice-for-all]

114. they are no only musicians, but they are also teacher/professors

I know geddy is a professior and I am pretty sure Alex is too. Neil is just a drum gawd.

[calimary]

86. Well, MY male rockers (who like Led Zep) are ardent liberal Dems!

www.myspace.com/acidicband


www.acidicsounds.com


:hug:

[Forkboy]

92. For those of you who are saying bullshit...

..did it occur to you that you might represent the smaller portion that does vote Dem? Just because you're not going to vote repub doesn't invalidate the survey. And you shouldn't take it personally that many will (and equally, those using a broad brush against classic rock fans should think again and remember you people who aren't idiots).

Just because there may be a lot of idiots into that music doesn't make you guys idiots, and it doesn't make the music any different either. Don't be so defensive. I, for one, don't see you all as cluster of Repub loving fools. :)

Trust me, as a punk fan from way back, even though a lot of the bands themselves weren't right leaning, a ton of the fans were, and were the same blockheaded types we're talking about here. Some of them took the words of the great punk bands to heart, but many just saw the shows as a chance to knock heads like thugs. But just because we were into the same music doesn't mean the losers defined me, and nor do the losers here define you. Only you can do that, and by voting Dem or progressive you're doing your part. That's all you can do.

:toast:

[Echo In Light]

96. "many just saw the shows as a chance to knock heads" - jocks killed our local scene in the mid 90s

While I was in it for several yrs from the late 80s to mid 90s, there was a vibrant, thriving local music scene here in this part of the midwest. Whether you were an arsty college student, a self proclaimed "punk," or one of the druggie doom metalheads like myself {I've got Born Too Late tattooed on my arm}, there was room for all, and all were welcome ... there were so many memorable bands!

Then... Nirvana became a household name {no fault of theirs, really} and slowly the social climate changed as it became increasingly trendy for the the drunken-blowhard-jock crowd {who went on to be the main supporters of rap/hip hop, which to me is like the disco of now} to come to more local shows as slam dancing and moshing pits provided easy opportunities for dickheads to start fights, ruin the night, get the fuckin cops called, big stupid drama, etc.

Yet another example of mainstream fools and their mainstream ideals and aims desperately wanting to adopt the "outsider" posture/charisma without having a clue as to what any of it meant at its heart. They're the same ones who went for the pseudo-country phase, then the misogynistic rap phase, and now ride around on their $50k worth of Standard Issue Bad Boy Harley Costume Ideal ...people who are anything but anti-establishment, don't like anti-establishment types, and only took on elements of sub-culture that fit their ideal: impress others with Big Dumb Macho. The real ones could give a shit what anyone thinks... :hippie:

[Perry Logan]

95. No one ever said rock is for geniuses.

[JerseygirlCT]

103. Is there a link I wonder

between the fact that political music is discouraged or outright blacklisted and the results of this survey?

Rock used to be one of the most effective protest devices around - a way of mobilizing and educating people. Are the voices (and they're still out there) being successfully stifled?

[L0oniX]

106. I'm calling BS on this one. Yahoo news? Puleeze. There's not one musician I know who will...

vote for a repuke except for a few old fart accordion players who just don't know any better and are close to dieing off anyway. Someone at Reuters has been smoking something and it ain't weed! F*ckin crack heads!

[DiverDave]

107. What bullshit

Yes I listen to "classic rock", but not so much anymore...sirius has moved me to other genre's...blues and bluegrass kick ass...Robert Johnson, anyone?

[fascisthunter]

108. Yet a Generation Ago Republicans Were Burning Records of Elvis

Right wing dorks.

[mudesi]

110. Not this one (nm)

[undeterred]

112. They have so few brain cells.

[Swede]

113. I find that hard to believe.

I love rock and would never think of voting for a rightwinger.

[Phoonzang]

115. Not surprsing

Everyone I've known who listens to "classic" rock tends to be white, male, and conservatives.

Kind of like this guy:



Since many of them think no good music has been made since the 60s and 70s, it's not surprising they're conservatives. Progress=bad.