WTF? - Death of Prisoner Justified If Interrogator Acted in 'Good Faith' While 'Brutally Torturing'

[kpete]

Headlined on 4/3/08:
Death of Prisoner Justified If Interrogator Acted in 'Good Faith,' Report Said

by Jason Leopold

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While Walker's report was being drafted, the group discussed 35 different interrogation techniques that could be used to obtain information from prisoners. The group settled on 24 of the 35 methods. 17 of which appeared in Army field manuals. Early drafts of the report advocated intimidating prisoners with dogs, removing prisoners' clothing, shaving their beards, slapping prisoners in the face and waterboarding. Still, the final set of methods, which included isolation, and "attacking or insulting the ego of a detainee", referred to as "pride and ego down" violated the Geneva Convention.

Still, more extreme interrogation methods that made it into the final draft of the report rankled some of the JAG's who participated in the working group. The military lawyers feared the methods would put U.S. soldiers in danger if they were captured and would tarnish the reputation and image of the U.S. abroad.

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"In order to respect the president's inherent constitutional authority to manage a military campaign . . . (the prohibition against torture) must be construed as inapplicable to interrogations undertaken pursuant to his commander-in chief authority," the report stated. The Justice Department could not prosecute military interrogators "who had acted pursuant to an exercise of the president's constitutional power."

Further, the report said if a prisoner died as a result of brutal interrogation technique the interrogator would not be subject to prosecution if he acted in "good faith" and attempted to save lives.

much more at:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/2/genera_jason_le_080403_death_of_prisoner_ju.htm

[ColbertWatcher]

1. "Good faith", meaning of course...

...while praying to the Christian God.

[Me.]

2. War Crime

Pure and simple. Just like the CIA, these guys better lawyer up. That also includes any doctors who checked the prisoner and said it was ok to continue torturing them.

[Solly Mack]

3. The "good faith" defense is the foundation justification for all the crimes of

the Bush admin.

[JAbuchan08]

10. and every other crime that has ever been commited

[Solly Mack]

13. Ever? by anyone?

Because I don't buy that at all.

[JAbuchan08]

14. Maybe a slight exaggeration

but most people who commit crimes believe that they can be justified somehow.
Nearly every criminal has "good intentions" whether they are revenging a precieved wrong against them or misinterpreting the law to benefit them.

I just felt that it's too easy to say that the Bush administration really truly believes that what they are doing is right and give them credit for that (even if you feel they should still be punished) when just about every criminal has had a similar rationalization for their crime.

[spanone]

4. conspiracy to commit war crimes...impeach impeach impeach impeach

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[Echo In Light]

12. Yes

[endarkenment]

5. Hmmm reminds me of a previous era

Villager: I got better...
Villagers: BURN HER anyway! BURN! BURN! BURN HER!
B: Quiet, quiet, quiet, QUIETA There are ways of *telling* whether she
is a witch!
Villagers: Are there? What? Tell us, then! Tell us!
B: Tell me. What do you do with witches?
V: BUUUURN!!!!! BUUUUUURRRRNN!!!!! You BURN them!!!! BURN!!
B: And what do you burn apart from witches?
Villager: More Witches!
Other Villager: Wood.
B: So. Why do witches burn?

(long silence)
(shuffling of feet by the villagers)

Villager: (tentatively) Because they're made of.....wood?
B: Goooood!
Other Villagers: oh yeah... oh....
B: So. How do we tell whether she is made of wood?
One Villager: Build a bridge out of 'er!
B: Aah. But can you not also make bridges out of stone?
Villagers: oh yeah. oh. umm...
B: Does wood sink in water?
One Villager: No! No, no, it floats!
Other Villager: Throw her into the pond!
Villagers: yaaaaaa!

http://www.skepticfiles.org/en001/monty19.htm

[marmar]

6. This administration loves death and bloodshed.....

..... This country is run by vampires.

[BlooInBloo]

7. Ugh. Can't trust anything Leopold says - especially if it's what we want to hear.

[Bandit]

8. It isn't torture if there isn't organ failure or death....D'oh

:shrug: War Crimes and just plain crimes against humanity..

[The Backlash Cometh]

9. Not surprised.

Locally, I think they successfully passed an ordinance, or possibly a state law, which said that utility taxes which were established incorrectly do not have to be paid back to the homeowners as long as the mistake was made in good faith.

Don't you just love the way the law is making heathens and barbarians out of all of us?

[formercia]

11. Junior's paradox

Junior says that he acted in good faith on the advise of counsel.
His attorneys say they acted in good faith under Presidential authority.

Everyone is acting in good faith.

This is why there needs to be a separation of Church and State. Faith belongs in Church.