I'm looking for a neoconservative quote, I can't remember who it was

[billyoc]

who said it, but it was along the lines of "...we make history...you can't do anything but report on what we do..."

I know it's not much to go on, but if anyone can recall the speaker, I'd appreciate it. :hi:

[elizfeelinggreat]

1. here's one

qutoe:

The aide said that guys like me were ''in what we call the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magazine/17BUSH.html

[Zorra]

4. I hope before I die I see the neocons experiencing the reality of life in prison

for treason and crimes against humanity.

[elizfeelinggreat]

5. you're not alone

in wishing for that

[zonmoy]

7. only if its a maximum security or supermax.

figure that the killers and rapists will have good ideas as to what to do to them.

[axollot]

11. The Hauge is where they belong.

Besides, in max security - or the supermax in the very least, they don't get to have contact with other inmates. They spend their time watching tv in their cells 23 hours a day with one hour alone in a fenced in small area for 'rec' time.

[zonmoy]

12. for me anyplace that has them in high security lockdown is good enough

although having them living with murderers and rapists would be a bonus for me.

[billyoc]

6. That's the one, thanks much.

:hi:

[axollot]

10. DAAAAAAAAYM......I hadn't seen that article....

I read the NYT just about every day but I missed that article. However, it confirms what I already had thought regarding the shrub.

Thank god some of the things he was so certain about doing, such as, privatizing social security - never came to pass.

Told hubby the other day, one of Bushes biggest legacies, the only really 'good' thing that he has done will be that he paved the way for the first time in history for a woman and a black man to have a REAL chance at being in the White House. (and most likely will - IMHO)

I just don't like how he did it.

Cheers
Sandy

[ck4829]

2. Quoted from a "senior Bush adviser", nothing else

Ron Suskind recounts a conversation with a senior Bush adviser in the summer of 2002, who noted that people such as Suskind were "in what we call the reality-based community." When Suskind attempted a reply, the adviser replied: "That's not the way the world really works anymore. . . . We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality judiciously, as you will we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/003432.php

[Cooley Hurd]

3. It was an unnamed Bush official in Paul O'Neill's book, I believe...

The co-author of the O'Neill book, Ron Suskind, wrote about it in a piece for the NYT (via Truthout):

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

[bdamomma]

8. I found this comment very interesting.

again we all know what a psychotic man * really is.

''This is why George W. Bush is so clear-eyed about Al Qaeda and the Islamic fundamentalist enemy. He believes you have to kill them all. They can't be persuaded, that they're extremists, driven by a dark vision. He understands them, because he's just like them. . . .


this man needs to be locked up, enough with all speculation and he lives in bubble, and is out of touch, this man is truly mad and needs psychiatric and psychological help. Don't you wish you could just scream that out to those in DC?

[Mist]

9. The enablers are far more guilty than the madman. nt

[bdamomma]

13. should we be considered his enablers also??

[axollot]

14. I don't think that is what they meant......

those closest to him that refuse to speak out and stop the madness. They know he's mad but if they get the coin they DON'T CARE what he's doing to the country.

We aren't enabling him, I've never voted for him and I have *never* supported his administration, as many here haven't. Even those that may have joined us during his administration, that could have voted for him in the past but 'get it' now, are not enabling him or his ilk.

[Mist]

16. Not unless you voted for him, or worked in FL and OH to game the vote! nt

[WHAT]

15. ledeen...

it's on after downing street somewhere...