No more Air America for me

[proud2BlibKansan]

I only listen for Randi and Rachel. Rachel is getting her own show on MSNBC. So I don't need to listen anymore. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted. But then they got rid of all the good hosts. Randi and Rachel were the only good ones left. I am not a big Sam Seder fan. I do wish him well though.

My XM subscription is up for renewal but without Randi I see no reason to pay for it. Who needs progressive radio anyway? We have Rush. And he supports Hillary! :)

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

1. I thought Randi was suspended

not fired, right?

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. Doesn't look good

I won't be listening until she is back on the air. If she doesn't come back, I won't be listening.

[orleans]

37. sam did a good part of the show today on randi

http://server7.whiterosesociety.org/content/rhodes/RhodesShow-(4-4-2008).mp3

janeane garofalo and brent budowsky (sp?) were on at about 11 minutes into the second hour of the show today.

air america helped me decide not to sign up as a member--i was going to sign up after i saw ben burch got the "memo" saying he couldn't archive her show--but, for whatever reason, he is able to keep archiving for the time being. that's how i got the link here.

but, in the future--if they are going to pull this sort of shit with her, then forget it. i'll listen to her on the radio and if i miss a show and can't get it through whiterose then oh well.

air america is fucked up. i won't be buying into that corporate crap for sure.

[Riverman]

3. Anyboy know what happened to Talk 1240 AM in Sacramento?

Went from airing Ed Schultze, Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy to playing gospel and and black spiritual music non-stop? I was out of town for two weeks and now no local progressive radio on the AM dial. Have no clue about Rando Rhodes on Air America.

[BrotherBuzz]

5. The reason? Economics.

KSAC (1240 AM) adopting gospel format

Nationally syndicated talk show host Mike Malloy just called to confirm that the KSAC (1240 AM) rumors are true:

The station is changing to a gospel format Monday morning.

"I got the call from (KSAC general manager) Paula Nelson today -- she told me it broke her heart to have to make the change," Malloy says.

The Atlanta-based talk show host, whose show has been carried daily on the station, says he first heard about the switch earlier this week via his boss, Nova M Radio CEO John Manzo.

Manzo, on the phone from Phoenix, also confirms the switch.

The reason? Economics.

"They don't have the revenue to support the format," Manzo says.

Malloy put it in even clearer terms.

"It's not a ratings thing -- we have plenty of listeners," Malloy says. "KSAC is experiencing what most other liberal talk show format stations are experiencing - it's not a lack of audience, it's a lack of business support."

In other words, not enough advertising dollars.

Big-name, deep-pocketed businesses, Malloy says, are turned off by the station's progressive format.

"If you listen to Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity, you'll hear (plenty) of national ads," he says. "If you listen to someone like me or Randi Rhodes, there's a complete lack of those types of sponsors."

It's a problem plaguing liberal talk radio in markets across the United States, he adds, noting that stations in San Francisco and San Diego have been forced to make similar changes.

http://www.sacbee.com/102/story/820109.html

Christine Craft is back at KGO 810 tonight at 10pm to 1am.

[bbgrunt]

17. there has been considerable question about

corporate and right wing efforts to keep advertisers away from liberal talk radio support. Face it: Liberal and progressive ideas are basically anti-corporate. If we want to hear true liberal voices we will have to contribute $ as listeners because as Mike has explained, the big buck liberals refuse to support it because they can't control it.

[proud2BlibKansan]

6. No idea

But yes, we are losing progressive radio.

[jgraz]

4. "Rachel is getting her own show on MSNBC"????

Where did you hear that?

[proud2BlibKansan]

7. A couple days ago

And she is hosting Keith's show tomorrow.

[jgraz]

20. Huh, I can't find anything on that.

:shrug:

[TheWraith]

34. Neither can I. I think this may be a rumor.

Although if they were giving her her own show, having her sub for Keith tonight would be a really good way to introduce her to the audience.

[Breeze54]

8. I can't listen anyway since they changed the website but it

says Randi is suspended, not fired on the AAR website.

She used the F Bomb during a stand up routine and is suspended for that? :wtf:

I can't listen at all anymore on the internet. What the hell is up with that?

FUCK!!

[Breeze54]

9. Here is the link to the Randi Rhodes video of that stand up routine

"Randi's suspension

'Randi Rhodes Suspended!!! Speech (short version)'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXYHvbFl3A

Here is the link to the Randi Rhodes video. Careful of the strong language. :eyes:

This needs to be seen, and discussed to support Randi."

By soundtracking

[walldude]

10. Man if they fire her

I'm also done with AAR. They took Thom Hartmann off days in my market, they had him off altogether but we forced them to bring him back. NOw if I find out that DU was involved in getting her fired while leaving Limbaugh, Coulter, Beck, O'Reilly, etc alone, I'm going to have some issues with coming here as well..

[Breeze54]

11. DU wasn't in San Francisco on Mar. 22nd; so I doubt DU had anything to do with it.

:shrug:

[walldude]

12. Go to GDP, hillary supporters are petitioning

AAR to fire her... no joke.

edit: leave bread crumbs.. it's hard to find your way back to DU from that place..

[liberal1973]

13. Then give support to Randi

[walldude]

16. Already done...

[Breeze54]

14. Oh brother....

:eyes:

Thanks for the heads up.

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. Yes they even wrote a letter!

Which gave me an idea for a poll.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3103039&mesg_id=3103039

[walldude]

18. You gotta wonder what they are thinking..

All this "dead to me" stuff is going to kill them if by some odd occurrence Hillary gets the nod. The best they are going to get is half hearted support from the left. If they were so sure she was going to get the nod wouldn't the prudent course be to try to unify everyone instead of alienating them?

[Marr]

23. They don't want the support of the left.

Seriously. Most of the Hillary supporters I've read seem to have more venom for the left wing of their own party than for the Republican Party. As a general trend I think they actually *want* to exorcise the more liberal wing.

Of course, that won't stop them from blaming the left for Hillary's inevitable loss, if she should manage to take the nomination by some means.

[proud2BlibKansan]

24. They aren't thinking

The narcissism has destroyed their brain cells.

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. By any means, even if that means we commit hara kiri

by the way, what they might be thinking is 2012

As is.. I don't care for any of the candidates, but at this point it is truly the lesser of the three evils...

This is a horror movie, and I fear at this point if she manages to get the nom by any means, it will be four more years
of the same, regardless of which one wins...

Corporate party, meet corporate party... .and I HATE to have to write this.

But the mask has come off from the DLC

[bbgrunt]

19. good god! If these Hilbots don't split the party, they'll die trying.

[liberal1973]

21. It's funny

I read a DailyKos diary three weeks ago that had mentioned somethings about MyDD becoming like freeperville. So I went to the site and damn it was surreal. They were loving on O'liely and McBush. These people are extremist there is no other way to put it.

They are not Democrats and no way in heck liberals.

[Tarheel_Dem]

22. Stephanie Miller hinted at this, because Hillary supporters have

been targeting her bosses, and her sponsors, trying to get her kicked off the air. I never thought I'd see it, but the Hillary folk have joined with the rightwing to take down liberal media (what there is of it). Who do they think will defend Hillary against the rightwing noise machine if she gets the nomination?

Anyone who doesn't worship at the Clinton altar is being targeted. How does this unite the party? And, I'm sorry, but people have long memories...and the people in media haven't forgotten the David Schuster suspension which was orchestrated by the Clintonites. This is leaving a very bad taste in my mouth, they are definitely trying to rid the party of the "liberal" left.

[proud2BlibKansan]

25. BINGO!!

You nailed it. :applause:

[riverdeep]

26. They've got a scorched earth policy going against everyone who doesn't support Hillary.

If she's not getting the Presidency, then no one on the Dem side is. Shows that have taken years to develop and grow an audience and have been instrumental in providing a push-back against the right-wing scream machine are being pitched overboard in a huff because they have the temerity to go against Hillary. I'm seeing things that I never thought I'd see. It's like one of those horror movies where people who you thought were one way, pull off the masks and turn out to be some monstrous nightmare.

I think what Randi said was over the line, and a suspension was warranted, but firing her is extreme, not to mention thoroughly stupid for AAR's already stupid business plan. If it happens, hope she gets on Jones Radio Network, that where Stephanie is too.

[Tarheel_Dem]

28. just hope she doesn't have to be in the same room with Big Eddie...

they hate each other. But Randi is great friends with the founders of NovaM, so I think she'll be fine. If she does return to AAR after this, I think her ratings will soar, because most "Democrats" don't like censorship.

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. at this point I don't think what some define as democrats care for

free speech or any of those pre Sept 11 ideas.

[hlthe2b]

27. Rachel is not getting her own show, only subbing for Keith Friday

Sorry to disappoint.... I adore Sam Seder as well....

What makes you conclude that R. Rhodes is permanently gone from AAR and not simply suspended, proud2blib?

[Swamp Rat]

29. I listen to Rachael on Nova M Radio.

She's on right now. :)

[madrchsod]

30. it`s a purge of the progressive left

it`s been going on since hillary started losing. it is only going to get worse

[TriggerGal]

31. PETITION to Reinstate Randi

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/reinstaterandi

[Manifestor_of_Light]

32. I have XM because we have no progressive talk in Houston, the 4th largest city in the US.

We have Pacifica, fortunately, but that's not the same.

XM I hate this!!! :banghead:

[TriggerGal]

33. I miss Randi

Here's what others are saying about it ...

Sam Seder:

I’ll be filling in for Randi again tomorrow and maybe a couple of days next week. I spoke to Randi today before subbing for her. I’m not going to characterize her feelings- it’s not my place to do that.It’s true that I feel Randi has taught me nearly all that I know about radio and consider her a friend but that hasn’t affected my perspective on this.

Personally, I think this is ridiculous. That said, I do believe that the network has the right to take issue with it.

It’s a stand up routine- and it offended none of the people who paid to see it.... No one else had to watch that tape - it wasn’t presented on the airwaves, etc etc....Would I have used the words she did, no, but I can’t promise that they would be any less "offensive".

Anyway, I have no idea how long the suspension will be or when we will know or why it’s not set. I’m willing to sub for Randi but I don’t like the circumstances. I certainly don’t want someone sitting in her seat who’s going to be a management toady.


Stephanie Miller Sticks up for Randi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xB1JZ__TV_Q


Janeane Garofalo sticks up for Randi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDYsWZnWtXs


Exercise YOUR right to freedom of speech - Let your voice be heard!!!

Petition to reinstate Randi: http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/reinstaterandi

EMAIL Air America: [e-mail]

[BlooInBloo]

35. I for one don't think we need progressive radio...

... Seems to me that those who insist on it are just aping conservatives, and advocating for an old obsolete technology.

EDIT: Would it be nice to have? Sure. But it's not very important, given the currently used progressive modes of communication and information dissemination.

[Robb]

36. Interesting point

I've wondered why radio as well ... especially if most people won't get it without a paid XM subscription.

Of course, I'm a buggy whip advocate. :)

[BlooInBloo]

38. :) There's also no pressing need for progressive sundials.

[undeterred]

39. We need it desperately.

People don't know that conservative radio is right wing- they think its "fair and balanced". They have no alternative. Not everyone has a computer, and some people spend hours every day in a vehicle.

[BlooInBloo]

43. (shrug) We disagree.

[ConsAreLiars]

40. Don't buy into the "Dump our imperfect allies/ family members" divide-and-conquer BS.

I do a little to support several orgs. None of them are perfect, I suppose, and I know that my judgment about what might be perfect is certainly imperfect. So I just try to help a little bit in promoting/assisting whatever I can that is simply better, if not perfect. But if you want to take that $100 and put it somewhere else, consider Nova M Radio, where the original vision of what AAR might become is being given a second try.