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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:35 AM
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More Than 1,000 in Iraq’s Forces Quit Basra Fight and Desert
More Than 1,000 in Iraq’s Forces Quit Basra Fight

By STEPHEN FARRELL and JAMES GLANZ
Published: April 4, 2008


BAGHDAD — More than 1,000 Iraqi soldiers and policemen either refused to fight or simply abandoned their posts during the inconclusive assault against Shiite militias in Basra last week, a senior Iraqi government official said Thursday. Iraqi military officials said the group included dozens of officers, including at least two senior field commanders in the battle.

The desertions in the heat of a major battle cast fresh doubt on the effectiveness of the American-trained Iraqi security forces. The White House has conditioned further withdrawals of American troops on the readiness of the Iraqi military and police.

The crisis created by the desertions and other problems with the Basra operation was serious enough that Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki hastily began funneling some 10,000 recruits from local Shiite tribes into his armed forces. That move has already generated anger among Sunni tribesmen whom Mr. Maliki has been much less eager to recruit despite their cooperation with the government in its fight against Sunni insurgents and criminal gangs.

A British military official said that Mr. Maliki had brought 6,600 reinforcements to Basra to join the 30,000 security personnel already stationed there, and a senior American military official said that he understood that 1,000 to 1,500 Iraqi forces had deserted or underperformed. That would represent a little over 4 percent of the total.

A new National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq cites significant security improvements but concludes that security remains fragile, several American government officials said.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/04/world/middleeast/04iraq.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&oref=slogin
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 06:56 AM
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1. This is exhibit one in why McCain is delusional in his insistence
that we remain in Iraq.

And here is exhibit 2. From the Washington Post:

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The offensive, which triggered clashes across southern Iraq and in Baghdad that left about 600 people dead, unveiled the weaknesses of Maliki's U.S.-backed government and his brash style of leadership. On many levels, the offensive strengthened the anti-American Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.

The United States has spent more than $22 billion to build up Iraq's security forces, but they were unable to quell the militias. Hundreds of Iraqi soldiers and police deserted the fighting, a senior Iraqi military official said. Maliki had to call on U.S. and British commanders for support. In some areas, such as Sadr's Baghdad stronghold of Sadr City, U.S. forces took the lead in fighting the cleric's Mahdi Army militiamen.

And it was Iran that helped broker an end to the clashes, enhancing its image and illustrating its influence over Iraq's political players.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/03/AR2008040300309.html?hpid=topnews
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:03 AM
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2. Guess we are not paying them enough. Can we get Bush to
raise their pay?:banghead:
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:05 AM
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3. so is that 1000+ more 'opposition' fighters weve trained and armed?
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