Say "Goodbye Moses" = RIP: Charlton Heston

[L. Coyote]

Caught a banner on CBS. Now to choose the appropriate words.

A wise politician once told me,
"Don't worry that old voters won't change, they will die."

Pry that out of my hands!

LOL on edit. It's RIP, not RSVP LOL
No need to reply ... LOL

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. Did he die?

[scarletwoman]

4. Apparently he sent out party invitations...

[Fenris]

7. It's very rude to die before a party.

[scarletwoman]

20. Not if it's a Soylent Green dinner party.

Then it's de rigueur.

Or is it rigor... (rim shot)

[Jazzgirl]

27. LOL!@

n/t

[Rosemary2205]

49. DUZY

[scarletwoman]

2. "RSVP"???? Are we supposed to write to him? (nt)

[JohnnyLib2]

5. LOL. Symptoms of GD:P stress disorder

:hi:

[Blue_In_AK]

6. Rest Submerged Very Privately.

:shrug:

[scarletwoman]

11. Ah. A burial at sea.

:rofl:

[Jazzgirl]

28. Oh...shit!!!

[TomInTib]

8. No, but if we hear back from him....

I am going to totally realign my way of thinking.

[supernova]

3. RSVP??

He's having a dinner party?

[TomInTib]

13. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3112475&mesg_id=3112501

[eShirl]

9. breaking on msnbc.com just now

[asthmaticeog]

10. You DO mean "R.I.P.", right?

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=43731

[Fenris]

14. Maybe they need to know how much cheese to purchase for the funeral reception?

:shrug:

[asthmaticeog]

17. Cheese, soylent green, and hopefully lots of saltpeter.

[Fenris]

21. Time to fucking party!

[L. Coyote]

22. Heston is partying with Falwell now.

[Stinky The Clown]

12. RSVP Regrets, Chuck ........

You Schmuck

Fuck

You Suck

Chuck

[TomInTib]

15. On the money, Buddy.

Rest in the Hottest Parts of Hell, motherfucker.

You and Saint Ronnie can just toast your asses on the fucking brimstone while jerking each other off.

My fucking regards, fuck,
Tom

[BestCenter]

31. Thanks for turning DU into the liberal version of Free Republic

not.

[Stinky The Clown]

48. Give it a rest, Mr Concerned

How do you know about Free Republic?

Just askin' .......

[BestCenter]

64. Because I am on the internet.

And I can look things up on Wikipedia and/or Google.

[DissedByBush]

68. I just looked him up, some surprises there

I didn't know Heston picketed against segregation and marched with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in 1963.

[scarletwoman]

16. No fair editing! It was better the first way.

:(

[L. Coyote]

19. I'm still on the floor laughing. I'll have to use that for my funeral notices!

I'm dead. Can you make it? RSVP

[scarletwoman]

23. And what will you use for the return address?

:D

[L. Coyote]

26. Okay, now you have me stumped.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

25. I'm laughing my butt off here!

I missed the original error but I caught on after reading the thread.

You should have left it. It was 100% DUzy material! :thumbsup: :rofl:

[defendandprotect]

18. Moses get your gun, get your gun , get your gun . . . Sad ---

I'm sure he was a nice guy personally ---
Politically he was an ass ---

I'll never forget the interview with him in Michael Moore's movie . . .

[BestCenter]

29. You mean when he had Alzheimer's?

Sure you don't like his political stances, but you can't really accuse him of anything in the interview other than being old and doddering.

[defendandprotect]

30. You mean he didn't understand what Michael Moore was saying

to him---???

I doubt that Michael Moore would have done an interview under those circumstances ---
if he had known.

Meanwhile, Heston long before adopted some very right-wing authoritarian positions ---

[BestCenter]

33. I don't dispute that Michael Moore is a gifted filmmaker

"I doubt that Michael Moore would have done an interview under those circumstances ---
if he had known."

But he hasn't exactly been as much of a truth-teller as he makes himself to be. I don't think he's above framing a scene to make his interviewee look foolish.

Like when he sprang up on Dick Clark in that same movie. What's up with that? How could Dick Clark have left that scene without looking like a complete heartless bastard? Moore didn't ask for an interview, accosted him when he was in the middle of something... that scene was a total-set up.

[defendandprotect]

37. Well . . . you still haven't said whether you think MM knew . . . or not --- ???

Your personal animosities aside . . .

Was it or was it not generally known that Heston had Alzheimer's at that time?
Has MM ever said subsequently that he found out later --- ??

[BestCenter]

46. What?

Was that what you were trying to ask? I hold no animosities towards Moore. Anyways, Heston announced his Alzheimer's in 2002. The movie premiered that year. Decide for yourself.

[defendandprotect]

71. That still doesn't say that MM knew --- in fact, I would presume that the

interview and preparation for the film would have taken place before Heston's announcement ---

No --- I don't see MM as the kind of guy who would want to sabotage a guy with Alzheimer's . .

But he hasn't exactly been as much of a truth-teller as he makes himself to be. I don't think he's above framing a scene to make his interviewee look foolish.

Like when he sprang up on Dick Clark in that same movie. What's up with that? How could Dick Clark have left that scene without looking like a complete heartless bastard? Moore didn't ask for an interview, accosted him when he was in the middle of something... that scene was a total-set up.

No animosity for MM --- ???

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

53. Well how nice for you

to be sure that someone who fought for civil rights was 'a nice guy'....

[alarimer]

62. He didn't fight for civil rights- he worked for the gun lobby

That wants unfettered access to guns so we have more shootings, death and destruction. The NRA is NOT a civil rights organization. They are lobbyists for the gun industry.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

67. Oh so that was somone in a heston disguise marching with

King in the 60's?

[DissedByBush]

69. Have you looked at Wikipedia?

The picture on his Wikipedia entry is from the 1963 Civil Rights March.

[sergeiAK]

70. He was a civil rights activist prior to his NRA work

As to the idea that the 2nd Amendment is not a civil right, I think it being included in the Bill of Rights might be a clue as to whether it is or not.

And the NRA gets a vast majority of its money from its members and their donations. The entire firearms industry is ~1/6th the size of McDonalds alone, so calling them a huge lobby is a bit misleading. There are lobbyists in DC for the firearms industry (Ruger and S&W have quite a few), but the NRA isn't one of them.

[tishaLA]

24. In honor of Chuck

who deserves no honor...

Ten Things I Hate About Commandments

[MarkovChaney]

52. Re: In honor of Chuck

That is REALLY funny. Made my morning. Thanks.

[shawn8]

32. Why so much hate on this site

a very beloved actor has passed away. Lots of cheaps hots toward a dead guy doncha think?

[L. Coyote]

34. Why say there is hate?

[shawn8]

35. the guy just died

I mean its not like he was neocon or anything. He was just pro gun

[scarletwoman]

36. Read posts #12 & #15. Pretty hateful, imho.

I don't hold any animus toward Charlton Heston. I thought he was kind of a cheesy actor -- but in a good, fun way.

And his NRA thing -- so late in his life when it seemed clear that he was already exhibiting symptons of Alzheimers -- didn't make me think he was some kind of embodiment of evil. He was actually a civil rights activist in the 60s.

I think hurling obscenities at a dead person is really quite ugly and vulgar.

sw

[shawn8]

38. Agreed Scarlett woman

To be honest I'm an left of center liberal and I usually post on a conservative site and I tell them they are the party of hate. It seems folks here are proving them right tonight.

[L. Coyote]

55. This is why we have the Ignore button. Some of us do not see some of the posters here

and are much happier now.

Certain posters besmear thread after thread ad nauseum,
and DU is more tolerable if you do not see their posts.

[scarletwoman]

59. You asked me a question, I gave you my answer. What the hell has the ignore button to do with

any of it? I was taking issue with a specific behavior, not any particular poster.

[L. Coyote]

63. Those of us using the Ignore button do not see all the posts/posters.

I guess I'm filtering the hate. Missing those post sounds like no loss.

[garybeck]

41. he wasn't JUST an actor

if he was only an actor there wouldn't be criticism. once you stick your neck out and get into political issues, which he did, you invite both praise and criticism.

[scarletwoman]

42. Criticism is one thing -- hurling obscenities at a corpse is something else. (nt)

[Stinky The Clown]

50. I guess you missed the pissing and dancing ceremonies

[scarletwoman]

58. No I haven't. I've been here for 7 years, I've seen plenty of grave pissing & grave dancing.

I find much of it unseemly and unworthy of so-called "liberals". For certain departed persons who committed particularly heinous acts in life such as mass-murder (Reagan) or destruction of our Constitution (Rehnquist, Falwell), a certain amount of satisfaction at their demise is not unwarranted.

But to indulge in base maliciousness toward someone who wielded no great power over the lives of others seems just plain crude and ugly to me.

Charlton Heston may have become a wrongheaded fool in his later years, but he was not an inherently evil person. I'm old enough to remember when he championed ML King and the civil rights movement in the 60s. I don't think he deserves the spitefulness expressed in this thread.

YMMV

[muryan]

44. well you can weigh being pro gun

against marching with Dr. King and being labeled a communist for doing so. I think thats a pretty easy one... at least it is for me.

RIP

[5LeavesLeft]

54. I'm tolerant

and respectful of all people and opinions. But if you disagree with me on anything, ANYTHING, I will piss on your fucking grave. I am a kind and loving person, so anyone who disagrees with me is therefore evil. Let's call Fred Phelps and go protest at Heston's funeral!

[baby_mouse]

47. Have to side with you here, shawn.

In the past on DU I have joined in on grave-dancing where I think the death has actually released the world from a burden. But I don't think that applies to the death of Chuck.

[Guaranteed]

39. I think Michael Moore should have been nicer to him.

Bowling for Columbine was such an amazing movie, but that one Heston part just makes me cringe. I still can't believe Moore did that to him.

[MS68]

56. I agree!

As I posted on another grave dancing thread - he let a stranger into his home and treated him very graciously and MM made a fool out of him. But I loved Bowling for Colombine - except for that part - didn't care for it all. I thought it was pretty cool that he let him into his home.

[Jack Rabbit]

40. RIP

This is America. Heston didn't need my permission to what he thought right. Most of us simply had a different idea what that was.

Let him rest.

[americanstranger]

43. I have one question:

Who's gonna go pry the gun out of his cold, dead hand?

Sorry. Somebody had to ask.

- as

[Eric Condon]

45. The thing about Heston

is that he used to be a HUGE liberal. I mean, Reagan was originally a Democrat too, but Heston was like, a full-tilt, all-out liberal. Anti-war, pro-gun control, marched with civil rights leaders, you name it. It's just that like so many of Hollywood's old guard, at some point in the '70s/'80s he turned into a conservative wacko.

As far as I'm concerned, I like to put politics aside when it comes to Charlton Heston, and enjoy the things that really matter:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6u76_KsEo4M

[MarkovChaney]

51. Screw him

He was a decent actor, but as a human being, the world is not worse off for his passing. I generally try to eschew "dance on your grave" posts, but in this case I'll make an exception: what a douche.

[Gloria]

57. And young voters get old and they die, too!

If not sooner from accidents and miscellaneous behaviors...

Really, you better wise up if you are a "young voter"....

[stimbox]

60. Boots from The Coup said it best!

Uhhhh!!
I wanna piss on your grave!
make me feel alright!
Yaa Yaa Yaa!!

[Joey Liberal]

61. Sorry Moses, you can't have a gun in Heaven - Go to Hell n/t

[L. Coyote]

65. And GOD said, "I'm sorry young man, if you can't pry that from your hand, I can't let you in."

Good point! LOL! Why did he have to die first to see the irony in this? Now we can't tell him in time.

[Joey Liberal]

66. It wouldn't have mattered to Heston (Moses)

He was such a hard head. He was a great actor, but to me, its just one less right wing wacko.