Does anyone else find it disturbing that Shrub has been trying to get a missile "defense"

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

program in eastern European countries? How much longer is he going to be in office???

Another part of PNAC's Rebuilding America's Defenses -

http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&p=rebuilding+america%27s+defenses&sado=1&fr=moz2&u=www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf&w=rebuilding+america%27s+defenses+defences&d=Ru7wVvH_QlJ2&icp=1&.intl=us

DEVELOP AND DEPLOY GLOBAL MISSILE DEFENSES
to defend the American homeland and
American allies, and to provide a secure basis for U.S. power projection around the world.

[flor de jasmim]

1. yes, also the threat of calling Martial Law (reservists under his control), etc.

There are days I feel I won't breathe easily (politically speaking) until some time after a Democrat is sworn in next January.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

2. I feel pretty much the same.

[rpannier]

3. What worries me the most about all of this is...

Everything he has done, in terms of foreign policy, has been a staggering failure.
I could see a scenario where those missile systems wind up under the control of a nation or organization that is hostile to this country.

I see no useful purpose this serves, other than putting money in the pockets of more war-industrialists.
It has antagonized the Russians no end.
It protects eastern Europe from nothing.
It does nothing to make the United States more secure.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

5. When I added the snippet from Rebuilding America's Defenses, it was for a purpose.

It is a blueprint that he is following to a T. It is all about American Hegemony and Controlling this planet.

If you haven't read Rebuilding, please do. To make it easier to access I gave the link for the HTML version but the PDF is easier to read.

www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

You have to realize that this was drawn-up by the Neocons.. AKA The Crazies...

[rpannier]

10. Thanks for the read

BTW: Great looking cats

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

12. YW! I read this well before we went to war with Iraq and knew that it was inevitable.

As to my kitties! Thank you! :)

[soothsayer]

4. Eh, just setting up things to continue to suck the treasure out of our coffers long after he's gone.

[Mr Rabble]

7. Absolutely correct.

This is really just a way to loot the treasury.

There are significant risks with such a system however, as it could very easily malfunction.

However, this has very little to do with "defense".

[Strelnikov_]

6. Simply ensuring military contracts for the crony capitalists

Who cares if it works. All that matters is that you get paid.

Welfare for the wealthy and connected.

[scarletwoman]

8. It's part of "Full Spectrum Dominance".

I don't have time this morning (getting ready to leave for work) to look up and post links, but people need to be aware that this whole "missile defense" thing is ultimately about weaponizing space. It's much more sinister than most people suspect.

sw

[Echo In Light]

13. Far more sinister than what many are willing to face and accept despite the past several yrs

Never underestimate the power of denial.

[bobthedrummer]

23. Remember all those "military" shuttle missions during Reagan's SDI era?

Meanwhile, on BFEE's Homeworld (tm), there is the Vulcans agenda-fronted by Richard Bruce Cheney et al.

"Prevent the Reemergence of a New Rival: The Making of the Cheney Regional Defense Strategy, 1991-1992" (National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book 245)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nukevault/ebb245/index.htm

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

24. I'm sure this graphic gives you the warm fuzzies

[scarletwoman]

25. Derived from the Romulans, I think.

Of course, the motto sounded better in the original German: Uber Alles.

sw

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

26. Thank you for the history lesson. I had no idea the Germans used that moto. Why am I not

surprised?

PS...Love your Goddess. I used to sell pendants of her. Kind of reminds me of me when I (dare to) look in the mirror! :)

[scarletwoman]

27. We are sisters, then.

:hug:

I really appreciate you starting this thread. And, yeah, the German thing has spooked me right from the first time I saw that logo.

There's so much creepy shit going down, I wonder how we can ever counter it. But I firmly believe in what my sig line says. We just have to keep being active in the good -- no matter what.

Peace,
sw

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

31. Hi sister!

:hug: right back!

I had to start this thread. All the references that we seemed to be getting about Shrub's eastern European trip was through "caption" threads, and at least I didn't see any threads that discussed WTF was he doing there in trying to talk these countries into hosting our killing machines.

Although there is so much darkness, I live my life day to day and try to be the best human I can be. Sometimes my patience is tried, but in the wise words of Dr. King.

Another :hug:

The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing that it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it.

Through violence you may murder the liar, but you cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth. Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder the hate. So it goes.

Returning violence for violence multiples violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that.

Hate cannot drive out hate, only love can do that.

[bobthedrummer]

30. Right Web profile: The Rumsfeld Space Commission

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/2820.html

[formercia]

9. It won't work

The Russians have already said they would throw everything at us at once and overwhelm it. What little effectiveness it would have would be offset by the massive overkill.

Junior will have his Armageddon, even if it kills us all.

[SpiralHawk]

11. Chickenhawk republicons are INADEQUATE

And so pathetically imagine that Big Missiles will somehow compensate for their inadequacies...

[Mnemosyne]

28. You know what 'they' say Spiral, "Big missiles, tiny

brains." :evilgrin:

[Preening Fop]

14. So naturally expected of a corporate controlled Imperial Empire.....

:nuke: :hide: :nuke:

[endarkenment]

15. Yeah I've gathered that the Russians find this very disturbing.

The system, if it works and if it is deployed, breaks mad guarantees and destabilizes the nuclear standoff. It forces Russia to build counter measures and to redeploy their offensive systems in order to restore parity.

[formercia]

17. The Russians consider it part of a first-strike system

designed to pick off straggler launches from a first-strike.

No matter what Junior says, the Russians have to consider the worst-case scenario.

[endarkenment]

20. Correct - which it is why it is dangerously destabilizing.

The Russian (and Chinese as we deploy in asia) response will be to build and deploy many more mobile launch system on land and sea to guarantee a survivable deterrent force.

[formercia]

21. Besides the fact that Junior is a certifiable liar.

The fact that he will knowingly engage in a War of aggression under false pretenses doesn't help either.

[TreasonousBastard]

16. Yeah, pretty much everyone who's looked at the idea, but...

even though it was a stupid idea when Reagan first pushed it, it just won't die.

"It's not aimed at Russia," shrub keeps saying to try to shut Putin up.

OK, then who is it aimed at?

Iran, they say.

OK, so we put up a missile shield in Poland to protect us from Iran?

and so it goes...

Don't blame it just on neocons, though. Congresscritters of all stripes have pieces of this pork being built in their districts and will never vote to cut local jobs in these times.

[bdamomma]

18. it's all part of their diabolical plan.

damn neo cons, they all need to be in jail.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

22. And one of the main authors of PNAC, Doug Feith was given a national voice last night on 60 Minutes.

These people were born without souls.

I can see how it all started. Outcast adolescents, playing the game Risk and deciding this is what they wanted to do for the rest of their lives. Take control of the world. No thought to the consequence of their actions, and the lives they will destroy along their way. Ironically, like Risk, once the war/battle is won, there are no plans on what to do with the country once you've conquered it, ala Iraq..... sick little minds.

Meanwhile, when you understand the breadth of their plan, believing MIHOP is not outrageous. What are 3,000 lives to them. Nothing!

[Orwellian_Ghost]

19. K&R

n/t

[tuckessee]

29. What do Hillary & Barak have to say about this? n/t