Interesting. December 21, 2012.

[lonestarnot]

By some amazing coincidence, not only will we be intersecting with the Galactic Equator, but we will be doing this precisely aligned with the center of the Galaxy where there is maximum mass! More mass means more gravity. More gravity means more influence from those barycenters in our Sun. That means exponential increases in solar disruptions -- all coinciding on the same day! Whew!


Tee hee: Did the Hopi go UNDERGROUND (my emphasis) to survive a similar event thousands of years earlier? Should we be going UNDERGROUND also? LOL

http://www.viewzone.com/endtime.html

From comments section:

Physicists Find Evidence For Highest Energy Photons Ever Detected From Milky Way's Equator

(ScienceDaily) - Physicists at nearly a dozen research institutions, including New York University, have discovered evidence for very high energy gamma rays emitting from the Milky Way, marking the highest energies ever detected from the galactic equator. Their findings, published in the Dec. 16 issue of the Physical Review of Letters, were obtained using the Milagro Gamma Ray Observatory, a new detector located near Los Alamos, N.M., that allows monitoring of the northern sky on a 24-hour, 7-day-per-week basis.

Gamma rays are considered by scientists to be the best probe of cosmic rays outside the solar neighborhood.

The research team, which includes nearly 40 physicists, reported that Milagro, positioned at an altitude of 8600 feet in the Jemez Mountains, detected a signal along the galactic equator region and interpreted it as arising from gamma rays with a median energy of 3.5 trillion electron-volts, or 3500 times the mass-energy of a proton. Previous satellite experiments have seen gamma-ray emissions along the galactic equator reaching up to energies of only 30 billion electron-volts.

[rurallib]

1. Wow - can this be used in our War on Christmas?

[lonestarnot]

2. LOL. Is that an actual war or an occupation?

[cliffordu]

3. I heard it was just a peacekeeping mission......

:hi:

[lonestarnot]

4. Oh I see. That's why deaths are going unreported then.

:hi:

[cliffordu]

5. LOL!!!

Perfect!!!

:hi:

[lonestarnot]

6. And another cloudless day.

:patriot:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. That's an amazing coincidence.

At least it would be, if the sun hadn't already crossed the "galactic equator" back in 1997.

[lonestarnot]

8. At last someone that knows.

How often is this suppose to happen?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

10. Depends on what you're talking about.

The galactic equator crosses the ecliptic at about 270 degrees longitude. The sun precesses across that every year. Now the sun orbits the center of the galaxy about once every 250, so it'll cross the plane twice in that amount of time. Now the galactic center reaches 270 degrees on the order of a few hundred years.

[lonestarnot]

31. The alignment on the 21 Dec 2012 supposedly occurs every 25,000 + years.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

32. Yeah, except the alignment they're talking about took place several years ago.

:shrug:

[lonestarnot]

33. No that was 1999, as I checked it out from the small observatory @ ASU and that was

a planet alignment, did not involve direct allignment with the sun. Saturn was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay cool through one of those huge telescopes. I kept cheating my way back into line to look over and over, (worse than a 1st grader heh) But yeah, I think that is the allignment that you are speaking about, but not certain. Was there another?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

37. We're not talking about planetary alignments.

We're talking about the sun precessing across the galactic equator. Something that happens every year. The center precessing in 1998, not 2012.

[lonestarnot]

38. Yes that coupled with the planets and the sun in alignment is what was pictured

at the link.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

40. Except they got the dates wrong by 14 years.

I'll have to presume on purpose.

[lonestarnot]

44. How so?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

45. Because on December 21st, 2012...

The center of the sun will not be precessing across the galactic equator. That happened on December 21st, 1998.

It's right there in my graphic.

[lonestarnot]

47. No, again,

The occurrence of the allignment of which they speak occurs only ever 25,000+ years.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

49. Actually, reading the link...

they say it's never happened before.

But, Lonestarnot, the link you provided is just a bunch of made up bullshit.

:shrug:

[lonestarnot]

53. Oh. Well check out the history channel program. Maybe it will be more informative.

I am not too well informed, but do find this stuff fascinating. The history channel is the one stating that the allignment that is to occur, occurs only once ever 25K years. Hijacked my own thread LOL :P

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

55. Yeah, History channel's full of crap too.

Unless you're looking for expert information on the history of Hitler's haunted UFOs.

[lonestarnot]

56. Snort!

:rofl: There certainly has been attempted rewrites, but this is re future events.

[lonestarnot]

57. and this one is crap too?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

58. No, that looks fine.

Except you'll notice the galactic equator draws a chord across the sun, not a diameter. Which supports my picture in post #37, and is contrary to the claim in your link.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

9. And, as usual, it's all the Jews' fault.

http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

Your link sucks ass.

[lonestarnot]

12. Interesting.

[DemoTex]

11. Coincides fairly closely with predicted peak of Solar Cycle 24.

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2007/s2847.htm

[lonestarnot]

14. 50/50 split until June or July this year.

One disagreement among the current panel members centers on the importance of magnetic fields around the sun's poles as the previous cycle decays. End-cycle polar fields are the bedrock of the approach predicting a weak Cycle 24. The strong-cycle forecasters place more importance on other precursors extending over a several-cycle history. Another clue will be whether Cycle 24 sunspots appear by mid 2008. If not, the strong-cycle group might change its forecast.

[DemoTex]

16. Sunspot 981 has appeared. SS 981 marks the beginning of Solar Cycle 24.

This shows the emergence of Sunspot 981, hailed as the beginning of Solar Cycle 24. The decline of Solar Cycle 23 is evidenced by the gradual disappearance of Sunspot 980. At the start of a solar cycle, sunspots appear approximately 30 degrees from the solar equator. As the solar cycle progresses, sunspots form closer and closer to the equator.

http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2008/01/07/100/

[lonestarnot]

22. An education in sunspots!

Thank you!

[BigDaddy44]

13. I predict....

It will be pretty cold in my part of the world...like it always is in late December. The day will be short...as it always is on December 21st. Probably cloudy, maybe a snow shower. It'll be a Friday, so the Bengals will getting ready to play a meaningless game since they will have long been eliminated from playoff contention. Traffic will be lousy; lots of late Christmas shoppers. Other than that? Just another day in December.

[lonestarnot]

15. You sports fans are always soooooooo boring.

:evilgrin:

[walldude]

17. Funny you should mention this, my 13 year old

just got back from regional Science Bowl in New Mexico and apparently this was a big topic. We talked about it for an hour last night. It's pretty amazing.

[lonestarnot]

23. It was? Did he learn many things?

:applause:

[walldude]

26. Hell yeah he did, I had no idea about this and wouldn't have till

you posted it. Like I said.. funny. My kid amazes me, he's twice as book smart as I am and I learn new things from him every day. They came in second in the science bowl, didn't make the nationals but I was very proud. He also got separated from his group while in N.M. He was really great, didn't panic or anything, called me, I got him the number of a cab company and he called them and got a cab back to his hotel. Not bad for a 13 year old in a strange city.

Sorry, I'm babbling like a proud parent.. :yoiks:

[lonestarnot]

27. walldude, I cannot think of a better source of pride! MOST EXCELLENT!

:applause:

[Javaman]

18. Why do gamma rays hate america? nt

[Individualist]

19. Another interesting coincidence...

The Mayan calendar ends in December 2012. http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-mayan.html

*cue music from The Twilight Zone*

[Cleita]

20. Other ancient cultures, like Chinese and Celtic have also

independently targeted this date as a cosmic happening too. *plays twilight zone music* Strange things are happening?

[lonestarnot]

30. Is it a Celtic calendar or other such date tracker or a religious deal?

[Cleita]

34. I knew I was going to be asked for sources.

I saw a program on either the History channel or Discovery channel this weekend about it. They reviewed Mayan prophecies, Chinese I Ching prophecies and some old tattered texts written more than a thousand years ago about the prophecies of a Celtic Merlin, yes that Merlin, but not the fictional one that pointed to these events. These were folk tales passed down by word of mouth. The medieval chroniclers, who were probably also astrologers, pinpointed the date.

I would love to give you sources as I am quite fascinated about this myself but since my google time is being spent on the Great Drought of 2200 B. C., it's on the back burner for me at this time. However, if anyone wants to delve into this further I think it bears some research. Incidentally, the reason the drought has my first attention is because of our concern about global warming. We could be about to experience something similar in the way of a global drought that could bring apocalyptical results in our time circa 2012 as well. I just have to read the research on it to see if it's indeed similar.

[lonestarnot]

42. I will look thanks. I forgot the name of the Merlin dude until you mentioned it.

[lonestarnot]

50. a quote as I do not know how to post parts of a pdf doc

http://www.worldarchaeologicalcongress.org/site/enews/enews_13.pdf

"Now a newly discovered Scala Mundi, dating from around 1441, not only contains a hitherto unknown drawing of Stonehenge, it place the building of the monument in the later fifth century, and repeats Geoffrey of Monmouth's tale that Merlin built Stonehenge, 'not by force but by art' from stones brought from Ireland. The manuscript containing the vignette was discovered in the municipal libray at Douai by Christian Heck, History of Art Professor at the University of Lille 3 Charles-de-Gaulle." cooooooooooooool but sidetracked, will look more.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

35. No they haven't.

Modern woos play around with numerology and event claims like that, but they're nonsense.

[Cleita]

36. Whatever.

Please take your closed mind elsewhere until you have better answers and information in debunking other theories about these matters.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

39. Closed mind? Please.

You're talking about the "McKenna brothers" and their I-ching nonsense, right? Here's how it works.

They start with an arbitrary date, 2012. What's that got to do with the Chinese or I-ching? Nothing.

Then they come up with a bunch of numbers, which they claim has something to do with Chinese numerology.

67 years
4306 years
275,000 years
18 million years.

That's supposed to be significant, right? Well, that was 1945, which was a significant year, right?

And 4306 was roughly the beginning of civilization, right?

And 275,000 years was the beginning of homo sapiens, right?

And 18 million years ago was the height of mammals, whatever that means, right?

So all this proves that 2012 is significant. Except it doesn't. They arbitrarily picked 2012, and fudged numbers and nonsense, and threw in words like "fractals" in order to make 2012 look significant, at least to very stupid people who don't know much about anything.

If you want to make a historical claim such as "2012 A.D. was an important date in Chinese and Celtic calenders, that's fine. But you're going to have to back it up.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

43. Why you gotta hate on the fractals?

What did self-similarity ever do to hurt you?

[lonestarnot]

24. Yes and there is a Chinese thing, which I do not recall at the moment that also ends that day.

[Buns_of_Fire]

28. Some scientist took the I Ching and performed several calculations...

...and it stopped on 12/21/2012, also. There was a show on the History Channel a couple of nights ago about it all.

Not to mention that 12/21/2012 is roughly a month before I get to retire.

Hmmmph. Thanks a lot, universe. Prbbbbbbbbffffffffffffffft!

[lonestarnot]

29. Yeah that's it the I Ching.

LOL sorry re the retirement spoiler. I just do one day at a time.

[JBear]

51. So did it start...

Did it start with a similar cosmic event? It make you wonder!

:bounce:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

54. The Mayan Long Count?

It starts at the supposed creation of the world.

3114 B.C.

[Kip Humphrey]

21. Better start making a REALLY BIG tinfoil hat!

[lonestarnot]

25. What for? I'm having fun learning re sun spots and radiation?

Wouldn't it be worse if wearing tin foil?

[seemslikeadream]

41. Transformation 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCETzDqSTww

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zddop9ch9UI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cshL004fsU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwha5QVn4qg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-gODbNzeiY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCYb3grBXiI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh_nDVtsp4Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy8RLTw2bFQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy8RLTw2bFQ

[lonestarnot]

46. What's that about, no sound here. All I saw was a pentagram looked devilish.

:evilfrown:

[seemslikeadream]

48. Oh no, not devilish

Are you saying you're having trouble getting the sound or you are not capable of listening to it?

This is really good too

http://www.surfthechannel.com/show/documentaries/Magical_Egypt.html

[lonestarnot]

52. I have no speakers at my current location.

I will have a looksee when I get home. :P