Who are the big cocaine kingpins in the USA?

[L. Coyote]

We hear about drug kingpins in Colombia, or in Mexico.
Why do we hear nothing about who they are in the USA?

Is public corruption in trans-shipment states like Florida and Texas that effective!

What exactly is the War on Drugs doing?

[RB TexLa]

1. How much cocaine is grown in the US?

[Cerridwen]

6. So what you're saying is, we shouldn't be looking at who grows

it, we should look to who imports it into the US and how; as they are the "kingpins" American-style.

Good point.

[L. Coyote]

9. How much cocaine is consumed in the US? By whom?

What percentage of drugs in the world are consumed by which populations?

What are the impacts on economics? Currency flows?

[flvegan]

2. Currently, the "War on Drugs" is hauling baseball players before Congress

because they hit too many homeruns/throw too fast.

Important stuff.

[Romulox]

3. Don't worry, we're still warehousing millions of young black men for victimless crimes

You know, the kind of stuff the War on Drugs is supposed to be about! :eyes:

[JuniperLea]

5. You mean all those black men who consistently vote Democratic?

Yeah, thought that's what you meant.

[Romulox]

12. That's PRECISELY who I meant

Though I sure as hell wasn't voicing my approval.

:eyes: = :sarcasm:

[JuniperLea]

21. Me either...

I was in a revival of the play "Hair" back in the 80's... I did a lot of research on the Viet Nam war protests... same deal, different war...

One of my solos:

Ripped open by metal explosion
Caught in barbed wire
Fireball
Bullet shock
Bayonet
Electricity
Shrapnel
Throbbing meat
Electronic data processing
Black uniforms
Bare feet, carbines
Mail-order rifles
Shoot the muscles
256 Viet Cong captured
256 Viet Cong captured

Prisoners in Niggertown
It's a dirty little war
Three Five Zero Zero
Take weapons up and begin to kill
Watch the long long armies drifting home

[JuniperLea]

4. Carefully guarded names in the US Government...

The war on drugs is pretty much like the war in Iraq... Blackwater, et all... phony schemes to get people into trouble and out of the way... barter with foreign governments... flood the streets of Compton... same ol', same ol'.

[devilgrrl]

7. The DEA

How do you think that shit gets into the country?

[Richard Steele]

11. You beat me to it! nm

[PetrusMonsFormicarum]

8. "War on drugs"

began as a convenient way to insure a steady flow of confiscated funds (from drug raids and taxpayers' pockets) to America's police. As long as drugs remain illegal, there is justification for increased budgets to fight their "scourge".

However, like lottery dollars being used to fund building schools, this represents a sporadic and often Constitutionally questionable source of funds, that ironically capture police in their own addiction: addiction to easy money. Further, it is in the Fed's best interest to keep drugs flowing. For one, it justifies outrageous spending for arming police like militias. For another, drugs, especially in inner-city environments, are as much a containment tool or an opiate of the masses as pro-sports. Drugs are used to keep minority populations off-balance, poor, and locked in cycles of violence.

Yes, drugs are bad, but those who choose to utilize them as weapons against their own population, are truly evil.

[psychmommy]

14. alot of people are employed by the war on drugs.

judges-all of their staffs (municipal, state & federal), jails, prisons, federal detention centers, cops, prosecutors, lawyers, treatment center staffs, probation departments (state & federal), parole agencies, half way houses-don't forget all of the facilities for juvies-all of the above institutions are separate for kids. alot of people eat from the war on drugs. sadly, it gives me job security.

[Echo In Light]

19. Yet another phony war with big heap doses of propaganda to sell it

[natrat]

10. let's see-who controls afghanistan? there's your answer

[cliffordu]

13. Well. I don't directly know about today , but in my day

we bought our amphetamines and pot off of a 'Company' guy down in Danang......

I would assume the same fuckers control all of it now.

HBO did a documentary "BASTARDS OF THE PARTY" about how the Bloods and Crips were started after the killing of two leaders of the LA black panthers by federal operatives, and how they instigated the Crack epidemic in South central LA.........

If you anger easily I'd suggest you pass on it, though

[TooBigaTent]

15. For any criminal enterprise, look for the rich white man behind the scenes.

[Ghost in the Machine]

16. The *main* US kingpins are the CIA fronts set up to distribute to street level dealers

They change with each major city, but they're all backed by the CIA and they're pretty much untouchable unless they *really* fuck up... like seeking revenge on a gang that has screwed them for their product/money.

I lived the drug-runner lifestyle back in the 80's in South Florida (the Keys, Miami, Ft. Lauderdale) and I've seen things, which I won't talk about in detail very much, that would make you shit yourself. Have you ever seen a ton of cocaine go missing from a police station and the official story on its disappearance is "rats ate it"?... I've seen a ton sacrificed in a set-up (motorhome stopped due to "broken tail light") so that 5 semi trailers full could pass through while the cops were busy. I've seen cocaine dealt out of the evidence room of a police station. I knew about the "Miami River Cops" before the authorities and media knew who they were. You think politics makes strange bedfellows? You should see the dark underworld of the drug trade....

[Subdivisions]

17. Oliver North? n/t

[Blue_In_AK]

18. "American Drug War"

currently being aired on Showtime -- required viewing.

[Javaman]

20. The war on drugs is a self perpetuating cottage industry.

It works on many levels. As long as there is a war and "drug money" seized, there will always be funding for the US paramilitaries new gewgaws.

It's a circular firing squad: they must capture drug dealers and drugs so they can get their name in the papers to show they are doing something important. Because if they don't, they don't get funding to capture drug dealers and drugs to they can get their name in the papers to show they are doing something important. And if they don't, then they don't get funding to capture drug dealers and drugs so they can get their name in the papers to show they are doing something important. Because if they don't, they don't get funding to capture drug dealers and drugs to they can get their name in the papers to show they are doing something important. And if they don't, then they don't get funding to capture drug dealers and drugs so they can get their name in the papers to show they are doing something important. Because if they don't, they don't get funding to capture drug dealers and drugs to they can get their name in the papers to show they are doing something important. etc, etc, etc...

[L. Coyote]

22. "the U.S., with five percent of the world's population, has 25% of the world's prisoners"

"the U.S., with five percent of the world's population, has 25% of the world's prisoners"

from: Gary Webb: More Pieces In The Suicided Puzzle - Pt 1
By Charlene Fassa - http://www.rense.com/general69/webb1.htm