How times and fortunes change ......

[Stinky The Clown]

Mods ..... this is not intended to be a primaries thread, but if you see it that way ..... well ...... no crabbing from me.

I'm always amazed at how things change ..... and sometimes so quickly.

Recently, we won a majority in the Senate and the House. Pelosi and Reid were being praised. Now? Not so much.

Jim Webb took Macaca's seat. Just today there was one of an endless string of I hate Webb threads. Hey, when one wins a seat like that, one has to assume the winner is less liberal than (name your favorite lberal here, cuz if I do, you'll torch my ass).

Kerry ..... loser .... winner ...... loser ..... and nowadays, some still call him a loser.

Wesley ..... who?

Now the point ..... think back to 1991 ...... Bill Clinton was coming on ..... sorta. But who do you **really** remember from way back then as the folk hero?

How about James Carville? The Ragin' Cajun. Larger than life. Never at a loss for words. A speech pattern like a machine gun. Not the LEAST bit fearful of going toe to toe with anyone Poppy could even conceive of sending forth.

Admit it ..... you really like Carville back then.

Who is out there these days who is/will be a darling and then rapidly fall to goat .... or lower?

[Dr Fate]

1. Paul's stuff with The Beatles was good-his later stuff with the Wings stank.

People change, and opinions about them change.

The war and Bush corruption- and the support of or failure to oppose it-have certainly changed the perceptions held about many DEM politicians.

As far Paul McCartney goes, just because a guy used to make good records doesnt mean he still makes them, or that I have to buy them.

[Lerkfish]

3. great minds think alike. I just crafted a similar response

Its a fallacy to assume that once you like or don't like someone you're not allowed to rethink that decision on the political scene.
(just ask Richardson)

but in our lives, every day, we make shifting judgements of those around us. We aggregrate our impressions of them and what they do can color our overall preference for them.

[Lerkfish]

2. well, to be honest, I NEVER liked Carville

However, I did used to like Bill Clinton, but no longer.

What happens with celebrities and politicians is they try to project the desired image of how they want people to see them. If you buy into their image, it works for a while. But over time, you get more information. More information allows you to fill in the parts of them that their intended public persona doesn't allow.

You become more informed. You see the results of their decisions, and you're able to better assess if you agree with how they act instead of what they want you to think of them.

You may view this as waffling, but in fact, its personal reassessment of a public official as you become more informed and enlightened as to who they are.

For example, I didn't have feelings for Obama, one way or the other a year ago, but BY HIS ACTIONS and how he has handled things, he impresses more.
And How Hillary handles thing keeps impressing me less.

Does that make me wrong, or does that make me flexible enough to assimilate new data and come to a more precise conclusion?

[Stinky The Clown]

4. What's your point?

That you're sentient? That you evolve?

Aren't we all? Don't we all?

My OP simply asked a question.

[Lerkfish]

5. and I answered the question

you said "ADMIT it you like Carville back then"

and I said, Nope, I never did.

if you don't LIKE my answer, whatever. I also continued to expound on an extension of your postulation in the OP, turning it around on you and explaining WHY people change their minds on public officials.

have a nice day.

[Stinky The Clown]

6. "Turning it around on me"?

What's that supposed to mean, O wise and evolved one?