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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:06 PM
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Those 400 kids from TX, taken from a compound, some who have never
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 09:07 PM by babylonsister
set foot out of that 1,700 acre farm, are going into custody, but whose? I've never heard of this town, but TX is big. That's a lot of kids to 'place' somewhere.

Kids didn't know toys, don't know food that we know, etc. I'm watching CNN/Anderson Cooper.

Very weird.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:06 PM
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1. CPS
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 09:07 PM by RGBolen


The children, along with 133 adult women from the religious retreat, are being interviewed and assessed at a San Angelo shelter, one that is nearly full. A judge will hold a hearing on the children on April 17 in Tom Green County.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/040808dntexpolygamist.3f3c0801.html
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:08 PM
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3. 400 KIDS! Do you think that agency is equipped for that? nt
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:09 PM
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4. They have custody of thousands more already. I'm sure they can handle it
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 09:09 PM by RGBolen
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:11 PM
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5. Someone's handling it, but this is deep in the heart of TX, some
place I've never heard of, and I live in TX. I just wonder and don't assume.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:13 PM
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9. San Angelo is probably over 100k now.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:08 PM
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2. I would adopt one or 2 if I could.
I would de-program them and give them a chance at a normal life.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:13 PM
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8. Is there a way we can help?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:11 PM
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6. Just what kind of a religious retreat is this? Another Branch Davidian concept?
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:17 PM
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11. Mormon polygamist complex, the "patriarch" Jeffs is already in jail
in AZ, I think, or else NV

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:17 PM
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12. I don't remember the Branch Davidians men marriying and
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 09:17 PM by MadMaddie
abusing the pre-teen girls.

This compound was a polygamist compound where 5o year old men were marying their 15 year nieces and other realitives. Apparantly, a lot of physical and mental abuse. This has been going on for years.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:35 PM
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18. And as the boys become adolescents, the adult males ship them off to nearby towns.
Can't have any competition, you know. :sarcasm:--but very true.

I went to college in northern Arizona and it really does happen. Flagstaff and Kingman both have an awful lot of homeless and bitter teenage boys.

Those FLDS adult males are sick puppies, indeed.
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NMLobo Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:43 PM
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21. Koresh Did nm
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:46 PM
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22. Did he? I don't remember hearing much about it
we mainly heard about the fire and Janet Reno.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:18 PM
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29. Aparently but minus all the guns...I thought that why the went to Texas.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:12 PM
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7. They were just saying the little girls were playing with real live
babies not dolls, they were being groomed to have babies.

This is sick stuff. These kids are going to have a tough assimilation into average America.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:15 PM
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10. Be careful, there will be some on here to tell you "birthing babies is a good thing"
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:20 PM
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13. It is a farm to raise slave wives
The girls are probably taught to obey their chosen husband or get the hell beaten out of them.

Amazing how so many cults main purpose seems to be making stepford wives.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:26 PM
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14. How many of those girls will the authorities never know about
because they died in childbirth, and were buried on the grounds??

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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:27 PM
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15. 100 women and children will be sheltered in Austin.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 09:29 PM by silverlib
I work for CPS in Austin and we received the Emergency Response Notice around 2 pm. Three other shelters are being set up in other large cities - I assume San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas.

We will be working overtime to man the 24-hour shelter - location to be announced. It is my understanding that they will arrive tonight. The managers and administrators will likely take the first overnight shift. Unchartered territory for the experiences these women and children have endured - I hear the children have never seen crayons. Length of time - undetermined. No area is equipped for 400 removals -

Please keep them in your hearts and thoughts - 400 people coming to what to them is a very strange place.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:28 PM
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16. Thank you very much; you answered my question about where
so many children would go. :hug:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:37 PM
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I can only imagine how busy you must be. Have you ever gotten complaints about the teenage boys bein
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 09:38 PM by blondeatlast
abandoned?

I know it happens here in AZ and the teenage boys are afraid to go to authorities.

On edit: THANK YOU for doing what must seem like a thankless job. If there's anything we can do to help, I'm sure we'll try. :hug:
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:40 PM
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20. Thanks for your work. You and your coworkers have a
tough job and you should know that you are appreciated.
:grouphug:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:31 PM
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17. I wish they'd go after the Roloff Homes in the Corpus Christi area next...
Lester Roloff. Eww. What an abusive creep.
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:50 PM
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24. OMG - is he still in business?.
I thought he died - I lived in that area in my younger days when one of the girls ran from the mall and reported ungodly abuses. I thought he was run out of business years ago.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:04 PM
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25. Roloff himself died in a plane crash, but his madrassas live on...
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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:17 PM
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28. Thank you...
I had no idea. I thought I had imagined dancing on his grave - as I've never been prone to nightmares. The article certainly points out Bush's contribution to such madness.

Thanks again for the article -
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:37 PM
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19. Go West on I10 out of Houston
for about 350 miles. Make a right at Sonora. You can't miss it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:47 PM
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23. 350 miles? Bite your tongue! But thanks. nt
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:04 PM
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26. THey are all together
The church members were being held at Fort Concho, a 150-year-old fort built to protect frontier settlements, to be interviewed about the 16-year-old girl and whether, in fact, the teenager was among them.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iIdMpRHjN4hpNKBhfYyAsR4DDo4QD8VTDI180
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:11 PM
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27. This is happening in the USA - the "beacon" of freedom and democracy?
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Even with my low opinion of the USAmerican government

This surprises me.

How the hell does the US government expect to protect itself from terrorists if they cannot protect their own children?

An abuse here and there, sad to say is almost "normal"

But HUNDREDS in one place?

Wake up USAmericans . .

Your society is devolving.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:23 PM
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30. Know something scarey? This will be called 'religious freedom..'
That's right... some lawyer somewhere is gonna
come to the defense of this group,
claiming they have 'biblical authority' to worship and live
according the god's dictates, and they use the scripture
to live this way...

Anyone who claims that biblical marriage is the way God
planned.. is refering to the polygamous patriarchal
marriages of the Old Testament.

This is carrying out the ancient dictates, and perhaps
a bizarre interpretation of the original "mormon" lifestyle...

But mark my words.. when they find the 'fathers' of this
cult, they'll be armed with high powered laywers who
haul out the scripture, and claim the moral high ground.

And.. to carry this out to another level,
this should be a lesson to any right wingers who
claim that marriage should be grounded in biblcal tradition.
Because this.. is it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:03 AM
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31. I think that's what it was called from day 1, but it didn't help. Religious freedom? nt
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