Remember: They Are Liars

[WilliamPitt]

Original: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/040808J.shtml

Remember: They Are Liars
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Columnist

Tuesday 08 April 2008

No one is such a liar as the indignant man.

- Friedrich Nietzsche

George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Condoleezza Rice, along with a slew of administration underlings and a revolving-door cavalcade of brass hats from the Pentagon, have been making claims regarding Iraq for many years now.

They claimed Iraq was in possession of 26,000 liters of anthrax, "enough to kill several million people," according to a page on the White House web site titled Disarm Saddam Hussein.

They lied.

They claimed Iraq was in possession of 38,000 liters of botulinum toxin.

They lied.

They claimed Iraq was in possession of 500 tons, which equals 1,000,000 pounds, of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.

They lied.

They claimed Iraq was in possession of nearly 30,000 munitions capable of delivering these agents.

They lied.

They claimed Iraq was in possession of several mobile biological weapons labs.

They lied.

They claimed Iraq was operating an "advanced" nuclear weapons program.

They lied.

They claimed Iraq had been seeking "significant quantities" of uranium from Africa for use in this "advanced" nuclear weapons program.

They lied.

They claimed Iraq attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes "suitable for nuclear weapons."

They lied.

They claimed America needed to invade, overthrow and occupy Iraq in order to remove this menace from our world. "It would take just one vial, one canister, one crate slipped into this country," went the White House line, "to bring a day of horror like none we have ever known."

They lied.

"Simply stated," said Dick Cheney in August of 2002, "there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."

Liar.

"Right now," said George W. Bush in September of 2002, "Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of nuclear weapons."

Liar.

"We know for a fact," said White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer in January of 2003, "that there are weapons there."

Liar.

"We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction," said Colin Powell in February of 2003, "is determined to make more."

Liar.

"We know where they are," said Donald Rumsfeld in March of 2003. "They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad, and east, south, west and north somewhat."

Liar.

"The Iraqi people understand what this crisis is about," said Paul Wolfowitz in March of 2003. "Like the people of France in the 1940s, they view us as their hoped-for liberator."

Liar.

"No one ever said that we knew precisely where all of these agents were," said Condoleezza Rice in June of 2003, "where they were stored."

Liar.

"I have absolute confidence that there are weapons of mass destruction inside this country," said Gen. Tommy Franks in April of 2003. "Whether we will turn out, at the end of the day, to find them in one of the 2,000 or 3,000 sites we already know about or whether contact with one of these officials who we may come in contact with will tell us, 'Oh, well, there's actually another site,' and we'll find it there, I'm not sure."

Wrong.

"Before the war," said Gen. Michael Hagee in May of 2003, "there's no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found."

Wrong.

"Given time," said Gen. Richard Myers in May of 2003, "given the number of prisoners now that we're interrogating, I'm confident that we're going to find weapons of mass destruction."

Wrong.

"Do I think we're going to find something? Yeah, I kind of do," said Maj. Gen. Keith Dayton in May of 2003, "because I think there's a lot of information out there."

Wrong.

Gen. David Petraeus, commander of US forces in Iraq, is about to give testimony before the Senate regarding the current state of affairs in that battle-savaged country. He is a political general, one of many America has seen and heard over the last five years, one who would leap nude from the Capitol dome before telling the real truth about matters in Iraq ... or who would speak using words fed to him by liars, and thus be wrong.

Remember: they lie. They all lie, from the top man down to the bottom. If their lips are moving, a lie is unfolding. If they say water is wet, get into the shower to make sure.

They lie.

Period.

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[fishnfla]

1. Its wrong to lie, but

when it comes to leadership, its worse to be wrong

[MichiganVote]

11. Its horrendous to be both, 'leaders' and 'wrong'. 4000+ wrong.

[NedSchneebly]

42. As George Castanza said ...

"Remember, it's not a lie if you believe it's true."

:yoiks:

[SalviaBlue]

2. k&r

Nothing they say is trustworthy. Assume the opposite of what they say is true.

[caledesi]

4. Well said! nt

[kentuck]

3. And the truth is just putting its shoes on...

Lies, obfuscations, distortions, you name it...

[90-percent]

5. Thanks Will!

Always love your journalism and your accessability to us common folk.

-90% Jimmy

[spanone]

6. and they continue to lie and will continue to lie

[Owl]

7. Thanks Will! Excellent.

K&R

[Winterblues]

8. Doesn't matter one whit....Accountability is "Off the Table"

Who cares if they LIE. Nothing and I mean NOTHING will ever be done about it...:shrug:

[lark]

9. Recommended

Highly!

[Sam Ervin jret]

10. These people do worse than lie. They redefine truth, lie, black and white.

Their assault on our language and the words we use has given their lies camouflage. Their use of the law, with the help of lawyers who need to be disbarred and imprisoned, and the jargon of that profession has made the lies they tell all the more difficult to expose and prosecute.

When you add to that the Media's manipulation and degradation of language along with political interference with the fourth estate you not only get a state that can manipulate the truth through the use of the language and the law but the inability to call attention to it for the reason of airing the problems and correcting them.

How else can we explain the fact that you can so easily point out but a fraction of the lies the administration has told here in this forum, but day after day in the mass media we hear trivia? Across the country in paper after paper, on station after station we hear silence on this subject.

Why? How is this possible?

How can it be that anyone would believe anything any person would say after so many lies? When Bill Clinton told ONE lie about his sex life, there was "the credibility question" asked all over the news.

Why is the "credibility question" not being asked about this entire administration?

I submit it is because of the above two reasons I have listed. But I am willing and waiting to be enlightened as to another reason.

[Richard Steele]

12. K&R

[formercia]

13. "Lies work."

George H. W. Bush 1992

I heard him say it with my own ears.

[Cleita]

14. And now Hillary is lying. Where do we go from here? n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

18. Someone just had to make light of what the Bush administration has done.

[Cleita]

28. There is no "light" here. Lying especially when done

by people who have the power to affect the lives of those they purport to serve or who want to serve those people, who put them into power, is a verious serious matter. Lying about this is very dishonorable because it affects the lives of those in very basic way, who were lied to.

[pnwmom]

29. Her "lies" are nothing to theirs. It trivializes what they have done to

make this comparison.

[Cleita]

30. Their lies were not huge either until they got into power.

Do go over the Bush campaign of 2000. He presented himself as a compassionate conservative and someone who was able to reach across the aisle. He was going to be the education President. Remember? Those lies really turned out to be whoppers, but they seemed rather benign lies back then. Never trust a liar, no matter how inconsequential the lie may seem if they are trying to gain public office.

[McCamy Taylor]

48. W. campaign lies were huge and the press did not out a single one.

He claimed he supported patient protection from HMOs in Texas---he vetoed it. If the press had outed that lie he might not have been elected president. He claimed "me too" on a host of environmental issues when his record from Texas showed that he was a foe of the environment. Again, if the press had held him accountable, he could not have done that. He claimed that he would be an isolationist president the Project For a New American Century was a matter of public record---meaning that the plans for the invasion of Iraq was already on the table--but the press did not report that, either.

Anyone who tries to draw a parallel between Hillary and Bush is resorting to the lowest kind of political tricks---

Just like Nader in 2000 when he said thet Gore equaled Bush

Everyone who does this should be ashamed.

[Cleita]

51. Liars are liars. The are the ones who should be ashamed,

not those who point it out. Why don't you just say I'm being unpatriotic for pointing out a truth. Isn't that what fascist apologists do?

[Baby Snooks]

15. But it is the noble lie....

The noble lie is told for the greater good. Although of late it seems to have been told for the greater evil.

Congress seems intent on not doing anything but silencing those who demand it do something. All eyes, as always, turn to Madame Speaker.

[90-percent]

16. They Lie

Yeah, their lies are so brazen they would make Goebbels and Hitler blush!


Adolph to GWB; "At long last, Sir, have you no sense of decency?"

-90% Jimmy

[seemslikeadream]

17. we knew that there had been a call

Before the 2001 terrorist attacks, he said, "we knew that there had been a call from someplace that was known to be a safe house in Afghanistan and we knew that it came to the United States. We didn't know precisely where it went. You've got 3,000 people who went to work that day, and didn't come home, to show for that."

Mukasey did not specify the call to which he referred. He also did not explain why the government, if it knew of telephone calls from suspected foreign terrorists, hadn't sought a wiretapping warrant from a court established by Congress to authorize terrorist surveillance, or hadn't monitored all such calls without a warrant for 72 hours as allowed by law. The Justice Department did not respond to a request for more information.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/03/28/BA69VROE9.DTL

[McCamy Taylor]

19. Good point. The press ignores LIES that matter and nitpicks to find accidental mistatements that are

of no consequence. They do this to excuse the really important liars, the people like W. and Cheney who have been very good for their telecom bosses. The RNC---meaning the elite--have two favorite strategies when it comes to retaining power in this country. The first and most important is Divide and Conquer They are using that with the Democrats right now, pitting men against women, White against Black as Angela Davis describes they have done throughout US history in her book Women, Race and Class .

The second most important is They all do it This is the strategy the elite uses to excuse its crimes. If Abramoff is caught bribing half the GOP Congress, the FBI will set up a sting with one Black Democrat. That evens things up. If the entire Bush administration lies about every god damned thing they have done, the press will call a single Democratic presidential candidate a liar over her memories of a ten year old visit to Bosnia. That will even the score.

Divide and Conquer and They All Do It. Learn these two well. You will see them everywhere.

[malaise]

20. The legacy of Bushco

-Lies, war crimes, destruction of the constitution and fear mongering.

That is all.

[Beam Me Up]

21. But they told the truth about 9/11

19 Fundamentalist hijackers, some trained by our military and some who could barely fly, somehow got onboard four aircraft without any clear video evidence, flew two planes into the WTC causing them to catch fire and fall down at near free-fall speed, which no steel structure had ever done before, and a third 47 story building to collapse in 6.5 seconds having not been hit by a plane at all, plowed one plane into a the Pentagon leaving now apparent trace of itself, although the Flight Data Recorder allegedly recovered from the site indicates it was on the wrong flight path and too high to have hit and cause the evident physical damage in and around the Pentagon, and a fourth to crash in Pennsylvania, leaving hardly a trace of itself -- all without any one of them being intercepted by our national air defense, all while Bush read stories with kids, and all because they hate us for our freedoms.

Amazing.

Simply amazing.

:eyes:

[BeachBaby]

22. K'd, R'd and bookmarked. Thank you, Will, for putting into words

what so many of us think about, everyday.

[mhoran]

23. I tried to listen to the Patraeus testimony on NPR today...

...but, after about ten minutes, I had to turn it off. Same old BS, just another sham hearing, utterly partisan and completely pointless.

[santamargarita]

24. Excellent Post WilliamPitt and Very True!

Thanks.

[Major Hogwash]

25. I bookmarked this bad mofo.

This is so true, so direct.

[Shoedogg]

26. "The demon is a liar..."

"...He is a liar. The demon is a liar. He will lie to confuse us. But he will also mix lies with the truth to attack us. The attack is psychological, Damien, and powerful. So don't listen to him. Remember that . . . do not listen." -- Fr. Lancaster Merrin ;-)

[mcollier]

27. Apparently many could care less about liars

controlling the government.

There's be very little accountability of the Bush administration thus far...

Try truth for a change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr-lwOH1OiI

[AntiFascist]

31. Iraq is in possession of a shitload of oil....

George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Condi Rice are former oil executives. That's all you need to know about Republican leadership.

[greyghost]

34. Exactly, it has and always will be about the oil. Only the very naive

would think other wise. We are going to be occupying this country for a VERY long time.

[callous taoboy]

46. Or fighting other countries over the oil reserves.

[greyghost]

47. Spot on.

[Radio_Lady]

32. Dynamite! K & R. Will, we're coming to Boston next month 5/22 - 6/01.

Just a suggestion, but we would love to meet up with you and a significant other or ???.

If you're at all interested, PM me -- and thanks for your excellent writing.

Cordially,

Radio Lady Ellen & husband Audio Al

PS. We will be staying in Waltham and then Dedham, but we'll have a car!

[DemoTex]

33. Will, your lying truth makes my teeth hurt .. bad!

Kick the MoFo, and Rec it too!

[donheld]

35. Thanks Will

[tavalon]

36. Do you remember when they switched it from "Weapons of Mass Destruction" tm

to "Weapons of Mass Destruction Programs"? I remember at the time doing a double take and laughing at the absurdity. Unfortunately, I also noticed that none of the MSM whores questioned the change. They didn't even have the temerity to question the slippery word slope game.

[sellitman]

37. The "Slippery word slope game" is one they play oh so well.

From "No child left behind" to their clean air and clean water program that do the opposite of what they sound like. These LIARS distort everything they touch.

[Serial Mom]

38. All true, but is there something worse than lying??

'Cause that's what they are doing!

They are murdering people by their words/lies!

[McCamy Taylor]

49. The worse is when the press does not hold them accountable. When it backs up the lies.

[Echo In Light]

39. Liars with PLENTY of assistance to peddle, and plenty of willfully blind to buy it

[samsingh]

impossible to forget - they are disgusting liars of the worst kind

and HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of people have died. they are the worst war criminals in decades

[Thothmes]

55. At least since the sixties

[samsingh]

40. impossible to forget - they are disgusting liars of the worst kind

and HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of people have died. they are the worst war criminals in decades

[electropop]

41. "If they say water is wet..."

That is literally how I feel about them. If they say something I had thought to be true, I start to doubt it.

[wowimthere]

43. Yes both of them were lying and have been lying for a long time

[parkeradison]

44. Regarding "liars"

Birds of a feather flock together.

[callous taoboy]

45. They lie and Mepublicans like my brother are not bothered by it-

Talked to him last weekend and he said he knows we were lied into the war. Doesn't matter one fiddler's fart to him. He wants permanent bases there because we need the oil. This is a guy whose job it is to ferry the super rich around in private jets. He absolutely despises 99% of the clintele and wishes a hard fall upon them. I just don't get my brother.

[McCamy Taylor]

50. Chomsky said Americans only cared about Nixon;s lies at home, not in Cambodia.

American's do not care if the lies kill people in other country, they only get offended if the lies seem to impact their pocket books here. That is the mark of an imperialist nation.

[truedelphi]

52. And what is even more amazing: when our troops marched past an area where 200 tons of ordinance was

IN April of 2003, the platoon tried to stand guard over it - knowing that if it fell to certain elements in the Iraqi populace it could be used for IED's.

But they were given orders to march on after only 24 hours on guard. That this 200 tons of ordinance wasn't important. This makes you wonder - if there there had been laboratories of toxins or other nuclear items, would our soldiers have just marched on?

And the 200 tons of ordinance fell exactly into the wrong people's hands.

Voila the 4,000 dead and the 30,000 injured.

[DarkTirade]

53. The only way they can surprise me now is by telling the truth.

About something. Anything. Even if it's just something simple, like a reporter saying, "Hey George, what did you have for dinner last night?"

If that gets a truthful answer, I'll be surprised.

[spanone]

54. they are lying criminal torturing thugs