Global warming denier needs debunking

[dumbshrub]

Hi, Du'ers,
On another message board I've come across someone who says that the majority of the world's scientists say there is no such thing as Global warming (of course she cites Faux News as her source) and that the owner of The Weather Channel says that Al Gore should be sued. I know she's loony toons here, but can you guys give me some ammunition here? I just keep hearing the Twilight Zone theme song when I read what she writes and can't focus on anything else.

Thanks!

[thoughtanarchist]

1. You may as well try to evangelize for the Flying Spaghetti Monster

Deniers will not believe anything they don't agree with. You could be boiling them in oil and they will refuse to accept reality.

But, having been warned, you can find a wealth of resources at:

NASA http://www.nasa.gov/worldbook/global_warming_worldbook.html

and

NOAA http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html

very respectable sources.

[RedEarth]

2. This might help............

http://www.desmogblog.com/is-climate-change-real

.........also, here are a few scientists that believe global warming is real and caused by humans....by the way, the list stops at "d"....


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........and you can you the entire article here......

http://climateprogress.org/2008/02/11/how-do-we-really-know-humans-are-causing-global-warming/

[Jim__]

3. Do the majority ofthe world's climatologists say there's not such thing?

What percentage of the scientists who say there's no such thing work for coal, oil, auto, etc indystries?

[EOTE]

4. I'd say that less than 1% of scientists deny global warming.

Slightly more than that believe in global warming and yet think that man isn't a large cause of global climate change. Once you've refutted her first 'point', tell her to come back with something more intelligent.

[wtmusic]

9. Yet somehow that constitutes the basis for a "debate"

Shouldn't these people be ignored?

[napoleon_in_rags]

5. Searching Google news is really really creepy.

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=&q=global+warming&btnG=Search+News

All of the stories I see talking about it like it exists are foreign, all of the stories from US sources are denying it. Maybe its just a coincidence or product of a new debate, but ... well damn, I HOPE its the product of a new debate. Because the alternative suggests a lot of denial just here in this one country.

[Hugabear]

6. She's right about The Weather Channel guy wanting to sue Al Gore

But he's just a meteorologist, not a climatologist. And he's a fucking right-wing tool now.

[ThoughtCriminal]

7. He also no longer works there

As for the official position of the Weather Channel:

http://www.weather.com/encyclopedia/global/index.html

[Gothmog]

10. Coleman could not find a lawyer dumb enough to take the case

Coleman wanted to find a lawyer to take the case. http://www.ecorazzi.com/2008/03/04/weather-channel-founder-wants-to-sue-al-gore-for-global-warming-fraud/ If you read, you will see that this was all dependent on a lawyer agreeing to take the case. Well there are no lawyers stupid enought to take such a case and Coleman acknowledged that he was not suing Gore. http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/6794/?ck=1

COLEMAN: I'm not launching any lawsuits but I'm asking the question that if Al Gore knows that CO2 forcing, that is, carbon dioxide in the atmosphere from our fossil fuels, is not causing global warming, isn't he committing financial fraud when he sells carbon credits to people to offset their use of fossil fuels and putting carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? I've asked the question and believe me, a lot of people were really interested in that question. And I --

[seasat]

8. Almost every major scientific organization supports the theory, only two are noncommittal on it.

I ran across this page in Wiki a few weeks ago. It lists all the major scientific organizations and their statements regarding human influence on climate change. All except for two endorsed the anthropogenic greenhouse gas theory. Only the American Association of Petroleum Geologists had denounced the theory. They recently changed their statement on it to a neutral stance because of a backlash from their membership.

[Johonny]

11. There was a science article

a few years back that basically reviewed current scientific literature. Those results pretty much support global warming denying is a very, very small minority view point among those people actively researching. I.E. the people that deny Global warming do so without any scientific evidence strong enough to subject it to peer review.