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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 01:46 PM
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Joe Biden (!) Obliterated Every Administration Argument About Iraq
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 02:02 PM by laststeamtrain
Joe Biden (!) Obliterated Every Administration Argument About Iraq
By dday, Hullabaloo
Posted on April 9, 2008, Printed on April 9, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/waroniraq/81846/

That was a very significant moment at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings with Amb. Ryan Crocker and Gen. David Petraeus. Joe Biden asked Amb. Crocker where it would be better for American national security interests to eliminate Al Qaeda in Iraq or Al Qaeda along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. Crocker had nowhere to hide with that question. Spencer Ackerman describes the outcome.

"Crocker, in an impossible political position -- give the correct answer and humiliate the Bush administration; give the administration's answer and look like a fool -- dodged as much as he could. Then Biden forced him down. Crocker: "I would therefore pick Al Qaeda on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border." "

Game over.

Every single argument that the Administration and their lapdogs like John McCain have made or are making break down after that answer. The Ambassdor to Iraq just admitted that Iraq is not the central front in the war on terror. He just admitted that the potential for Al Qaeda to gain a beachhead in Iraq should the United States withdraw is miniscule compared to the already-established beachhead along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. He admitted that the global fight against terror is currently misdirected.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 01:54 PM
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1. The link does not work.
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GardeningGal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:00 PM
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4. I found the correct link. Here you go.
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:37 PM
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8. Oh & thank you, too.
:hi:
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:04 PM
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5. I just fixed the link. Thanks for the alert.
:hi:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 01:56 PM
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2. Biden was good.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 01:57 PM
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3. Good find, laststeamtrain.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:06 PM
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6. Biden truly "gets it".
I guess that's why he can't ever be president.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:16 PM
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12. You got that right
:shrug:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 02:20 PM
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7. Senator Biden and Mr. Hyde
When Biden's "on," he's awesome.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:42 PM
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9. My sense is that pretty much
the entire SFRC isn't going to dance to that tune any more. They're not buying the admin's line of BS. And with Biden in the captain's seat, they won't get away with much.

All in all, I think the majority of the SFRC members did an outstanding job yesterday, contrasted with the abysmal showing by the SAFC hearings earlier in the day.


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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:50 PM
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10. I loved it when Biden asked that. Also loved it when he asked
'on a scale of 1 - 10 .... where are we now?'
Petreaus and Crocker really danced around that one, until Pet. said we are at a 6 or 7.

I love Biden - so quick on his feet and speaks with a silver tongue.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:08 PM
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11. Crocker, of course, rationalized his answer as only being possible ...
... because of the magnificent success of The Surge™.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:51 PM
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13. good. let's keep this in the public eye
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 08:52 PM
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14. McCentury is gonna be regretting his Iraq position this fall
I love my signature :D
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 11:38 AM
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15. that was a tiny, pathetic nod toward reality that won't stop the war. Hit big oil's role in war and
I'll be impressed.
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