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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:56 PM
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it appears protest is no longer a viable form of dialog in the american democracy
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 04:02 PM by spanone
this is in reference to the protests in san francisco.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/04/09/torch.protest/index.html

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:57 PM
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1. Not viable, not even legal anymore.
:grr:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:58 PM
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2. I did it. It did not make the TEE VEE it never happened
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 03:58 PM by Vincardog
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:58 PM
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3. Not sure what you're talking about
but I don't think protest was ever meant to be a dialogue.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 04:00 PM
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7. talking about the protests in san francisco and yes protest is a form of dialog imo
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 04:25 PM
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9. I still don't understand
There ARE protests in S.F. They ARE occurring right now. So I don't understand the complaint.

And no, it's not a dialog. It's a form of speech, but not a dialog.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 04:27 PM
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10. they changed the route so the protesters cannot be seen...to eliminate the protests
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 04:33 PM by spanone
it's a form of dialog
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DemocratInSoCal Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 04:34 PM
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11. What Protests?
OHHHHHHHH.....RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHT. The ones they won't have to show alongside the torch.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:39 PM
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13. The protests that have been receiving non-stop coverage
for two hours.

I don't get your objection. The protestors are getting widespread coverage, China is embarrassed, and nobody's hurt. Sounds good to me!
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 04:41 PM
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12. I disagree
I think they changed the route to minimize the chance for violence - and that's a smart thing.

And protest is a monologue, not a dialog.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:43 PM
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14. you are allowed to disagree
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:58 PM
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4. Clue in the people who aren't married to their tee vees or computers as to what you mean.
There's an oblique reference there and in the post that follows yours.
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DemocratInSoCal Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:59 PM
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6. They're Changing The Route To Avoid Protesters Completely nt
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 04:09 PM
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8. What, for the Chinese torch?
Completely unsurprising to me.

They should have run the thing through at night in a rainstorm while American Idol played on the tee vee. That would have done the trick...
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 03:59 PM
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5. huh?-- are you seeking the "most obscure post of the day" award?
Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 04:00 PM by mike_c
:rofl:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 06:25 PM
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15. They changed the event to keep the protesters from stopping the event

There were even posts on DU saying the "the bus was blocked", the torch run was "collapsing" and it looked like it was going to be completely canceled. It wasn't to keep them from being seen -- it was to keep them from completely disrupting the event.

as it turned out, the anti-Olympic/China protesters significantly interfered with the event (with the speech of those who would celebrate the Olympics) even though they carried on.
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