tekisui
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:14 PM
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This Torch Run is Unbelievable. |
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Avoiding protesters with fascist boot thugs.
Homeland Security is even on the torch.
In China, the official Chinese News doesn't report the protests or publish images of trouble.
In America, they bring in the troops to march the damn thing on a surprise route. Unbelievable.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:16 PM
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1. This makes the torch a symbol of oppression rather than unity. nt |
tekisui
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:17 PM
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2. Yes it does. United in Oppresion. |
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:24 PM
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8. Exactly! Like, umm, someone seems to be missing the point here... |
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:31 PM
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14. Who created the Torch and what was their motive? |
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Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 04:33 PM by Winterblues
Do you know? .....just in case you do not know it was Adolf Hitler the king of oppression
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:34 PM
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19. Always was a symbol of oppression |
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:51 PM
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:18 PM
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3. gotta do what it takes to protect the Orwellian Torch of Peace |
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I mean the Olympic ... never mind. I was right the first time
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:21 PM
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4. I'm glad to see the torch run -- it has nothing to do with China's policies |
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:25 PM
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Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 04:25 PM by spanone
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:22 PM
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display of cowardice, not to mention the waste of resources.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:22 PM
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6. What do Bush, McCain, and the Torch all have in common? |
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They have to "bring in the troops to march the damn thing(s) on a surprise route." YOU NAILED IT (HEAD OF NAIL MEET HAMMER)
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:43 PM
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30. Yep, sounds like the Bush inauguration |
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:23 PM
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7. why don't they run the torch and let people protest and get it over with |
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by moving the route they (whoever they are) are telling the world there would be violence otherwise
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:28 PM
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That is the only message they wish to send.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:31 PM
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12. the protesters actually stopped the bus from making progress -- if so then I undertand the changes |
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One should be able to celebrate the Olympics in America without protesters stopping you. Yes, protest, but don't infringe on others' freedom to express.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:34 PM
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18. Too much hassle, too much bad press |
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Protesters would block the path, so TV would send images of water cannons, tear gas, body-dragging arrests. There would be violence, mostly done by cops and other security folks.
I think "the authorities" really want to get that torch from a starting point to an ending point, then get it the hell out of town. It's not a celebration this time, it's a bad show.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:37 PM
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22. to minimize the possibility of violence |
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It's bad enough as it is.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:30 PM
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11. Screen capture, for anyone not watching: |
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:31 PM
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15. The 2008 Fascist Olympics..... |
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:31 PM
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13. It's a shame that the IOC picked |
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Beijing to host this summer's games.
Given China's government's involvement with the crisis in Darfur and Tibet it's little wonder protesters are coming out in droves, everywhere the torch appears.
No, it's not suppose to be about politics, BUT Communist China's attempt to show the world a tolerant and open minded profile just isn't working- we know too much.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:32 PM
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16. I wonder what the Totalitarian Games will look like. |
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And how the Chinese will deal with foreign protesters in their country.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:36 PM
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21. Tekisui, I've wondered the same thing. |
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How in the hell are they going to handle foreign protesters in China and will we even find out about it? ( if there are problems)
:shrug:
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:33 PM
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17. Hershel Walker wants to try out his MMA skills on any protestors that attack him... |
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... And while I'm not "Fucking who care what fucking rich fucking crybaby athletes say" like most DUers, he is a jackass about this issue. Tho it stems from his support of the the Olympic athletes, he takes it way too far.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:35 PM
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20. by changing the route it appears they may have created more craziness |
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:37 PM
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23. That's just stupid - getting into a hitech-communication battle with SFers. Good luck winning that. |
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:46 PM
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:49 PM
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36. Changing the route is a challenge to the protesters to find it. When 1 dude finds it... |
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... he's gotta communicate the info to the rest of the mob somehow. At instant mass communication is SF people's forte (inventors of the flash mob and what-not).
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:37 PM
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24. Uh, one of my best friends is an SF Sheriff Dept |
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Edited on Wed Apr-09-08 04:41 PM by ronnykmarshall
She is not a fascist boot thug.
:grr:
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:40 PM
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28. Alright. Fascist Boot Thugs minus one. |
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:38 PM
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25. I guess that torch needs a "free speech zone" ... |
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I wonder who's paying for all that security?
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:39 PM
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26. It's also so wonderful listening to the authoritarian press talk about... |
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... how the protesters are ruining the spirit of the games.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:40 PM
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27. I wonder too. Who is paying for this security? |
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:45 PM
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Overtime for SFPD and SFSD. I'm pretty sure my friend who's a deputy w/ the SFSD is getting OT for this. The SFSD normally only works in the jails, courtroom and city hall. If they have to be called out to work on the streets they get OT because someone had to cover their normal shifts.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:44 PM
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31. Just got in from the non-event -- |
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I've been down at the ballpark since 11:30am and just got in -- I cannot believe what a clusterfuck this was!! :mad:
We had no idea what was going on -- there were no announcements made, we were just left in the dark. Some of the people had been there since 6:00am to see this event and they were upset and disappointed that we were getting stiffed like this. We only figured out it was not going to happen when all the cops and cop cars started moving away from the ballpark.
{b]There was NO damn reason to move the route!!! :mad: :mad:
Yes there were a lot of people, yes things got a bit heated at times between the two camps, but the police presence was heavy and I have no doubt the City could have handled the protest just fine.
This is just sooo goddamn fucked -- I cannot wait to see who pulled the plug on this, or if this was the plan from the start. :mad: :mad:
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Wed Apr-09-08 05:33 PM
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43. Thanks for the update, HHNF. |
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This is a mess, that's for sure.
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Wed Apr-09-08 04:45 PM
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33. DId you know that the last head of the IOC ,Samarach, |
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was a good loyal fascist for Franco.
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http://www.transparencyinsport.org/andrew.htmlhttp://www.playthegame.org/Knowledge%20Bank/Authors/Andrew%20Jennings.aspxLots of great articles in the Knowledge Bank. Start with these two. Organised Crime and the Olympics Sport, Lies and Stasi-Files - A Golden Opportunity for the Press I have all of Andrew's books. The IOC tried to have Lords of the Rings banned and FIFA tried to have FOUL banned.
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Wed Apr-09-08 05:16 PM
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39. Closing ceremonies for the torch run canceled. |
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