Randi Rhodes "no longer an employee of Air America"

[Strelnikov_]

http://www.green960.com/cc-common/mainheadlines2.html?feed=213008&article=3493425

Randi Rhodes GONE from Air America

We have been very frustrated the past few days in our efforts to rectify the Randi Rhodes Situation (her suspension by her network, Air America Radio). It is our understanding that today (April 9th) she is no longer an employee of Air America. So we are bringing her back."

Monday, April 14th at 4pm... it will be our pleasure to announce the return of Randi Rhodes to the Green 960 family.


Watch the video below that chronicles the timeline of the circus, and our efforts to do what's right for the vast majority of Green960 listeners that support her.


Thanks to dg10348 in another thread for catching this. About 2/3rd's of the way into Seder's show today, on the SammyCam, the people in New York told Sammy to check his IM, sounded like some AAR business, and he seemed somewhat subdued, and a little testy, following this.

[AX10]

1. It's only fair (if true).

If Imus could be fired, then so can Randi.

[MadBadger]

2. Imus was on the public airwaves, Randi was at a nightclub.

[gateley]

3. Agree - valid distinction.

I'm so sorry this has happened.

[Fuzz]

10. Ditto

[bdamomma]

97. me too.

again, she said this not on the air. so unfortunate we need all the progressive voices we can get.

[demasiado]

6. But if Hillary called Randi a "big f--ing wh---" in a nightclub"

I don't think the setting would make much of a difference.

[Name removed]

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[Eric J in MN]

16. I wouldn't want Hillary Clinton to resign from the Senate if she did that. NT

NT

[Kittycat]

23. Randi isn't a public official, or running for POTUS.

It's called freedom of speech. She was at an event paid for by another organization, that had nothing to do with AA.

[Bake]

93. Once again, this has NOTHING to do with freedom of speech.

The 1st Amendment says what the GOVERNMENT cannot do with regard to speech. This is a private employer. Totally NOT a "free speech" issue. Get it through your heads, people. NOT A FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUE.

But the Randi ho's don't care about that. You were all cheerleading when Imus got fired, and it wouldn't have mattered if it were on or off the air.

Bake

[rhett o rick]

139. I am clearly not a "Randi ho". I don't particularly care to listen to her although

I love her, I must say. I love her passion. But the reason AAR censured her upsets me. The right wing whacko's can literally get away with anything, racial, sexist, anything. But a lefty, oh no. Must be censured. I am very disappointed with AAR. I think they are becoming corporatized.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

98. She does have freedom of speech

but her job involves speaking to the public and she is associated with her employer who has every right to fire her. Randi's free speech rights were not violated..

[Mezzo]

78. She was at a public event...and while I don't agree with firing outright...

I did agree with the suspension. If she had called Michelle Obama a fucking whore, you'd be up and arms too.

[proud2BlibKansan]

87. Actually it was a PRIVATE event

closed to the public.

[Freddie Stubbs]

101. Wasn't it at an Air America affiliate event?

:shrug:

[Eric J in MN]

13. I didn't support Don Imus' firing, and I don't support Randi Rhodes' firing. NT

NT

[John Q. Citizen]

14. yes, we need hilalrey to help limit free speech America will never be great if people can say mean

things about Hillary without suffering sever consequences.

It's time we shut up those who would denigrate our wonderful future leader. They must learn some respect!

[Mezzo]

79. that's horseshit and you know it.

Hillary didn't get anybody fired. Randi got Randi fired. And while I disagree with it, I can see the diff between AAR management and the HRC campaign.

[nadinbrzezinski]

118. Actually a Hillary Supporter got RR fired, using a well trotted technique

he learned while in CIA.

Sorry to point this out... but their mission is to get any and all critics off the air

If he is ACTING independently he is an asshole, but if any ties are found to the campaign, then that truly does get my attention.

In case you need the name, this gentleman's name (and I use the term gentleman loosely) is Larry Johnson... who is also still an active Republican or recently converted to Indie...

[burythehatchet]

120. It was Johnson??? Holy crap. I don't like Randi and stopped supporting AAR

over a year ago, but this is truly bizarre. Each day that passes convinces me that Hillarity loves the BushCo model of governance.

[nadinbrzezinski]

132. Go to Green960 website and you will get the scoop

He did... took a tape from their site, edited it and created a stir

This is called a character assassination hit

And if he was acting independently that is one thing... but if there is one iota of connection beyond the link from his site to HIllary's site... that gets fully my attention. Follow that the reaction of partisans and I am smelling a hit... not that I cannot prove it... straight prove it

[nadinbrzezinski]

62. So we should fire you from your job for saying something your company

does not like DURING A PRIVATE event?

Got it.

I just love how partisans are all for freedom of speech :sarcasm:

[Bake]

94. "We" shouldn't do anything. One's employer might, however.

This is not a free speech issue. Where were you when Imus got fired? Leading the cheers, no doubt. It really is irrelevant whether Randi was on the air or off. The comments became public and embarassed her employer. My employer would do the same thing if I crapped all over our clients, and they would be right to do so.

The government (you know, the one actually RESTRICTED by the 1st Amendment) didn't do ANYTHING here.

Bake

[SidDithers]

102. Why is this such a difficult concept for people to grasp?...

Good post.

Sid

[nadinbrzezinski]

115. Because we all know that private events we should watch what we say

less our employer or the government crap on us

This is the problem with CORPORATE RULE... your theoretical rights are down the tubes and we only have those rights we are willing to defend

It appears freedom of speech is NOT one of them any more

Why is this concept so hard to grasp I really don't understand either.

[SidDithers]

126. Did the government prevent her from voicing her opinions?...

No? Then it's not an issue of free speech.

Do you know the details of her employment contract? No?

Then it's an issue between her and her employer.

Free speech does not mean speech completely without consequences. Sometimes, when you say something really stupid, you pay the price. Especially if you're a celebrity / public-figure, and the image of your employer is tied into your own behaviour (whether you're "on the clock" or not).

You can rant on about CORPORATE RULE all you want, but the fact of the matter is that she is not entitled to a broadcasting position at AAR. If she behaved in a way that negatively impacted the image that her employer is seeking to cultivate, AND there is language in her contract that warns against that type of behaviour, then her employer has every right to protect their interests.

Sid

[nadinbrzezinski]

134. Sid when the history of this period is written so many parallels to other

periods of both US history and world history will be drawn

Including the creeping corporatism.

Congratulations.

Oh and I don't expect to agree with you, or for you to agree with me.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

100. Depends

Am I a personality who is public facing and people know who I work for? If I were for example a public PR person for my company and I called someone an f***ing B**** then yes they would be within their rights.

If, otht, I am a cubicle monkey and I do it then it gets grey..

[nadinbrzezinski]

116. What part of PRIVATE event are you folks missing?

By the way... yes, by the logic you are using, you COULD and SHOULD be fired... since you have surrendered that right to the corporation

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

119. Private?

Sheesh you make it sound like she was in her living room or something..

"Ms. Rhodes used vulgar language that likened Mrs. Clinton to a prostitute at an event sponsored by KKGN, the Air America affiliate in the San Francisco area"

It was an event with an AAR affiliate! Im sorry but if I start screaming at work or even a work related event (private or not) that so and so is an f***ing whore I fully expect a pink slip and Im not even a public face.

[nadinbrzezinski]

135. Go to 960 and LISTEN to their side of the story

I know many folks here are CELEBRATING, that pooty mouth is off the air... WOOOHOOO! (She is not)

The creeping corporatism truly SCARES ME SHITLESS

Stick a fork in this country... she's done

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

137. What is her side

of going to an event sponsored by an AAR affiliate and cursing out a presidential candidate?

Thats *not* private, its completely unprofessional and even though *I agree with her* I would have drop kicked her faster than AAR did.

I dont like the way that AAR has been conducting itself in other matters but on this one they were *dead on*

[Spike89]

129. Air America says they paid her way to the event

She was also promoted as "Air America's Randi Rhodes" at an Air America affiliate fundraiser... public or private, the facts seem to show she was representing her employer. And yes, if you're a spokesperson for a company, they have the right to fire you if they don't like the way you represent them. Otherwise, OJ might still be hurdling barriers in airports advertising for Hertz, after all, he committed his murders on his own time and didn't actually get convicted. The 1st amendment doesn't promise that you'll get paid for talking!

[nadinbrzezinski]

136. Listen to the Green360 AM... oh never mind...

The applause to the creeping corporatism truly creeps me up

[TriggerGal]

66. Did you ...

go to the GREEN 960 page?

watch the GREEN 960 video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8aCay5e6lU

[liberal1973]

68. This has nothing to do with imus.

By the way are you a Clinton supporter?

[apocalypsehow]

123. Can't bring yourself to limit your noxious shilling to GD: P, eh?

n/t.

[saracat]

4. I am saddened that randi demeaned herslf so badly . Her behavior reflected badly on the left.

[John Q. Citizen]

38. Hill crossed the line when she endorsed McCain over Obama. Where I come from, people in bars

routinely say that Hillary is a fucking whore.

They aren't talking about selling sex for money; They are talking about selling out anyone and everyone for power. They are talking about saying or doing anything to get elected. They are talking about political whoredom.

Like when Hillary crossed the line and endorsed a Repo scum bag over Obama.
Talk about demeaning herself. Hillary got herself fired as a potential presidential candidate.

After those repeated remarks is when the shift took place in the party, and a number of party powers started moving toward Obama. So did a lot of rank and file and rank and file supers. Look at the polls. You can see the movement.

Randi is a big girl and I'm sure she will do fine for herself. If they fired her for speaking her mind at a night club, I'd like to see a piece of the law suit she will win. Or maybe they just paid off the remainder of her contract. Or maybe she isn't fired.

If what radio personalitiies said at the bar made me sad, that would be really sad.

[DadOf2LittleAngels]

103. Are those people in bars

having their comment on youtube? are those people obvious employees of media companies?

[liberal1973]

69. What?

[live love laugh]

77. Stupid posts like yours are worse. nt

[burythehatchet]

121. cosigned

[lapfog_1]

5. AirAmerica no longer has anyone on that I care

about other than Rachel Maddow... and I think she is due to leave for MSNBC greener pastures very soon (with a show of her own).

[otohara]

89. Thom Hartman??

he's so smart and a pleasure to listen to.

[lapfog_1]

110. Yeah, I like him too

but he is on when I can't listen very often...

plus, I am streaming all of my programs from either Green960 or novaM... since I listen to Mike Malloy as well.

Air America as a network is dead. Air America as a content provider might survive.

Sam Seder as good too (although i find his voice a little irritating sometimes... I hope Sam finds another home too.

[bdamomma]

99. Rachel is great, but Sam is still valuable too.

Sam is still hanging on, he is too good for AAR. Oh yea, Thom is good too.

[bkcc]

113. Agreed.

AirAmerica isn't long for this world, I fear.

I mean, who the heck is anyone going to tune in to hear? Lionel?
Maddow has too bright a future to hitch her wagon to this dying horse much longer.

[Bozita]

7. Video no longer available. That was the error message. ... Could this be ...

... bullshit?

[Eric J in MN]

24. The video plays on my machine. NT

NT

[liberaltrucker]

31. Video worked fine for me

And I have a very low WiFi signal.

:shrug:

[Bozita]

41. Works now. Thanks.

[grassfed]

8. Don't cross the Clintons

Esp leading up to a significant primary like PA. Randi also made the unforgivable comment that Hillary will "pull a Lieberman" if she loses the nomination. Which is very likely and would ensure Hillary and McCain's sacred PNAC plans.

[Eric J in MN]

28. I don't believe Hillary Clinton will run as an independent in 2008.

Joe Lieberman was a US Senator from CT for 18 years before he ran as an independent.

Hillary Clinton has never been president.

[grassfed]

58. 2nd best for her is securing PNAC via MCain

and why certain people in this thread - take a guess - are apeshit berserk for Hillary after her multitude of indefensible abominations.

google "League of Democracies" for instance.

[liberal1973]

70. Hillary Clinton will never be President

[otohara]

90. How About Don't Go Put Your Job In Jeopardy

by being an ass! She got caught on YouTube.

[marmar]

9. So maybe she'll join NovaM......

.... where they seem less concerned about muzzling people.

[newmajority]

11. If this is true, Randi will be back soon enough. Most likely on the Nova M network.

Three of the original AAR founders, Sheldon & Anita Drobny and John Manzo are there, as well as Mike Malloy. And Sam Seder has filled in often for Mike, so he might defect to Nova M as well. Air America could offer him Randi's time slot, if this story is true, but I doubt they will. Mark Green, or whoever the Hell is in charge over there now, is obviously a RABID Clinton/DLC tool, and won't likely put anyone in that time slot who doesn't kiss Hillary's ass.

[ClassWarrior]

48. And Mr. Manzo used to be Randi's producer.

NGU.

[KharmaTrain]

67. With What Money?

All these networks are barely keeping the lights on right now. Ad revenues have collapsed and owning a radio station now is like being in sub-prime hell. They're all but subsidizing the Phoenix station and haven't been able to add any more...they're cashed out like the rest of the industry.

[Marr]

12. You insult the party establishment at your peril, it seems.

[newmajority]

17. Just like with old Joe

Stalin, that is. Not Lieberman, although he's probably a big fan.

[tridim]

18. This might be the final nail in AAR's coffin

They don't have much talent left.

I hope Randi is syndicated by Nova M all across the country. She's the #1 progressive host in America, thus in high demand.

[Purveyor]

19. If so...Air America is 'dead to me'. Ann Arbor, MI - WLBY 1290 AM take note! eom

[file83]

32. Here, here!!! I concur.

:thumbsup:

[jgraz]

20. Holy shit. They had better give that slot to Sam Seder.

Besides Rachel, Sam's the best host they have left. Wow, it's sad to see AAR tank like this.

[Eric J in MN]

21. If Sam Seder returns to 5 days a week, then I hope he gets a co-host.

I liked it better when he did the show with Janeane Garofalo.

[jgraz]

30. Two words: Marc Maron

:bounce:

[Eric J in MN]

33. Good idea. NT

NT

[Norrin Radd]

105. Just saw him in Seattle doing stand-up. Haven't laughed so hard

in a long time. He's great.

[newmajority]

131. Doubt that. Maron's been filling in for Malloy the last few days

but he says he doesn't have any desire to return to radio permanently. Maybe if Sam & Randi landed at Nova M, he might rethink that

[tularetom]

22. Is Air America the biggest disappointment ever or what?

They've manage to run off or shit can almost anybody with brains or balls. Only Rachel Maddow and Tom Hartmann among their regular hosts are worth shit and my guess is they'll be gone soon.

I stuck with them through the Malloy firing because bill orally was trashing them on a daily basis. I even defended them after they fired the morning guy Mark whatever.

I think this is a Clinton/DLC operation and management is discouraging clinton bashing.

In any event it seems to be awfully poorly managed. It's like they really don't want to make money.

[newmajority]

25. Mark Maron is guest hosting for Malloy this week on Nova M, BTW

If his show isn't on the radio in your area, you can stream from www.novamradio.com

[tridim]

27. They've been tainted for awhile now. It's a loss, but not the end of progressive radio.

Nova-M is poised for a big move.

[otohara]

92. Randi Had Nothing To Do With This

such an innocent bystander in this mess. Just like when she supposedly got "mugged", then she wasn't mugged, then she blamed everyone else for blowing it out of proportion when the kid who answered the phone at AAR that night relayed what she said, which was "she was mugged" yuck, yuck.

She put other jobs at risk, she put ad dollars at risk, and ratings.

She probably refused to apologize, just like Geraldine Ferraro refused to apologize and what did she get called for not backing down "a big fucking whore".

[bunkerbuster1]

112. No, it's not. It's survived against the odds. Keep some perspective...

I completely support Randi and wish her the best, and I think she'll kick ass with another employer.

That said, Mark Green is trying to put together a viable business with a moderate, center-left appeal to a lot of people who have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ELSE to listen to out there.

I think we are big enough to have both AAR and Nova-M out there shaping the public debate. I think AAR is not done yet; furthermore, darkly intimating that this is a "clinton/dlc operation" really doesn't do the operation justice.

It's kinda like (say) Ed Schultz. The guy annoys me sometimes, but in the end, he's one of the good guys, compared to the vast majority of crap broadcasters out there.

Let's try not to forget that.

(BTW, I thought Randi's monologue that started all this was pretty damn funny, myself. But I can see how it was incompatible with the official AAR "we'll support either Dem nominee no matter what" stance.)

[Botany]

26. I think Randi told Green to "stick up his ass"

Although I thought she was getting nasty to callers on the
air but htis had nothing to do w/ that .... she was in a nightclub
and not working for Air America. BTW she was spot on about
Hillary and Geraldine Ferraro both of them were in the gutter
trying to drag Obama down. So much for free speech.

[liberal1973]

71. Perhaps

[Alameda]

29. I love Randi, stupid to let her go!

I hate to say it, but I was wondering how long Randi would be able to get away with what she was saying. I actually had more hope for our "democracy" listening to her. She was saying some pretty hot things. At least Green 960 will still play her show. I love Randi, ever though she does get funky sometimes, her information is excellent.

[Maraya1969]

34. What the hell is ann couter doing on the teevee?

And where is this new station randi is on? I hope I get a better reception.

The woman is smart. I learned a lot from her. As opposed to limburger and the street clowns he runs around with.

[housewolf]

54. San Francisco Bay Area

you might have to listen online

[mountainvue]

35. She probably refused to apologize. n/t

[Diane R]

44. I wonder if that's true. Wasn't Chris Matthews forced to apoogize to the Clintons?

[shellgame26]

36. Know your enemy

And all this time we thought it was ONLY Bush who was undemocratic. Randi never feared reprisal for criticising the current administration. Only after she dared to cross the mighty Clinton's path it became 'necessary' to silence her. That should give everyone enough warning about what kind of person HRC is and what she represents. I know the mantra is "I'll vote for whoever wins the primary" NOT THIS TIME! IF this is what happens when you speak out against the actions of someone in power then I DO NOT WANT THAT PERSON IN POWER.

[Bake]

95. Excuse me, but I don't think Hillary fired her.

Unless she was secretly working for HRC ... :rofl:

Take it up with AAR.

You people crack me up. First it was a free speech/1st Amendment issue (NOT!), and now it was Hillary who fired her.

Bake

[BenDavid]

37. I suspect this isn't Randi's first suspension and now let go from

AAR. As for those who seem outraged by Air America's decision to suspend her, now fired her, I remind them that Randi was not only telling half of all loyal Democrats to go fuck themselves, but half of Air America's listening audience as well. That tends to be bad for business.

[itsrobert]

39. Nope. She was telling half the audience to pull their heads out of their asses.

I'm 100 percent behind Obama now.

[John Q. Citizen]

49. Dorthy Parker said, "You can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think."

Some people feel more comfortable with their heads up their asses.

Randi was in a bar doing improve. She called it like she sees it, and that completely upset some very insecure people. They got real upset.

It's interesting though the varied yet similar themes a number of intelligent people have arrived at. That one reporter on MSNBC, upset that Chelsea is trying to be both a campaign surrogate and a private person brought up prostitution in relation to the Clintons, and so did Randi. Neither was speaking in the sense of selling sex services for money, but rather in a political prostitution sense.

[Bake]

96. Perhaps they got upset that she was pissing off half their audience.

A business decision, plain and simple. Not a free speech issue.

Olbermann's doing it too -- pissing off half his audience. That's bad for bidness, any way you cut it.

Bake

[Eric J in MN]

45. She wasn't suspended from AAR before this controversy. NT

NT

[Yael]

56. But did she refer to any of them as "white devils"?

Because for me, that is a line.

[SammyWinstonJack]

40. I like Sam!

[liberal1973]

74. Sam is a good guy

,but I will still be listening to Randi on Monday. If she is still on the entire week, then I will catch her on then too.

[proud2BlibKansan]

42. I don't get it

She is fired from AAR but Green 960 will play her show?

Who else is playing her show?

And hey, FUCK YOU Larry Johnson. You are a SLIME.

[clbuck]

43. I'm guessing she might be self-syndicated?

Or she might be doing a show just for Green 960.

[Eric J in MN]

47. We'll probably find out Monday (if not sooner.) NT

NT

[Canuckistanian]

46. AAR is dead, this is the final straw

First Marc Maron. Then Mike. Then Sam.

Now Randi.

Who do they have left?

LIONEL??????

[proud2BlibKansan]

50. Amen

No one worth listening to. I don't like Sam Seder. (But I would NEVER want him fired. I just don't care for him.)

[libnnc]

51. For those who missed Mike Malloy's take on this

http://premium.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1193761_d5doa/MalloyShow3Apr08_ReRandiAAR.mp3

He explains it all here.

[tnlefty]

83. I heard the show in real time, but thanks for

posting this as it's a keeper. :hi:

[SalviaBlue]

109. Thanks for posting this, I missed it.

Some of what Mike Malloy said about Randi Rhodes and AAR:

“Randi Rhodes is an ass kick’n, name take’n, don’t tread on me, damn you, talk show host.”

“What the hell are you doing AAR; what do you think you have besides Randi Rhodes?”

“This is about manipulation by the right wing and corporate America. When they can take out Randi Rhodes, the only asset AAR has, you better pay attention.”

"Its not what she said, its who she said it about."

Love Mike Malloy
Love Randi Rhodes

[AtomicKitten]

52. Oh, hell yes. She'll be on MY local station.

I support free speech.

[Califooyah Operative]

53. I hope everyones happy. nt

[housewolf]

55. AAR's website still has Randi pictured in their line-up

I wonder if they know yet that she's not coming back????

Just a thought. I'm sure we'll find out more tomorrow.

[Orsino]

111. therandirhodesshow.com now points you to AAR's home page...

...as does the Randi link there. They haven't redesigned the site, but they've made a DNS change.

And yet the domain registration is in Randi's name. Huh.

edit: from networksolutions.com...

Registrant:
Randi Rhodes
(DOM-260222)
3 Park Ave
40th Fl
New York
NY
10016
US

Domain Name: therandirhodesshow.com

Registrar Name: Markmonitor.com
Registrar Whois: whois.markmonitor.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.markmonitor.com

Administrative Contact:
Jeff Vettrus
(NIC-1488649)
THEWEBSITEBUILDERS.com
6091 Fall River Dr
New Port Richey
FL
34655
US
[e-mail]
+1.7273750407
Fax- +1.7752566479
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Center Network Operations
(NIC-1321882)
Alldomains.com
1800 Sutter St.
Suite 100
Concord
CA
94520
US
[e-mail]
+1.9256859600
Fax- +1.9256859620

Created on..............: 2002-Oct-07.
Expires on..............: 2006-Oct-07.
Record last updated on..: 2006-Dec-29 14:39:32.

[B Calm]

57. I hope she joins Malloy on Nova M. Nova M is growing!

[Zachstar]

59. I refuse to Listen to Air America anymore. And I am against pirating video.

Air America your shows mostly sucked and when you took Rhodes off the air to save your cooperate behind you lost a listener and likely many more.

Air America you have lost your good talk shows and you have lost your good name over the years in my view. You failed to get it back.

[LTR]

60. I'm still a little skeptical

Especially since I know how people jump to conclusions on the web, particularly at DU.

Sounds like Green 960 is frustrated with not hearing what's going on at AAR, so they're forcing their hand. Or perhaps Randi is gone.

I can't imagine AAR getting rid of their highest profile host, especially since they spent the past year heavily pushing Rhodes' show to radio stations. This is suicide. But leave it to AAR to screw anything up.

http://ltradio.blogspot.com/2008/04/rhodes-coming-back-with-or-without-air.html

[bbgrunt]

61. I hope she joins NovaM and ends up on many

AAR affiliates like Malloy. And given that XM's "Air America Radio station" carries both Malloy and Ed Schultz, let's hope that they will still carry Randi too!!

[renate]

63. I've never liked her, can't stand to listen to her, but this is a shame

When people like Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, et al are allowed to pollute the airwaves and we still have to defend the principle of free speech, it's kind of embarrassing when the left does this kind of thing.

I hope there's more to this story than censorship. And the truth is that there's almost always more to a news story--or to any conflict between two parties--than the rest of us are privy to know. I sure hope that's the case this time.

[liberal1973]

73. I enjoyed listening to her

I will listen to her on Monday.

[orleans]

64. i can't get on her message board

i'm logged in but it's telling me i don't have permission to view the board.

i am only able to view posts when i do google cached

[liberal1973]

72. Does AAR own her message board?

[Cooley Hurd]

76. I don't think so...

Her site/message board has been the same since before her AAR gig.

This fucking sucks. I believed, when Green bought AAR, it was a good thing. I was wrong, wrong , wrong.:thumbsdown:

[libnnc]

122. They're screwing with her message board

and it IS HER's

She's always said that she brought that board with her to AAR.

[ronzo]

124. She did.

What a revoltin' development.
I'm sure Manzo will have that board up somewhere else soon.
I wonder how much of the old database will be intact...

[libnnc]

125. I was a member there before DU

Haven't posted there in a long time...since Tim left.


Guess I'll be a "newbie" again.

[samsingh]

65. this type of crap weakens democrats

Randi is wonderful and stood up to the fanatical right while many were drinking the coolaid.

i hope she does well in her career.

i will look out for her products to buy.

[noamnety]

75. Accepting racism and sexism by democrats

weakens democrats.

[lunatica]

80. Believing in the right to speak freely

means that sometimes you get to hear things you disagree with. But when that happens you have the right to put that freedom of speech guarantee in action by speaking out against racism and sexism. It's the responses to racist and sexist remarks that strengthen democrats. Disagreement and bad manners go with the territory and that doesn't have anything to do with 'accepting' hate language. Democrats can actually think in shades of nuanced shades of grey, unlike the present administration and their supporters who are crippled by thinking in black and white extremes.

edited for better sentence structure

[samsingh]

so if Randi said similar things about bush would you feel that

she should be fired?

[noamnety]

104. I'm having trouble with your comparison

because Bush is a straight white christian male, and I'm not able to find an apt comparison to using a general slur to remind people he's inferior based on his identity.

I can't speak for Air America, but for me the issue was never that she criticized a particular person - I will openly criticize Clinton along with the best of them. It was the use of the sexualized slurs which are used to shame women as women - as well as the gay slur she managed to slip in.

[samsingh]

86. so if Randi said similar things about bush would you feel that

she should be fired?

[SidDithers]

81. Nice to see some sanity among all the Randi worship...

well said.

Sid

[samsingh]

85. why are we stifling free comments from democrats by firing

Randi.

i really like Hillary and Obama.

so if Randi made a joke about Bush would you also think that she should get fired?

[samsingh]

84. she was in a comedy club making jokes

[Liberal In Texas]

82. Indefinite suspensions have a habit of becoming permanent.

I believe I posted that somewhere on DU right after she was suspended.

Having worked for the suits in the broadcast biz for over 3 decades, I'm sure the "indefinite" language was code for them turning it over to the lawyers to figure out how to cancel her contract and not pay it off. There may have even been an offer to lift the suspension if she would go on the air and humble herself with some huge apology and to promise not to repeat what she said. Something that would probably not be acceptable to her, and of course they would know that.

Also, in some of the shows leading up to the "incident", Randi made some occasional snipes at AAR management/owners leading one to believe that all was not well between them in the first place. The Green 960 event and the subsequent blogger attention to the excerpts was probably just enough to bring the rancor between them to a head.

The only other business type I have seen that is more volatile than radio is the bar/restaurant business. Much of the time, employees come and go with great frequency, stations change format or are bought and sold. Having a job for 4 years is considered stable in the radio world. The solidification and success of the RW Hate format and business model that we've seen develop in the last 15 to 20 years is pretty unusual historically.

Liberal radio is in it's infancy and it may take another decade for it to sort itself out. I certainly hope that Randi can find a new home and perhaps another network can coalesce around that. The more progressive voices on the airwaves the better.

[Individualist]

88. AAR is a DLC tool

[madrchsod]

91. it`s going to be interesting if chicago picks up randi

she was going against some heavy hitters in the afternoon and i do`t think sam is going to cut it in chicago/midwest area

[Puglover]

106. I would strongly suggest that everyone

watch the video Green 960 provides with this story. It told me alot that I didn't know about this "circus".

[libnnc]

117. it is quite informative

[Downtown Hound]

107. AAR sucks

They are worse than Republicans when it comes to policing speech. First Malloy and now this. They're done for, and good riddance to them. There's much better progressive radio out there, Nova M for example. AAR is corporate and DLC tool.

[mackdaddy]

108. Now have a statement on AAR main page

"STATEMENT OF CHARLIE KIREKER, CHAIR & MARK GREEN, PRESIDENT, FOR AIR AMERICA MEDIA
By Tim Einenkel

Last week Air America suspended Randi Rhodes for abusive, obscene language at a recent public appearance in San Francisco which was sponsored by an Air America affiliate station.

Air America Media was informed last night by Ms. Rhodes that she has chosen to terminate her employment with the company.

We wish her well and thank her for past services to Air America. We will soon announce exciting new talent and programming that will accelerate Air America’s growth in the future."



Do you think AAR will make it to the election? My guess is that they will be dissolved by December. Good thing Nova M is doing well, they have a better streaming audio anyhow.

[rhett o rick]

114. Thanks AAR. It was nice while it lasted, but we have to move on. You can keep

Ed Schultz.

[Tyo]

128. Ed Schultz is on the Jones network, isn't he?

I don't think he's a part of AAR, but I don't listen to him enough to know for sure.

As for Randi, I'm glad the bitch is gone. Hope she finds a better vehicle for her.... talent.

[rhett o rick]

130. Ed is also some how associated with AAR, maybe only on XM Radio. Not sure. nm

[newmajority]

133. XM radio calls their 167 channel "Air America" because it used to be exclusive

They carried a straight AAR feed 24/7 for a while, but that was before the first AAR implosion when they fired Mike Malloy.

Now they're carrying Malloy again (Nova M) and Schultz (Jones) as well as some other non-AAR shows on the weekends, so they might as well revert to the channels original name, "America Left".

[rhett o rick]

138. Ok, so when Ed said he was on AirAmerica XM Radio, it didn't mean the real AAR? Kinda confusing.

I believe I heard Ed himself say he was on AAR.

[stillcool]

127. cool..