Poll: McCain surges, now in virtual tie with Democrats. Are Americans IDIOTS, or

[still_one]

AP poll: Bush public approval at new low

http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/AP_poll_Bush_public_approval_at_new_04102008.html


Do they not realize that mccain is an extreme extention of bush. Do they not realize that Roe V. Wade WILL be overturned, EVEN IF THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER IS AT STAKE?

Do they not realize that mccain voted against the GI bill?

Do they not realize that mccain believes in a permanent prescense in Iraq?

Just look at mccain's voting record? Do they even know what he stands for?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080410/ap_on_el_pr/presidential_race_ap_poll

I hope the truckers are enjoying their high diesel prices

Do people like the debt they have accumulated, their homes being lost, their jobs being offshored

Something is rotten, and these two polls indicate the STUPIDITY OF THE PUBLIC

ANY OF OUR DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES IS HOPE, MCCAIN IS MORE DEATH AND DESTRUCTION

[flor de jasmim]

1. This is why you shouldn't believe the polls.

[gateley]

2. Was there negative

Clinton or Obama news today? Or positive McCain spin?

Usually an event or story precipitates a move like this, then it settles back down. I think.

[still_one]

I don't know, but EITHER Democratic candidate has it over mccain on the issues

I am an Obama supporter, but without hesitation will vote for the Democratic nominee

[gateley]

22. I'm with you, still-one.

And I'm at a loss as to how ANYONE could even CONSIDER McCain. Of course I thought it was ludicrous to consider that W would be elected for a second term. (Yes, I understand about the stolen election, but enough people voted for him to make it possible to pull it off.)

I was just wondering if there was an obvious reason for this movement in the polls.

I really do think it'll swing back the other way. Please God.

[polichick]

3. Apparently a lot of Americans are suckers for cowboys, soldiers and bullies...

They buy that maverick shit, and also think he'll keep them safe.

[newfie11]

13. bush couldn't tell a cow from a hog and I bet he's never been near a horse

[polichick]

15. All hat, no cattle - and yet people fell for the strutting bullshit!

[againes654]

21. The President of Mexico was on

Real Time a few months ago, and he called bush a "pick-up truck cowboy". I am not positive about the wording, but his explanation was that he went to Crawford one time, and they rode around in the pickup the whole time looking at the horses and cows.

LOL it was so freaking funny!!!!

[gateley]

25. He said Bush seemed a little afraid of horses. nt

[againes654]

38. LOL yeah

I was rolling.

[mac2]

31. Ddi they look into the cows eyes?

[bdamomma]

47. one thing that baffles me, is why do Americans what someone

to protect them, we were never like that before were we? do we need a daddy??

[ananda]

4. This is SO depressing.

Huge bummer.

[still_one]

8. I assume it is because we don't have a candidate yet, or maybe because

Americans ARE IDIOTS

hopefully the former

[mac2]

33. Or they don't like the Democratic candidates?

[still_one]

41. maybe, but compared to mccain?@#$%

[liberal N proud]

5. The media is setting us up to steal another election

[mitchtv]

6. I hope those snotty 'We don't need your vote' Dems

will wake up and start behaving with a little decorum.

[still_one]

11. We win if we stand together, otherwise we all lose. I agree /nt

[mitchtv]

24. Not gonna happen with the tone

around here. I've been a Dem for 43 years. and see it all falling apart. The attacks on the Clinton administration make Newt/Rush seem mild. It insults those who voted for him twice,

[still_one]

40. ha, I am younger, I have been a Dem for 39 years, and I think we will come

together behind whoever our nominee is

I hope..........

[Juche]

7. Most americans don't pay much attention

How many americans actually bother to have thought out discussions about politics like people at DU do? I think you are overestimating how much attention people pay. Myself included, last night I was in line for Obama tickets and had a conversation with the guy next to me who filled me in on some crimes that I didn't know about. I don't know everything either.

"Just look at mccain's voting record? Do they even know what he stands for?"

Honestly, no probably not. The campaign has just started though. If after a few months of AFL-CIO, Olbermann, DNC and 527s going at him full steam the public may change their tune.

The fact that McCain has helped block alot of legislation to help the military out by increasing healthcare, education or reducing deployment time sickens me because alot of people think 'hey he is pro troop' or some dumbass vapid heuristic.

We get the democracy we deserve.

[mac2]

35. Might be they are too busy with work, Church, and soccer games?

[Juche]

39. No time for democracy?

How long does it take to become informed about democracy and politics? A few minutes a day at most if you are smart about it. Hell just listen to informative radio in your car during your commute. Problem solved.

[mac2]

50. They take it for granted since they've never experienced

war or poverty since they were born. It and democracy have always been there.

[DCKit]

37. I've heard a psychological explanation that...

Americans (people in general) vote for the (perceived) winner - even if it against their interest. People just LOVE a winner. Hell, look at the popularity of gangsters.

The media will continue to portray McCain as popular (as they do with *) in the hopes that he will either win or the election will be close enough to steal (again) due to "reasonable doubt". Personally, I don't believe 2004 was all that close, but it's not as if we're ever going to find out.

[elocs]

9. If all Democrats support the Democratic nominee

and we snag a good percentage of the independents and others who are dissatisfied, we win, easily. Things will not be looking better in this country in the fall and the questions that need to be constantly asked of Americans during the campaign: Are you personally better off than you were 8 years ago and is this country better off than it was 8 years ago? Do you want this to continue?

[still_one]

14. I agree. ALL DEMOCRATS BETTER SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE /nt

[gateley]

30. Ooh -- PERFECT time for the "Are you better off than..." approach! nt

[SammyWinstonJack]

42. Sure and then the slimy pugs will counter with "Are you safer than..."

Play the FEAR card. It works like a charm.

[ThomWV]

10. Anyone who thinks Republicans have an even chance at the polls in November is a fool.

This next election is going to put a Democrat in the White House and more Democrats in both the House and Senate. No matter how they try to spin shit, no matter how they skew the polls, this is how its going to play out. We will win in a landslide and our win will be universal.

[Zavulon]

19. Call me a fool, then. The Repugs DO have a chance, and to underestimate them is not advisable.

Nobody digs up dirt like their spin machine does.

I think we'll win as long as Obama gets the nod, but to say the Repugs have NO chance is just as foolhardy to me as thinking they have one is to you.

Further, if Hillary somehow wrangles the nomination, I think we'll lose. Every Repug lukewarm on the same McCain they have the stupidity to call a liberal will get out and vote anyway if Hillary is running against him. Hell, I'm a Democrat and even I'm disgusted by Hillary (not enough to vote for McCain, but still...).

Never, ever, EVER underestimate the stupidity of the American voter as a whole. We got screwed in court in 2000, but the vote never should have been that close. We had a chance to fire Bush in 2004 and blew it even though Kerry handily won all three debates.

Both sides generally start with 44% and work their way from there. One well-placed October surprise could ruin everything for us. To write off the Repugs completely is the sort of overconfidence that I believe will hurt us.

[gateley]

32. "Nobody digs up dirt like their spin machine does."

And nobody MANUFACTURES dirt like they do, either.

[Zavulon]

46. You're right, that was bad phrasing on my part. Apologies. (NT)

[againes654]

36. I agree 100%

My sister said she thought it was a lock for the Democrats in Nov. I said "after the last 2 elections, how could you possibly think ANYTHING is a lock for the Democrats. I am thinking that we will attack Iran just when we finally select a nominee, and we start to over take mcsame. Then shock and awe part two comes, and mcsame can tout how "experienced" he is, and how "safe" he will keep us from the scary terrorists.

[Kolesar]

23. What has changed since November 2006?

The economy got worse and more people are without health care coverage.
Homelessness up.
The war ain't over.
Climate change is now the Democrats' issue.
The Dems have more Governors to help with local campaigning.
The Ohio Secretary of State is a Democrat, not a ruthless Republican operator.
Republican Congress-people are vacating, leaving the party with inferior candidates for open seats.
Democratic fundraising is going quite well.
Fox News is regarded as a bad joke and is ineffectual as a propaganda organ, well, damaged at least.
The Democratic candidate will be a personable, smart person.

[mac2]

29. A poster said in their area of Iowa Fox TV news was it.

They aren't getting the truth if they have no other news sources or the Internet. The Internet and cable is very expensive.

[DinahMoeHum]

12. Folks, there are still 7 MONTHS until the general election. . .

and that's an eternity in politics.

I don't care about this or any other poll until then. It's all bullshit right now.
Don't get yourselves in an uproar - work also for the Democratic candidates "down-ballot"
so that the eventual Democratic POTUS nominee will have coat-tails.

:kick::kick:

[still_one]

18. but it sure upsets me that people give bush low marks, yet his proxy

is tied with us in this poll

[Kolesar]

20. Wait until John McCain pees himself* at one of his campaign stops

I don't think Jet-fighter John has the stamina to go through with a campaign in the 21st century context. He's going to make more stupid gaffes and he is going to run out of energy. He is not going to be able to run this one from his front porch like ol' William McKinley.

*I meant that figuratively, and literally.

[Red Zelda]

16. Right

Americans are complete idiots. Welcome to Dumbfuckistan, home of the soldier-boy-king.

[mike_c]

17. in a democracy, people get exactly the government they deserve....

--Alexis de Tocqueville

[warren pease]

43. Unfortunately, this ain't one...

At least not at the state or national level.

Instead, it's something like a plutocratic oligarchical kleptocracy, I think. Government by elite, super-rich thieves who infest the powerful ownership classes and comprise all of 0.5 percent of the US population.

It's also a kleptocracy in the sense that votes are tallied, and elections therefore easily stolen, by demonstrably rigged machines, built and distributed by private corporations loyal to the GOPiggies, where votes disappear into the void, never to emerge as either a digital signal or a paper trail.

One of the more famous and outrageous examples of electronic voting machines going insane occurred in 2004 at Precinct 1B, Franklin County, Ohio, where Bush got 4,258 votes to Kerry's 260. Unfortunately for the democratic process, only 638 people from that precinct actually voted.

No matter how stupid, uninformed, apathetic, lazy, uneducated, functionally illiterate and narcotized by mass media the American electorate happens to be, nobody deserves eight years of Bushie followed by another four of this sad, vicious old fool.

And it wouldn't have a chance in hell of happening if it weren't for the goddamn voting machines, electronic scanners, computerized tabulators and the rest of the arcane processes hidden deep in silicon chips and off limits to independent analysts by order of... the top dogs at the companies who make these machines, staunch republican party supporters all, who claim they were just asserting their intellectual property rights.

What a fucking coincidence.


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[readmoreoften]

49. Wow, I wished I lived in a Democracy. But what do we get in this sort of system?

[mac2]

26. They are apparently more afraid of amnesty by Democrats.

They prefer the tried and true...white male. Both parties are pro-globalism and war. It's not their death or their children's apparantly.

[LSK]

27. meaningless right now

The sheeple just see the daily Obama/Clinton bashfest and are tired of it.

[malaise]

28. The poll is bullshit

Expect many similar bogus polls.

[KamaAina]

34. The phrase "virtual tie" is the smoking gun

Translated into English, it means "the candidate we're biased toward is still behind, just not by very much".

[spanone]

44. look at the ratio of dems to thugs who show up at the primaries...it's lies...polls are corrupt

[deacon]

45. The dems need a nominee fast. n/t

[Hekate]

48. No, Americans are not idiots. BUT, McCain is running all alone unchallenged, while 2 Dems claw...

...at EACH OTHER, NOT McCAIN.

The idiots in question are Democratic candidates and their enablers.

:argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh: :argh:

Hekate

[yurbud]

51. people still mistakenly believe it's about personalities, and unlike Bush, McCain isn't an imbecile

even though the effects of his presidency will be remarkably similar.