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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:51 PM
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Homeland Security official: Illegal migrants' employers will be prosecuted
By DIANNE SOLÍS / The Dallas Morning News

Assistant Homeland Security chief Julie Myers had some tough talk for Dallas business owners Wednesday: The crackdown on employers who hire illegal immigrants will continue. And just in case they don't believe her, she detailed recent prosecutions of managers.

Ms. Myers, in town for a luncheon hosted by the Greater Dallas Chamber of Commerce, also talked about an initiative aimed at ensuring deportation of criminal illegal immigrants in local jails.

Ms. Myers oversees Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement department, the second-largest law enforcement agency in the nation and one with a portfolio that includes a crackdown on illegal immigrants and those who employ them.

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Some employers are participating in "domestic outsourcing" by hiring illegal immigrants, Ms. Myers said. The result, she said, is that employers exploit workers with lower wages and lax adherence to safety and environmental laws.


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http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/041008dntexicemyers.3d593dc.html
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:52 PM
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1. The GOP DoJ prosecuting law breakers!?
Hahahahahahaha!
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 04:57 PM
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2. This is a good thing.
I really don't want to see families rounded up and deported. Better that the US employers who are breaking the law should be taken to task. And then you can rest assured that many illegal immigrants will go back from whence they came, of their own accord.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:18 PM
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5. Right. They'll go back to their destitute villages
made barren by the Mexican oligarchy supported by your tax dollars.

That'll work.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:33 PM
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7. You know Pat,
I wish you would at some point respect the right of US citizens to put our own interests first. This sentiment is common, and quite appropriate, in not just the US but in every other nation on earth.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:37 PM
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8. The thing is, how much more respectful can you get
Edited on Thu Apr-10-08 05:46 PM by sfexpat2000
than objecting to a government policy that displaces people in their own countries so that they have no alternative but to come here?

We pay for that. We get ripped off, coming AND going. And we're taught to blame the victms. These criminals are very efficient.

So, while it may be common to view outsiders in the way you describe, it's not accurate. And, it doesn't help us or them to misidentify the problem.

ets: I know it seems as though I'm putting "other people first". But, that's not really true. I'm fingering our government for abusing those "other" people AND us at the same time.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:08 AM
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11. You're right, it does seem as though you put "other people first"
You have a clear and consistent bias in favor of Latino immigrants. Every single problem in every single Latino nation is the fault of the evil USA, so the very least we can do is to have wide open borders and shame on us for even thinking any illegal alien should not be here.

And it's the same old song now. How dare I suggest that we should enforce US law against employers who hire illegals, when it is my tax dollars that are responsible for the destitute villages in Mexico?
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:48 AM
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13. Well considering that NAFTA has allowed US agrobusiness to steal the land of Mexican farmers
displacing 1 million Mexicans a year, where do you expect them to go? And why isn't it our responsibility as well, since we never took our leaders to task?
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:03 AM
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18. It is not my place to expect Mexicans to go anywhere.
Except to expect them not to come to, or stay in, the US without permission. If Mexicans don't like NAFTA they should take it up with their own government. I don't like it and I'm taking it up with mine.

Their government entered into an agreement and these farmers came up on the short end of the stick. The evil USA didn't "steal" their land. That's why their plight isn't my responsibility, just as Mexico isn't accountable for wages and benefits of unemployed auto workers in Detroit.

Now tell me, how would it be in the best interest of the average US citizen to welcome these 1 million Mexicans a year to our country?
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:34 AM
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12. so its ok for us to give up our jobs
My job is to be the best Citizen I can in my country, the same as their jobs should be, not to come here in the middle of the night to drive down my wages cause its easier for them to cross the border than it is to take a stand there and do as I do here, stand up for my rights.
May I ask, do you work construction or one of the jobs that is farmed out to lower wage accepters. I think not or your tune would be different, methinks
Ok has a new law that is making a difference in the wages here in Ok plus its driving down the violence that was exploding here before last novembers new law.
nothing personal but this is bs
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:07 AM
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14. When US companies stop stealing the land of subsistence farmers, Mexicans will stop coming.
NAFTA has created the problem. Global agriculture and mining concerns have gone down there and kicked subsistence farmers off their land en masse using US trained Mexican military and paramilitaries to evict them. Where do you think all your cheap Mexican coffee, cocoa, and corn comes from? The problem becomes more complicated as global multinationals own the food in Mexico now and can use crops for investing instead of feeding people. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=59&ItemID=13195 Those who have stayed and fought to keep their land have seen their women and children raped and murdered. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acteal It's our problem because we have a huge hand in the creation of the problem.

Why do you think this is "suddenly" a problem? Why has the Mexican population in the US skyrocketed in the past 15 years?

If Canadian interests stole your land and source of food, then paid for local thugs to kill your neighbors kids, what would you do? You'd start running until you could find a place to live. And if all of the US and Mexican had been destroyed by these Canadian interests, the only place you'd have left to run to would be Canada. But on the plus side, you'd already have friends and family there.

Let's look at the problem in its totality.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:26 AM
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15. over dramatization I would say
this isn't a new problem that has only cropped up in the last 15 years, this has been an ongoing problem. I ask, do you work in construction or lawn care or are you a nanny? If I was a betting person I would say prolly not. Let me see if I have this right, its my problem. kinda blaming the victim here aren't you, its my wages that are driven down by their willingness to work for pennies on the dollar, so to say.

The problem was here long before nafta

Oh, I don't run, I stand
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:52 AM
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16. Oh it's always an 'overdramatization' when you don't want to hear something isn't it.
No, it's not a 'new' problem because global capitalism isn't a 'new' problem. But the problem is getting worse and it's getting worse because of NAFTA. They're willing to work for pennies for a reason--because they're getting screwed worse than we are. Blaming the victim? Please! Are you a Democrat? Then you're partially to blame.

Listen, if you want to blame 'teh MEcxicans' like a goddamn freeper, be my guest. Four decades ago it was blaming 'teh Neggro'. Why don't you put the blame where it belongs: the corporations who use people like pigs and pit the poor against one another.

Be my guest. Stay part of the problem. See where that gets ya. And no. I don't work in construction or lawn care. I live in a Mexican neighborhood in Texas and I lived in Mexico before NAFTA. So it's my friends and my neighbors that you're blathering on about.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 06:29 AM
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19. Actually whats its getting me today is more peace
peace in knowing my bro's are not having to compete against a person who just wants a job, peace in knowing that I won't be hearing about muggings or murders in my neighborhood committed by the likes of the people who you give me a hard time about. There is a solution to this problem but its not open borders. I say stay in NY, we here in ok face our problems face on not behind a keyboard off in a safe place.
For your information my Granddad fought in the civil war to free the slaves, that was his stated goal, even though he was from a large family of slave owners in Georgia. Plus, plus, I don't blame the immigrant themselves I blame the employer's, its those people who need to pay.



Does this sound like a rational person to you? sounds like someone who needs more coffee to start with;-).

No, it's not a 'new' problem because global capitalism isn't a 'new' problem. But the problem is getting worse and it's getting worse because of NAFTA. They're willing to work for pennies for a reason--because they're getting screwed worse than we are. Blaming the victim? Please! Are you a Democrat? Then you're partially to blame.

Listen, if you want to blame 'teh MEcxicans' like a goddamn freeper, be my guest. Four decades ago it was blaming 'teh Neggro'. Why don't you put the blame where it belongs: the corporations who use people like pigs and pit the poor against one another.

Be my guest. Stay part of the problem. See where that gets ya. And no. I don't work in construction or lawn care. I live in a Mexican neighborhood in Texas and I lived in Mexico before NAFTA. So it's my friends and my neighbors that you're blathering on about.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:14 PM
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3. The Republicon Homelanders are going to find out what their wives look like...
under all that illegal alien applied hair and makeup (a HOME perm!!!!), what their yards look like without an army of illegal aliens to keep them up and that, yes, they actually have to deal with (shudder) screaming, whining Republicon Homelander children, because there's no American willing to deal with their little demons, cook their food or clean their homes for $6/hour.

The REAL "A Day Without Mexicans" is looking to be the best horror/reality epic of the millennium - for them. For middle and lower income Dem's, it'll be ranked as a comedy.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:16 PM
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4. Sure! That'll happen! n/t
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:21 PM
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6. WHAT? "Immigration and Customs Enforcement department, the second-largest law enforcement agency.."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 05:40 PM
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9. That's because of all those Mexican hijackers that flew on 9/11. n/t
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karab Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-10-08 06:04 PM
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10. wingnuts
It's hard to get worked up about this. You know the wingnuts were paying our guests slave wages.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:54 AM
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17. So when will they be prosecuting Wal Mart?
:sarcasm:
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