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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 03:37 PM
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Tell John Conyers that it's time to stand up for the country and the Constitution
Tell John Conyers that it's time to stand up for the country and the Constitution
by Weldon Berger | April 11, 2008



The news that senior Bush administration officials not only approved the use of torture but actually micromanaged the application of it should be the last straw for dithering Democrats in the House of Representatives.

We have known for years that the president and the vice president approved war crimes, including torture, on the basis of legal opinions provided by Justice Department functionaries authorizing the president to break any law in the name of national security. Now we know that Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice and other top officials dictated specific combinations of outlawed interrogation techniques—including waterboarding and physical beatings—for specific prisoners.

One of the great tragedies of the Bush administration is the lassitude, often appearing to shade into cowardice, displayed by those in opposition to it. The Democratic leadership in Congress refuses to consider impeachment as an option for dealing with a transparently criminal president and vice president, and very few major voices on the liberal end of the spectrum have chided them for it. Liberal blogging powerhouse Atrios today called Rice and company "monsters" and "war criminals" who should all be in jail for their actions; what, then, does that make House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Judiciary Committee chairman John Conyers and others who have the option of at least attempting to evict the monsters from the national house but have failed to act?

Maybe the personal involvement, the image of Condoleezza Rice sitting in the White House situation room discussing with Colin Powell and Dick Cheney how often Abu Zubaydah should be subjected to drowning, perhaps while watching the videos of their handiwork on the big screen TV—those infamous now-destroyed CIA videos—will be enough to motivate Conyers to finally begin hearings on whether or not the administration have committed impeachable offenses.

Pelosi can be written off as a lost cause: as we've noted in the past, she is herself complicit in the administration's crimes, albeit as a bystander, because she knew for years that their agenda included torture and she did nothing to stop it. If Conyers, though, is finally moved to act, Pelosi can do little to stop him without overtly incriminating herself.

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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/13975
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:22 PM
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1. K&R
:applause:
Conyers said no one, not even Nancy, was stopping him.
Well get on with it already!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:23 PM
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2. k&r
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:23 PM
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3. Just got off the phone with a staffer from my dem rep
they don't care

They are tone deaf.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:25 PM
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4. Have done it on three occasions
Two with staffers and once with Conyers himself.

These people don't seem to be moveable.

Maybe it's our fault. Maybe we need to reassess and ask why it is they are deaf to our calls and step up the actions.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:28 PM
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5. We can start by voting all of them out
serious...

They don't realize they work for us, not the other way.

THere are other things we could do... but I doubt anybody will do that or care
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TriggerGal Donating Member (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:42 PM
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6. START NOW ...
Email them daily ... with every email address you have.

Call them at least once daily.

Ask your friends and family to do the same.

They will start taking notice ... as the numbers of emails and calls grows!


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:43 PM
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7. Been on that bandwaggon for a LONG time
they are tone deaf

They won't get it until they get voted out...

I am serious

Or taken to the Hague to stand trial with the rest of the war criminals
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Fireweed247 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:51 PM
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9. exactly!
Vote in someone who will vote to join the ICC then send the enablers to the Hague. And they can take the Corporate media criminals with them!
www.peacecandidates.com
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 05:00 PM
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10. I hope I can get a front row seat for that TRIAL
oh wait, probably will never happen...

Yep, gotten real cynical, but come November I will NOT vote for my enabling Democratic Congress critter,

And in 2010 I will work to get her out in the primary... and she is still the nominee, will vote against her until she finally looses or retires

Hell, if I had the money I'd run... but it costs a cool million and a half on average... don't have that to spare
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 04:47 PM
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8. Agree, they know one thing, they still have their jobs. n/t
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:30 PM
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11. If you ran a fascist government in which you controlled all of the real avenues of power,
would you deign to listen to the rabble? Just because this looks like a Representative Republic don't make it so.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 07:43 PM
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12. K/R!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-11-08 10:46 PM
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13. I really don't care what their reasons are for not doing so...
because there are no reasons that justify inaction against a war criminal executive

but if anyone in Congress believes the torturing of people will just blow over once Bush is out of office, they have another think coming.

Chickens come home to roost.



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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-12-08 01:47 PM
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14. I would tell him but I've given up. Nobody is listening.
Not even Conyers.

Every last one of our elected officials is guilty of silence and complicity. How can a guilty person fight for us?
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