Top Bush aides oversaw torture sessions

[babsbunny]

http://www.legitgov.org/#breaking_news

11 Apr 2008 According to an ABC report, top Bush aides, including Condi Rice, micromanaged the torture of terrorist suspects from the White House basement. Discussions on torture were so detailed, that some interrogation sessions were virtually choreographed by a White House advisory group, The torture advisory group included then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, then-defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld, then-secretary of state Colin Powell, then-CIA director George Tenet and then-attorney general John Ashcroft and Vice President Dick Cheney ABC's sources said.

Cheney OK'd CIA Torture Tactics 11 Apr 2008 US Vice President Dick Cheney and his cohorts approved using harsh interrogation techniques against prisoners after asking the Justice Department to endorse their legality, the report said. The officials also took care to insulate President Bush from a series of meetings where CIA interrogation methods, including waterboarding, which simulates drowning, were discussed and ultimately approved. An anonymous former senior US intelligence official familiar with the meetings described them to the AP to confirm details first reported by ABC News on Wednesday.

[Mnemosyne]

1. Now we do know what they were/are doing on their secret trips into Iraq.

I miss my tinfoil sometimes.

[L. Coyote]

13. Don't forget the Live Video feed capability. They can be anywhere, anytime

via live video feeds. Isn't that why we have videos of torture being destroyed, because they were making them live to feed up the chain of command?

Dec-17-07 - BUSH DID IT?? Negroponte Warned CIA Against Destroying the Torture Tapes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2483457

Did the Decider directly participate in torture?

If everyone said, "Do NOT destroy the tapes" it becomes more obvious that BUSH gave the order to destroy them.

Was there a live feed to the WH Op Center and Langley during the Torture?

That would explain the rash of crimes to "Cover Up the Cover Up."

Negroponte Warned CIA Against Destroying the Torture Tapes
By Spencer Ackerman - December 17, 2007 - http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004925.php

Tally it up. Advising against destruction were: Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA) with Nancy Pelosi "concurring," Goss as both a congressman and CIA director, Harriet Miers, anonymous DOJ officials, and Negroponte. Those with an appetite for destruction were, of course, Rodriguez and, reportedly, lawyers within the CIA's operations directorate.

Add another name to the wall of fame. Newsweek reports (http://www.newsweek.com/id/78065 ) that John Negroponte -- Mike McConnell's predecessor as director of national intelligence -- told then-CIA Director Porter Goss not to destroy the torture tapes. That instruction, apparently documented, is going to be crucial: advocates for Jose Rodriguez, the CIA official who destroyed the tapes in 2005, have said that they did not receive clear instructions from their superiors firmly telling them to preserve the recordings.

In the summer of 2005, then CIA director Porter Goss met with then national intelligence director John Negroponte to discuss a highly sensitive matter: what to do about the existence of videotapes documenting the use of controversial interrogation methods, apparently includ­ing waterboarding, on two key Al Qaeda suspects. The tapes were eventually de­stroyed, and congressional investigators are now trying to piece together an extensive paper trail documenting how and why it happened.

One crucial document they'll surely want to examine: a memo written after the meeting between Goss and Negroponte, which records that Negroponte strongly advised against destroying the tapes, ....

[Canuckistanian]

15. I have visions of Hitler watching his torture films

I wonder if Shrub ever sat down with a beer and did a couple of lines while watching a live feed from Gitmo.

You KNOW Cheney would.

[Bluebear]

2. Oh, no, that could never happen in the USA. Tinfoil! Tinfoil!

:silly:

[mac2]

3. Why aren't they impeaching these monsters?

I don't want to pay them a cent for their retirement, security, or health care.

[alittlelark]

4. I M P E A C H ! ! ! n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. after tallking to teh staffer for my DEM congresscritter

and having that staffer repeat the ahem, talking points on impeachment, these fuckers will walk.

She will not get my vote, or my husband's either

[HCE SuiGeneris]

6. I'll bring the f'n table to Washington if they will only set it!

WTF is wrong with our Representatives? :mad:

[ThomWV]

7. I would not be suprised if there was real time observation and direction

Very much like a teleconference between the basement of the White House and Hell.

[Disturbed]

8. It wasn't "Just a few bad apples" applying Torture?

Was it a a top down authorized Program of Torture?

[ThomWV]

9. Wasn't it Rumsfeld that used that phrase?

Any chance he, or any of the rest of them, might have said it under oath at one time or another? Hmmmmmmmmmm?

[daleo]

10. I wonder if they had a web-cam

Condi: Slap him around for a bit.
Rummy: Now, drown him for a while.
Powell: Don't forget the stress positions.

It's like something out of a bad Nazi war movie.

[Disturbed]

11. Is that why the CIA destroyed the Torture Tapes?

Maybe there were Busholini Regime criminals standing around during the sessions?

[ThomWV]

12. They wouldn't have used the web, they would have used a secure communications link

People tend to forget, one of the duties of the NSA is to provide secure communications for their clients. They have their own communications system and satellites, bet on it.

[L. Coyote]

14. USG has another Internet of its own, the military web would be a common name.

That has been so since the Internet was spun off of it, and the Internet, from inception, was a military project.

[L. Coyote]

16. Disentangling Torture TapeGate

ProSense Dec-12-07 - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2455254
Disentangling Torture TapeGate

Disentangling Torture TapeGate
By Larry Johnson on December 10, 2007 - http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/10/disentangling-torture-tapegate

After querying former intelligence officers and reviewing the letter from the U.S. Attorney’s in Richmond, Virginia, I can clarify some issues surrounding what’s what with respect to the question of the “destruction” of interrogation tapes and speculate on others.

The bottom line is: Jose Rodriguez, the recently retired Deputy Director of Operations, has been fingered as acting unilaterally, but that is not true ................

[Supersedeas]

19. thanks for the links

[L. Coyote]

17. K & R & Impeach two too, or more!

[Octafish]

18. War Criminals

Traitors, too.