Boycott China.

[Boojatta]

Don't buy any product that says "made in China" or "made in PRC" or that doesn't say where it was made. Note: the address of the company "for whom" the product was made is irrelevant.

Note: this might make it difficult or impossible to shop at Walmart. However, as Martha Stewart might say, that's a good thing!

[Bonobo]

1. Why? We are worse human rights offenders than they are.

[Zynx]

5. Outside of the Iraq War I challenge you to back up that statement.

[Bonobo]

6. Well, Iraq "War" should not be overlooked. But what about Incarceration Rates?

We steal the liberty from more of our citizens per capita then any other nation.

[Greyhound]

13. The loophole of the "American protectorates" is another.

We allow, and even encourage, the captivity, forced labor, and abuse, of thousands of unwilling workers in sweatshops that get to sew a "made in America" label into and on all sorts of products, without any of the protections of our laws. As has happened so often in the past, we never fixed this issue that goes back to the 19th century, we just exported it out of sight and then pretend it no longer exists.

The sugar industry is another most egregious offender.

There are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of further examples for anyone that cares to look.

Will this "challenge" be answered, or like so many times in the past, will this person just run away after spewing on a thread?
:eyes:

[Jack_DeLeon]

16. I disagree with the war on drugs...

but here in the US we atleast can protest and urge our representatives to change the laws, and I'm sure eventually marijuana will be legalized. Thats not very likely if you live in the People's Republic.

[OhioChick]

2. I've been doing this for some time....

however, there are "some" items that you have no choice over. (Can't find them made in any other country other than China)

Also: Some boxed items have a big ass American flag on the box. If you look at the bottom of the box you can usually find "Made in China."

[mrJJ]

3. Its the PRC Enablers

Boycott The PRC's Political Enablers

As Chinese authorities have clamped down on unrest in Tibet and jailed dissidents in advance of the 2008 Olympics, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has taken a strong public stance, calling for restraint in Tibet and urging President Bush to boycott the Olympics opening ceremonies in Beijing.

But her recent stern comments on China's internal crackdown collide with former President Bill Clinton's fundraising relationship with a Chinese Internet company accused of collaborating with the mainland government's censorship of the Web. Last month, the firm, Alibaba Inc., carried a government-issued "most wanted" posting on its Yahoo China homepage, urging viewers to provide information on Tibetan activists suspected of stirring recent riots.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-clintonchina13apr13,0,499290.story

[Cresent City Kid]

4. Remember Wal-Mart's "Made in the USA" sloagan?

That seems like ancient history. Our trade deficit with China isn't just a case of we buy more of their stuff than they buy ours. We ship them raw materials, and they use them to make lead-laden garbage, made in low-wage, polluting facories. Because times are tough here, some can only afford Wal-Mart prices, or find Wal-Mart jobs. We need to break the cycle.

[stimbox]

7. Statement opposing anti-China campaign

Statement opposing anti-China campaign
Tuesday, April 8, 2008

A PSL press release

We are opposed to the campaign of disinformation and demonization that is targeting the People’s Republic of China (PRC.) The timing of the campaign is linked to China’s hosting of the 2008 Summer Olympics. That the Olympics are taking place in China is of historic significance and great pride to all the country’s people. It was less than six decades ago that China emerged from a century of colonialist humiliation at the hands of the same big powers that are spearheading the China-bashing campaign today.

Washington is providing financial, political, diplomatic and propaganda support to the racist demonization effort, supposedly because of concern for “human rights.” This is the same government that is directly responsible for the death of one million Iraqis since 2003.

While one out of every three Iraqis have been killed, wounded or displaced since 2003 the US government is eager to have people in the US., especially students, protest any government other than their own. One pretext for the anti-China campaign is the fact that the PRC has trade relations with Sudan. The US wants to overthrow the government of oil-rich Sudan and replace it with a puppet. It has supported “rebel groups” who are prolonging the civil war. The people of the Sudan, who are suffering greatly, are cynically used as a fund raising vehicle by organizations that have raised tens of millions of dollars but have never spent a penny actually helping the people of Sudan, including those who live in the Darfur region.

Demonization campaigns against particular countries and their leaders are not just media exercises. Over the last two decades, such campaigns have preceded the invasions of Iraq and Panama, the bombing war against Yugoslavia, the coups in Haiti and attempted coup in Venezuela, and a threatened war against Iran. The pattern is clear and so too is the danger.

Regarding Tibet, for many centuries a region of China, the hand of Washington in the latest events is obvious for anyone who wants to see. For more than 50 years, the CIA and other U.S. government agencies have trained, funded, coordinated and supported the old feudal and repressive regime in Tibet represented by the Dalai Lama. The CIA front group the National Endowment for Democracy funds the International Campaign for Tibet, the Tibetan Youth Congress, the Tibetan People’s Uprising Movement and the Dalai Lama himself. The U.S. maintains close ties with the Tibetan “government-in-exile” in India, whose real aim is to break away a region making up a quarter of China’s territory. These U.S. actions constitute an effort to de-stabilize and dismember the Peoples Republic of China. The progress in education, women’s rights, employment and health care would be immediately eviscerated if the old serf-owning ruling elite, represented by the Dalai Lama, was brought back to power.

No one, least of all progressive people, should be misled about what is really going on. The real motivation for the anti-China campaign has nothing to do with human rights or liberation, and everything to do with an agenda of global domination.

We the undersigned call for an end to the disinformation and demonization campaign against China, and a halt to the attempts to boycott and disrupt the 2008 Olympics.

Initial Signers:

Ramsey Clark, former U.S. Attorney General
Muna Coobtee, Party for Socialism and Liberation
Tony Gonzales, American Indian Movement-West*
Richard Becker, Western Region Coordinator, ANSWER Coalition*
Dave Ewing, Co-Chair,U.S.-China Peoples Friendship Association,San Francisco
Willie Bartolome, Coordinator, Philippine Peasant Support Network (Pesante)-USA
Arturo P. Garcia, Philippine Immigrant Network for Empowerment
Bob Anderson, Stop the War Machine, Albuquerque, New Mexico*
Chuck Kaufman, Co-Coordinator, Nicaragua Network*
Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, Civil Rights Attorney
Peter Erlinder, Law Professor, former President of the National Lawyers Guild
Riva Enteen, member, National Lawyers Guild
Idriss Stelley Foundation
Education Not Incarceration, San Francisco Chapter
San Francisco Village Voice Community Radio
Mesha Monge Irizarry, San Francisco Bayview National Black Newspaper reporter*
Gilberto López y Rivas, Professor and Journalist
Beatrice Eisman, U.S.-Vietnam Friendship Association*
Mario Santos, National Coordinator,Alliance for a Just and Lasting Peace in the Philippines—USA
Jim Lafferty, Interim General Manager, KPFK 90.7 FM Pacifica Radio* and Executive Director, National Lawyers Guild, Los Angeles*
Ecumenical Fellowship for Justice and Peace-Los Angeles
Judi Cheng, New York City, NY
Eli Stephens, Left I on the News
Allen Cooper, Veterans for Peace, GI Rights Hotline*
Peing Baclig, Justice for Filipino American Veterans (JFAV)*
Jack Vergara, Echo Park Community Coalition (EPCC)*
Pons De Leon, First Quarter Storm Network (FQSN)-USA-
Harald Neuber, journalist, Germany
Jazy Bonilla D.C.16 IUPAT Organizer *
Dr. Carmen Mercedes Baez, Argentina
Eladio González, (toto) Ernesto Che Guevara Museum, Argentina
Tara Hui, activist, San Francisco
Christine Araquel, Chair, Kabataang maka-Bayan (KmB,Pro-PeopleYouth), USA
Riya Ortia, UGNAYAN, NJNY
Ernesto Arce, Pacifica Radio, KPFK 90.7FM, Los Angeles*
Salvador Cordon, Coordinator, FMLN, Northern California

*Organizations for Identification Only

--Articles can be reprinted with credit to the Party for Socialism and Liberation--

[Boojatta]

8. "It was less than six decades ago that China emerged ...

...from a century of colonialist humiliation at the hands of the same big powers that are spearheading the China-bashing campaign today."

Are you suggesting that I'm Japanese and that I'm "bashing" China?

Perhaps the reference to "less than six decades ago" is meant to complain that Roosevelt and Churchill interfered in East Asian Affairs rather than allowing the big Japanese "Prosperity Zone" to naturally develop without interference from "colonialists"?

[stimbox]

11. Do a poll. n/t

[Boojatta]

12. What for?

Are there a lot of citizens of the PRC participating on this message board?

[stimbox]

17. I thought you liked to do polls. n/t

[Fireweed247]

9. We are the ones shipping our companies over there for the cheap labor

Why don't we stop borrowing money from them for our stupid ass war of terror? That and canceling "free" trade agreements would be a good place to start.

[Boojatta]

10. Speak for yourself. I don't ship companies to China and I don't buy products made in China.

[Fireweed247]

20. I meant the collective WE

I don't have a factory either, but we need to take responsibility for our Government if we are going to change it.
WE the People.

[Greyhound]

14. It's not "we", because "we" don't own the factories and "we" don't get the tax breaks

for exporting our future. "We" only get to pay the bills while "they" get all the benefit. It has always been about us and them, the workers and the owners, nothing else matters and is all distraction to keep our attention away from "them".

[Jack_DeLeon]

15. I've been trying my best for a couple years now...

I dont want my money going to fund a military competator to us, nor do I support what the government of China is doing to its people.

Its kind of hard but I'd rather have my money going to Americans, and if that isnt possible then any country other than China.

[Boojatta]

18. Kick for that fifth recommendation.

[progressoid]

19. Yeah, good luck with that.

Not just Walmart, but nearly every retailer in America sells Chinese stuff. Even grocery stores carry Chinese products. I wouldn't be surprised if Martha Stewart has some Chinese crap for sale.

[Raskolnik]

21. Where did your computer come from?

[Deja Q]

22. Taiwan, Philippines, Malasia, and China...

Mind you, my mouse and keyboard haven't rotted my fingers to useless nubs quite yet. :P

[Raskolnik]

23. I was just curious about where the OP's computer was made.

since Boojatta asserted he doesn't buy products made in China. I don't want to call him a liar, but I'm 99% sure he does.

[Fox Mulder]

24. It's kind of hard to do that in the small town I live in.

Trust me, I'd love to boycott China. I'm learning to be a Tibetan Buddhist.