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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:20 AM
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Need help reporting a potential school shooting.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 01:21 AM by TheUniverse
I found this video on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4loJ5arZ6Kw


It is by a guy who idolizes the Columbine school shooters. It has a message saying


"I hate you! Eric Harris owns Every Single One of you! (Eric Harris was one of Columbine shooter) The Fire Works will set in the four twenty one. Doom will become reality" After that message the video has several pictures of different school shooters.


This looks like a very direct school shooting threat. It looks like he wants to do a school shooting on april 21. The Columbine Massacre happened on the 20th of april, but April 20th will be a Sunday this year. I would assume he chose the 21st because of its proximity to Columbine.



His profile states that he lives in Philidelphia. I called the Philidelphia police and I got a rent-a-cop, probably because it is so late, who didn't really want to talk to me. After that I called the FBI station in Philidelphia. I got an agent who at least took my complaint, but he stated that he wasn't very interested, he had a lot of work, and he might not get to it for days. The problem is, youtube might delete that video before that. I dont know who else to report this to. If you know someone else to report this, who will take this threat seriously, please report this to them, or tell me who to report them to. I dont want to wake up on the 21st to find that a school shooting occurs.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:24 AM
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1. Call one of the news stations that has the late night/early morning
news like ABC or CNN - you should catch someone live there and you can get them to pull up the computer and see what you see. They will take it from there, waken the right folks in PA (I hope) to get some action on this.

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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:25 AM
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2. probably nothing
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:25 AM
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3. Email them with his main page link.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 01:28 AM by CC
Or fill this in with it. https://tips.fbi.gov/


Better idea maybe a Philly news station or newspaper.







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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:28 AM
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4. There looks to be a half a dozen tributes to Eric Harris on YouTube right now.
What makes you think this guy is anymore dangerous than the others. I'm on dial up so it would be all night for me to view any/all of them.
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:31 AM
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6. Yes there are plenty of tributes.
What makes you think this guy is anymore dangerous than the others?


That message about the fireworks happening on April 21. Thats sopunds about as close to a direct threat as you can get. And besides I knew a guy on youtube named "naturalselector89" Look him up, If you want to say these guys aren't threats.
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:30 AM
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13. God heavens, I asked a question, I didn't say one way or another as
to the danger of anyone. I'm sorry you're offended that I asked questions; next time I'll just ignore the whole topic rather than caring, would that suit you better?
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:31 AM
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14. what?
what made you think I was offended?
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PetraPooh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:53 AM
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17. You ended with
"If you think these guys aren't a threat" as though I either said that or implied that; which I didn't.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:30 AM
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5. Odd guy
A google on him reveals that he claims to be 18, with a 2 year old daughter. He has an ad out looking for work as a babysitter (!!!!!). It even lists his phone number. His postings on other sites reveal a fascination and admiration for the Columbine killers. Truly, this guy needs serious professional help.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:34 AM
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7. Yikes! That babysitter ad is very worrisome.
:scared:
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:38 AM
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9. Please report this!
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 02:19 AM by TheUniverse


edit never mind I found the ad and informed him!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:36 AM
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8. I can't believe the FBI won't take this seriously!
Maybe the Phila. school district?
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:39 AM
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10. He did just call me back to ask for more info.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 01:39 AM by TheUniverse
Maybe he realized its more important.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:41 AM
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11. Good. That video was some scary stuff.
At a minimum, the guy who did it needs some counseling.
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:51 AM
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18. Please keep us posted on this. ANY possible threat like this needs
to be taken seriously, IMO. What's most alarming about this is that he is alluding to a date. That's a pretty specific threat. I hope this FBI guy you spoke with is on the ball. This guy is posting all over the net with that same user name--including the babysitting ad (yes, disturbing) and pit bull puppies for sale--and has included his phone number in several places. It wouldn't take much sleuthing to discover who and where he is and check him out. Surely law enforcement can spare that much time.

I think it's a good idea to notify the local school district about this, too, though. They ought to definitely take this seriously.

Thanks for noticing this video and being alarmed enough to do something about it. It can't HURT anything to report this, only help, IMO. Hopefully, he's just some harmless nutcase, but there's no way any of us has of knowing that. At the least, this guy will realize that it's dangerous to post crap like this, or maybe he'll get some help. Then again, you may very well have saved some lives by reporting this. Good luck and please let us know what happens, if you can. Please check your PMs, The Universe.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:43 AM
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12. to be honest, his youtube channel is textbook.....
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 01:44 AM by pepperbear
I AM GODLIKE I HAVE SELF AWARENESS , ONLY A FEW PEOPLE HAVE THIS GIFT . THEY JUST CANNOT SEE WHAT WE DO . THE REGULAR PEOPLE THE ROBOTS , THINK THEY KNOW BUT HAVE NO CLUE , EVERYTHING HAS A MEANING SO IS SAID THATS A LIE, there is no meaning for life no meaning for anything have you ever heard a person say thats ot normal or it is normal well what exactly is normal nothing is normal normal is a false word.


"I am Godlike?" "only a few people have this gift?" "No meaning for life?"

Uh, this guy ain't right, or he's pretending.


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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:37 AM
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15. Call the School Depart,ment in Philly. n/t
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:01 AM
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19. Maybe the Philly Department of Education
They are sure to take it seriously.
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 07:27 AM
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20. User Joolz has shown me which school district his number is associated with.
I will be calling it once I get all my information prepared.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:44 AM
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21. Excellent. Make sure you tell them how uninterested the police and FBI were
That is unbelievable to me.
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 10:04 AM
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22. Yeah I just called them.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 10:04 AM by TheUniverse
I emailed them all the information I got on the guy.

For the record The FBI guy did call me back to ask for more information after I posted this thread. Maybe I just caught him at a bad time. (lets face it he works the graveyard shift)


The Police station on the other hand was incredibly unhelpful and wouldnt take any kind of report. She told me to call my local police instead. How the hell is that going to do any good considering I live 500 miles away? Sounds like someone didnt want to do her job.
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 01:58 PM
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23. Thanks for all you've done.
I figured you'd get more response out of the school district. Their lives, and those of students in their care, are the ones possibly in danger.

You've done all you can do. The rest is up to others now. Good job. And thanks so much for caring enough to take action. Hope you get some rest...

(BTW, that seems to be such a standard response from the police these days... "We can't do anything until he/she actually does something"...And "Call your local police" when it's NOT something local. I've gotten a similar response on something that was an internet-related threat, and NOT local to me. Makes no sense to me, either.)
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:02 PM
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24. P.S. - Thanks to all here who cared enough to help look into this, too.
Good teamwork.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:41 AM
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16. There is an entire website devoted to praising the Columbine shooters
I think it has been posted here a couple times.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 02:03 PM
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25. dial 911
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