So just how many kids were these wingnuts in pioneer costumes in Texas accused of molesting ?

[NNN0LHI]

When the story broke I heard one girl mentioned and then it jumped up to two hundred and now this morning I think I heard it was over 400 kids involved. Is that right?

Our government couldn't infiltrate these freaks and find out what was going on right here in Texas? If thats the case we ain't got a chance against al-Qaeda.

Something isn't right.

Don

[Donnachaidh]

1. it's also going on in Utah, Colorado, Canada and Mexico

read "Under the Banner Of Heaven" by J. Krakauer (not sure on the spelling). :grr:

[shaniqua6392]

2. They have had an informant in there for a few years.

Hopefully they can make some of these charges stick. They are so sick. There are girls as young as 13 "married" to men around 50 years old. It makes me want to puke.

[SpiralHawk]

3. "Something isn't right." - understatement of the year

You got it, NNNOLHI

Wingnuttism is totally unright.

[atreides1]

4. You know what?

I'll wait for the evidence before coming to a conclusion, just like I would if the accused were "enemy combatants", but I guess that's an old fashioned concept these days, you know the one I'm referring to?


Innocent until proven guilty!!!

[ljm2002]

6. Sure, innocent until proven guilty...

...definitely a bedrock legal principle.

However, that does not mean we must pretend we know nothing about what has happened -- getting the facts as they come out is how we form our opinions, hopefully converging on the truth at some point.

And in the meantime we are free to comment on how we see it. We on this board are not members of a jury, except in the broad sense of being members of the court of public opinion. So while I will definitely opt for the "innocent until proven guilty" legal principle, I also feel quite free to say that from where I sit, it looks like we have a cadre of authoritarian rapists at this compound, along with a bunch of brainwashed women and trapped children.

Let's see how it plays out in court. I can hardly wait.

[kestrel91316]

9. This sums it up nicely:

"........it looks like we have a cadre of authoritarian rapists at this compound, along with a bunch of brainwashed women and trapped children........."

I simply don't understand why people are jumping to the defense of these freaks. I guess they haven't done their homework.

REQUIRED READING BEFORE COMMENTING ON FLDS:
Under the Banner of Heaven by Jon Krakauer
Escape by Carolyn Jessop
Then, kiddies, google "flds jeffs polygamy abuse"..........

Oh, and news flash for the compassion-impaired: A person's religious rights END where another person's body begins. PERIOD.

[zbdent]

8. Innocent until proven guilty is soooooo

September 10th ...

:sarcasm:

[High Plains]

5. I don't think anyone is actually charged with anything.

I think Texas has finally realized the one man named, Dale Barlow, cannot be the alleged abuser of the alleged abusee (who still hasn't turned up). Barlow was the one person againt whom a direct allegation was made, but he wasn't even in Texas and hasn't been for years.

461 children were seized by CPS because they were supposedly in imminent danger of abuse or neglect. Now, they and the mothers who accompanied them to be near their kids are being held incommunicado by the state.

This seeks just a bit overly broad to me. The allegation is that the sect "marries" teenage girls to the sect's men. That is the alleged child abuse. So, why does the state take the boys, take the infants, take the prebuscent girls?

Maybe if we just scream CHILD RAPE!!!! loud enough we can drown out any such questions.

[kestrel91316]

10. A person's religious rights END where any other person's body begins.

And remember, LINCOLN FREED THE SLAVES. These women are nothing less than reproductive slaves, kept in ignorance and fear and bred like sheep.

[kestrel91316]

11. You think they should leave ANY children with obvious sex offenders?

Warren Stupidity, is that you behind High Plains' mask??????

BTW, you must not have read the part about how they found a document detailing plans for cyanide mass suicide in that "temple" when they searched it. That's reason enough to remove kids regardless of their gender.

Why do you care more about the abusers' rights than the children's safety? Just curious.

[tridim]

7. I think before this is over it'll be all of them

Boil it all down and this cult was nothing more than pedophilia and child abuse in the name of god.