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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:08 PM
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Message To Yoo/Mukasey: Dept Of Justice Has ALREADY Procecuted/Convicted Officials Who Waterboarded!
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 04:17 PM by kpete
The Yoo Memo Part VI- Another Case He Did Not Cite
By: looseheadprop Monday April 14, 2008 1:30 pm

The Department of Justice has actually prosecuted folks who used waterboarding to induce confessions. Oh, and convicted them. And had those convictions sustained on appeal.


...Over the weekend, Senator Sheldon Whitehouse brought another case to my attention in a speech he gave to a criminal justice retreat. He mentions it as well on his own webpage.http://whitehouse.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=292933

The case is called U.S. v. Lee http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/old/F2/744/744.F2d.1124.83-2675.html and it involves the prosecution of several Sheriff's Deputies in Texas for waterboarding people they had arrested in an effort to induce those detainees to confess to crimes.

Carl Lee was jointly tried with three fellow San Jacinto County, Texas law enforcement officers on charges of violating and conspiring to violate the civil rights of prisoners in their custody.

Lee was indicted along with two other deputies, Floyd Baker and James Glover, and the County Sheriff, James Parker, based on a number of incidents in which prisoners were subjected to a "water torture" in order to prompt confessions to various crimes.


Got that Messrs Yoo and Mukasey? Waterboarding is TORTURE; the Court of Appeals said so and the case has not been overturned by SCOTUS.

Oh, and it gets better:

At trial, Baker's defense as developed by his counsel and his testimony rested on two points. The first was that he actively participated in only a single torture episode, and then only because ordered to do so by his superiors--a "Nuremberg defense." The second was that while he believed the torture of prisoners immoral, he did not at the time think it was illegal.


Aye yup, thinking torture is not illegal is no defense. So, I guess that all important "the Yoo memos are a fig leaf that will save the interrogators from prosecution" defense is looking a bit shaky at this point.

more at:
http://firedoglake.com/2008/04/14/the-yoo-memo-part-vi-another-case-he-did-not-cite/#more-21672
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:10 PM
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1. you have to have a justice department that is interested in enforcing law
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:13 PM
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3. Mukasey doesn't feel he should investigate or prosecute when
someone else within the DOJ told them it was legal.


I believe that's how his bullshit excuse goes.


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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 08:40 PM
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11. Round and round it goes with men rather than the law of the land.
The most wicked of men reckoned around the invested law of the land,...by BUYING positions of power and BUYING the law.

They are traitors, have committed treason of the highest order since they CONSPIRED to evade all laws of this land.

I've always avoided saying what I am going to say because I thought it too inciteful. However, when a governance commits treason against its people, as this one has and continues to do so, it is time for a full-scale revolt.

Revolution for Democracy!!!!!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 04:12 PM
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2. when will the Establishment Media dare to mention the Youngstown case...it is the law and they have
legal experts on all the time to discuss missing blondes ad nauseum
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:10 PM
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4. K&R
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:18 PM
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5. We need to send this to our esteemed members of Congress! rec'd
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:21 PM
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6. My my that is interesting. What is the statue of limitations on torture?
Can the charges be "put on ice" and thawed after Jan 20th?
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:44 PM
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7. Happy to K&R this for you
:kick:
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 11:07 PM
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8. k&r n/t
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 06:46 AM
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9. Forward The Message To Pelosi/Conyers
They're now in charge of the coverup firewall.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 04:16 PM
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10. kick
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