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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:07 PM
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FILM: 'The Revolution Will Not Be Televised' = Six years ago today, a COUP failed.
Questions remain. Was this another Bush screw-up?
Did the usual characters plot to overthrow another democracy?

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International Jury : "The best television programme in the world this year"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5832390545689805144
KIM BARTLEY AND DONNACHA O'BRIAIN
1 hr 14 min 31 sec

THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED DIRECTED AND PHOTOGRAPHED BY KIM BARTLEY AND DONNACHA O'BRIAIN IRELAND, 2003 74 MINUTES

IN ... all » SPANISH WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES

HUGO CHAVEZ ELECTED PRESIDENT OF VENEZUELA IN 1998, IS A COLORFUL, UNPREDICTABLE FOLK HERO, beloved by his nation's working class and a tough-as-nails, quixotic opponent to the power structure that would see him deposed. Two independent filmmakers were inside the presidential palace on April 11, 2002, when he was forcibly removed from office. They were also present 48 hours later when, remarkably, he returned to power amid cheering aides. Their film records what was probably history's shortest-lived coup d'état. It's a unique document about political muscle and an extraordinary portrait of the man The Wall Street Journal credits with making Venezuela "Washington‚s biggest Latin American headache after the old standby, Cuba."

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«http://www.chavezthefilm.com/html/home.htm
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:12 PM
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1. Thanks L. Coyote
:hi:

It's always in my sig line
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:18 PM
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2. And its a good thing Great Leader is getting down to the People's business.
Edited on Mon Apr-14-08 06:18 PM by tritsofme
Like banning the Simpsons in favor of Baywatch.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:36 PM
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3. The Bushies weren't any better at Latin American coups than Middle East Wars
Incompetent. The only thing they do competently is destroy economies - starting with ours.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 06:41 PM
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4. A great day & a great documentary, must see!
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-14-08 09:31 PM
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5. What a fortunate coincidence that a film team was there to witness the facts.
We usually only get the media version of these events.
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 07:31 AM
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6. morning kick
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:05 AM
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7. "
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:21 AM
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8. Early this morning I watched this for the second time
for some reason I got much more out to it this time around. I would like to have a President who could instill confidence like Chavaz has to the Venezuelans.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:23 AM
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9. CIA Documents Show Bush Knew of 2002 Coup in Venezuela
http://www.democracynow.org/2004/11/29/cia_documents_show_bush_knew_of

November 29, 2004

"Newly released CIA documents show the Bush administration—at the very least–knew about the plot to overthrow Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez weeks before the April 2002 military coup. We speak with Peter Korbluh of the National Security Archive and we go to Caracas to speak with attorney Eva Golinger who obtained the documents...


EVA GOLINGER:

...The most important point though, about these documents is the one you referred to, the April 6, senior executive intelligence brief that went to over 200 representatives of five different government agencies...


but they talk about level of detail in the reported plans and the fact that the plans targeted Chavez for arrest, along with 10 other senior officials, and that to provoke the action, meaning to provoke the coup, the plotters would try to exploit unrest stemming from an opposition march scheduled to take place a few days later and this was April 6, the coup happened April 11. On April 9 and 10 was when the opposition declared a general strike. On April 11 was one of the largest marches ever in Venezuela history and the largest that the opposition has led and that’s precisely what happened was that during that march on April 11, violence struck out and basically, I mean what the evidence shows today here is that there were snipers set out in various points along the march route that just began firing and apparently, according to these documents, that was the plan. In fact, it was the plan in order to justify the coup and blame the violence on President Chavez, which is precisely what the opposition did. The importance of this is that this shows the U.S. government knew ahead of time. This was April 6, 2002. The coup was April 11, meaning the U.S. government knew on April 12 when Ari Fleischer and Phillip Reager of the State Department and Ari Fleischer of the White House came out and made statements saying that to the best of their knowledge, President Chavez provoked the violence and had subsequently resigned because of it...


PETER KORNBLUH: The documents don’t really tell us whether the United States was directly involved. They tell us more or less exactly what Eva has just stated, that the U.S. Intelligence community, it’s not actually clear whether it was the CIA or the Defense Intelligence Agency or other members of the Pentagon, had contacts with civilian and military sectors in Caracas and were getting a steady stream of reports on planning for this coup. We know that from the documents. We also know from the documents as Eva pointed out, that this information was, you know, not stopped at some low-level, mid-level desk in the state department or in the CIA, but actually distributed through a very interesting committee called the strategic warning committee headed by the CIA to almost, to the very highest levels of the U.S. government. The senior executive intelligence brief is one step below the presidential daily brief, which goes to the president and about 15 of his top advisers. But the senior executive brief goes to 200 of the, all the most important national security advisers. So this was distributed throughout the US government and certainly since we know that it was distributed, we know that there were meetings held about it, discussions on how to respond, how to perhaps prepare, etc., and as events played out, it is clear that the United States developed, the Bush administration had developed its response, who to blame, how to spin this, and how to support it. I suspect, and let me just say that these documents are incredibly important and perhaps the tip of an iceberg that Eve is starting to melt..."



Bush Officials Met With Venezuelans Who Ousted Leader

By CHRISTOPHER MARQUIS
Published: April 16, 2002


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0DE3DF1E3CF935A25757C0A9649C8B63


''We were not discouraging people,'' the official said. ''We were sending informal, subtle signals that we don't like this guy. We didn't say, 'No, don't you dare,' and we weren't advocates saying, 'Here's some arms; we'll help you overthrow this guy.' We were not doing that.''


...In the immediate aftermath of the ouster, the White House spokesman, Ari Fleischer, suggested that the administration was pleased that Mr. Chávez was gone. ''The government suppressed what was a peaceful demonstration of the people,'' Mr. Fleischer said, which ''led very quickly to a combustible situation in which Chávez resigned.''

That statement contrasted with a clear stand by other nations in the hemisphere, which all condemned the removal of a democratically elected leader...

Mr. Chávez returned to power on Sunday, after two days. The Bush administration swiftly laid the blame for the episode on him, pointing out that troops loyal to him had fired on unarmed civilians and wounded more than 100 demonstrators...

Still, critics say, there were several signs that the administration was too quick to rally around the businessman Pedro Carmona Estanga as Mr. Chávez's successor..."



Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer
April 11, 2002


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/04/20020411-1.html


"...Q I'd like to follow-up on the Venezuela thing that you mentioned. The situation with PDVSA, which is the state petrol company in Venezuela, they're having a face off with President Chavez, and this may create all kinds of problems. But also President Chavez is being accused of violating freedom of the press and trying to use the media -- control the media on that particular strike, saying that the strike is actually an attempt to overthrow the government. Does the White House share that view?

MR. FLEISCHER: I have not heard any updates, Jacobo, from the events in Venezuela, other than there's a strike in Venezuela. This appears to be an internal Venezuelan issue. The United States will monitor it. But I don't have anything for you beyond that..."


Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer
April 12, 2002


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/04/20020412-1.html


"...Q. I would like to just call a pause to the Middle East for a second. A very important event has happened in Venezuela. We have had the renunciation or forced -- of President Chavez. Now, a new government has taken place. Venezuela is a very important country to the stability of the hemisphere; a democracy, and also the third largest oil supplier to the United States. What does the White House think of the change of government in Venezuela?

MR. FLEISCHER: Let me share with you the administration's thoughts about what's taking place in Venezuela. It remains a somewhat fluid situation. But yesterday's events in Venezuela resulted in a change in the government and the assumption of a transitional authority until new elections can be held.

The details still are unclear. We know that the action encouraged by the Chavez government provoked this crisis. According to the best information available, the Chavez government suppressed peaceful demonstrations. Government supporters, on orders from the Chavez government, fired on unarmed, peaceful protestors, resulting in 10 killed and 100 wounded. The Venezuelan military and the police refused to fire on the peaceful demonstrators and refused to support the government's role in such human rights violations. The government also tried to prevent independent news media from reporting on these events.

The results of these events are now that President Chavez has resigned the presidency. Before resigning, he dismissed the vice president and the cabinet, and a transitional civilian government has been installed. This government has promised early elections.

The United States will continue to monitor events. That is what took place,
and the Venezuelan people expressed their right to peaceful protest. It was a very large protest that turned out. And the protest was met with violence.


Q The situation in Venezuela is very dire. During the Chavez years, the economy -- situation. Will the United States government back a civilian government, although it's an interim one, to help Venezuela get back on its feet?

MR. FLEISCHER: As I indicated, the events remain fluid. Events are under way still, as we speak. We are consulting with our OAS allies and reviewing the events on the ground. I think you'll have more developments and we'll share with you as they warrant. So it's an ongoing story..."















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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:57 AM
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10. "U.S. government knew ahead of time" When will the Juntas answer for their crimes?
When will justice prevail in the Americas?
When will coups against democracies STOP?
When will the Juntas answer for their crimes?

George Bush Sr. May Face Charges: Conspiring to Kidnap and Murder Political Activists
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2459135
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 01:03 PM
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11. Wish I knew the answer, although I suspect things will have
to become much worse for the average American before they say no more.

:(

Thanks for the link.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 02:10 PM
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12. Correct the Facts on US-Venezuela Relations: Remember the
Attempted Coup?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-weisbrot-and-robert-naiman/correct-the-facts-on-usv_b_31612.html


"First, according to the U.S. State Department's Office of Inspector General,


"it is clear that NED , Department of Defense (DOD), and other U.S. assistance programs provided training, institution building, and other support to individuals and organizations understood to be actively involved in the brief ouster of the Chavez government." <1>

Second, and even more importantly, the Bush Administration had advance knowledge of the coup but then lied about it when it occurred, claiming that it was not a coup at all, in an attempt to make it succeed. This is a form of involvement. To take an analogy: imagine that someone tells me that they are going to kill someone, and then does so. He then claims self-defense. If I then go to the police, with full knowledge that the crime was planned, and say that it was self-defense, I am participating in the crime. In that sense, then, Washington was a participant in the attempted coup.

During the April 16, 2002 White House press briefing, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer stated that the U.S. government had no prior knowledge of a pending coup in Venezuela: "events were combustible, events were fluid. Those events were not anticipated."<2>

However, an April 6, 2002 CIA Senior Intelligence Brief lays out that "dissident military factions, including some disgruntled senior officers and a group of radical junior officers, are stepping up efforts to organize a coup against President Chavez,
possibly as early as this month To provoke military action, plotters may try to exploit unrest stemming from opposition demonstrations slated for later this month or ongoing strikes at the state-owned oil company PDVSA." <3> Intelligence briefs such as this one are typically read by as many as 200 officials in the Bush Administration..."


http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2002/9316.htm

Press Statement
Philip T. Reeker, Deputy Spokesman
Washington, DC
April 12, 2002


Venezuela: Change of Government

In recent days, we expressed our hopes that all parties in Venezuela, but especially the Chavez administration, would act with restraint and show full respect for the peaceful expression of political opinion. We are saddened at the loss of life. We wish to express our solidarity with the Venezuelan people and look forward to working with all democratic forces in Venezuela to ensure the full exercise of democratic rights. The Venezuelan military commendably refused to fire on peaceful demonstrators, and the media valiantly kept the Venezuelan public informed.

Yesterday's events in Venezuela resulted in a transitional government until new elections can be held. Though details are still unclear, undemocratic actions committed or encouraged by the Chavez administration provoked yesterday's crisis in Venezuela. According to the best information available, at this time: Yesterday, hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans gathered peacefully to seek redress of their grievances. The Chavez Government attempted to suppress peaceful demonstrations. Chavez supporters, on orders, fired on unarmed, peaceful protestors, resulting in more than 100 wounded or killed. Venezuelan military and police refused orders to fire on peaceful demonstrators and refused to support the government's role in such human rights violations. The government prevented five independent television stations from reporting on events. The results of these provocations are: Chavez resigned the presidency. Before resigning, he dismissed the Vice President and the Cabinet. A transition civilian government has promised early elections.

We have every expectation that this situation will be resolved peacefully and democratically by the Venezuelan people in accord with the principles of the Inter-American Democratic Charter. The essential elements of democracy, which have been weakened in recent months, must be restored fully. We will be consulting with our hemispheric partners, within the framework of the Inter-American Democratic Charter, to assist Venezuela."


Released on April 12, 2002






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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:05 PM
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13. Have there been hearings yet? Behind closed doors? Intelligence Comm.?
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 12:58 AM
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15. That falls under the accountability heading...not likely :( n/t
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:24 PM
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14. What a great thread.
I'm bookmarking this.
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