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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:42 AM
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If all the young girls are married off at 15/16 years old what do all the 15/16 year old boys do?
I mean when I was 15/16 I was hanging out with girls. As a matter of fact the more girls I could hang out with the better. What do these young boys do? Wait until they are 50 years old and can marry one?

Were not hearing the whole story here.

Don
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:44 AM
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1. Make friends with their fists?
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:45 AM
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2. They get kicked out of town, that's what. nm
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Ronnie Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:48 AM
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7. The Lost Boys
They're called 'The Lost Boys'. It's been covered extensively on CNN well before this Texas incident.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:07 PM
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21. The Lost Boys were in Utah-Arizona at the towns on the border there.
Why aren't we hearing about Lost Boys right here in Texas? Are they perhaps suffering some fate other than running away/getting kicked out??
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:45 AM
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3. Many are discarded
They are "kicked out" of the group and left to their own devices.

Stories about them usually have the phrase "Lost Boys" in their title if you'd like to google more information than just the one article in my link.

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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:45 AM
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They get thrown out of the cult
This has been widely reported for years. Young men are seen as a threat, so after a lifetime of brainwashing, they get excommunicated for trivial "infractions," forced out of their homes, family and community, and left to fend for themselves at the ages of 14, 15 and 16. After Jefferts was arrested, you could not turn on a television talkshow without seeing a male "former member" being interviewed.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:10 PM
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22. The cute young guys are seen as a threat to the creepy old men!
God forbid, a teenage girl might be attracted to a teenage boy.
:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: nausea
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:45 AM
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4. I've heard that some get kicked out of the sect.
Others have to wait until they become men (probably 18 or 21yo) before they can marry.
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DadOf2LittleAngels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:46 AM
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5. Assuming your talking about that cult recently raided..
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 10:47 AM by DadOf2LittleAngels
Many boys are forced to leave the community its not a matter of 'they are too young' its a matter of there are too many of them. Those who stay get married to their first wife when they are youngish (late teens/20's) and continue to marry as they get older..

What the boys who are forced to leave do I dont know, its very tragic..

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:47 AM
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6. sow their wild oats for a decade then marry a 15, 16 yr old produced
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 10:50 AM by seabeyond
and raised to be theirs to use.

sorry

not feeling a lot of love and compassion going on in these unions or that the female is a person to them
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:52 AM
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17. The OP was expressing some concern for the young males victimized by that system.
We've heard a lot about the young girls, and rightly so. Is there something wrong with even acknowledging that the boys were mistreated by the system as well? You seem to be dismissing them out of hand.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:01 PM
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18. i got that
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 12:19 PM by seabeyond
as i read the responses along the way that i was not on the right track. and your assumptions are wrong.

thanks
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:48 AM
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8. The Lost Boys of Colorado City
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 10:52 AM by azurnoir
On any given day there were 13 kids sleeping on the floor of the butt hut. It was 2003, and Sam Icke was almost 19. To get to work in the morning, he had to pick his way over the limp bodies, the piles of dirty clothes, the half-empty bags of Doritos. The smell of dirty socks and stale beer clung to the matted carpeting and the ratty brown sofa. Nine hours later, when he got home, Icke found those same bodies upright, fixating on a high-speed car chase on the TV in the corner, getting stoned, and doing shots of Bacardi. In the kitchen, a swarm of roaches feasted on the ossified remains of a four-day-old spaghetti dinner.

This story from 06/06/06 is about how teenage boys were systematically ejected from fundamentalist Mormon enclaves and how the mothers or parents of these compound were compelled to "go along" with it
gotta make sure there are enough 14 year old girls to go around for the more "mature" men

http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2006/07/06/lost_boys/index.html
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:50 AM
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9. What they're already doing.
Don't make me spell it out for you. :evilgrin:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:53 AM
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10. According to the old rules they apprenticed and gathered enough money to support a wife when they...
were say 20-24.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:54 AM
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11. A great many are ejected from the community.
Edited on Tue Apr-15-08 10:57 AM by NCevilDUer
A couple years ago, when Jeffs was still on the run, there were stories about this - how 'excess' young males were sent away, rejected on one pretext or another. While the girls were kept practically under lock and key, the boys were encouraged to leave, and many left on their own when they realized they were unlikely to be allowed a wife from within the community. This actually helped maintain the cult, as it continually re-inforced the power of the older men - only the most trustworthy were brought into full membership and rewarded with wives, and the potential troublemakers were shown the road.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 10:58 AM
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12. Wait until they are in their 30s to marry a 15/16 year old girl...
Thats what they do in those polygamist compounds. That is the whole story... some of the young men get put on the streets to reduce competition.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:15 PM
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23. MOST of the young men get "put on the streets". Do the math.
If birth ratios are the normal nearly 50:50 and the men who are considered worthy enough to have wives eventually wind up with a dozen or so, then the vast majority of young men must leave in order for the whole system to work.

For EVERY plural wife, there is probably a rejected male floating around out there.

This cult is a bunch of criminals for the abandonment of the boys alone, let alone what they are doing to the girls.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:18 PM
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24. Its like a human Pyramid scheme where humans replace dollars
I find it really disgusting.

Don
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:33 PM
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27. Boy, did you put it aptly. Human pyramind scheme.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:04 AM
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13. They have a functional abstinence program.
:rofl: :hide: I'm a baaaaad boy.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:17 AM
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14. They are tossed OUT..and made fend for themselves
It's all very "Animal Kingdom".. The young males are cast out of the group so the dominant males can have all the females..:puke:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:30 AM
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15. Google "Lost boys"
Boys who express an interest in young tail slated for some old man are dumped next to the road out in the desert somewhere.

That's what they do.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 11:35 AM
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16. The boys get banished from the community- thrown out on the streets
Only a few chosen ones are allowed to stay as long as they aren't competition for the older ones.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:05 PM
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19. Um, maybe the authorities should ASK the boys. That is, if they could find them.
Somebody needs to count up teen girls vs boys in that population, and if it's not pretty darned close to 50:50, SOMEBODY needs to start asking some serious questions. Like: "Where are they??"

IMHO a closer search of that 1700 acre "ranch" is in order.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:06 PM
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20. No one cares about young men - or men in general
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:32 PM
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26. Well, some of us do. That's why we're asking these questions
about where the FLDS boys are.

But yeah, the only thing I care about WRT the FLDS men is how soon they are gonna be punished for raping the girls.......
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-15-08 12:27 PM
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25. kicking...
...for the Lost Boy links. Thanks.
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