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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:30 AM
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Was that Gorgeous George handing der pope da speech?!1
Disclaimer: My supposed disparaging of the pope (follows) has nothing to do with the Catholic FAITH or with aspersions against supposed Gayness. It has to do with MY Dem/Lib politics---anti-Shrubbism, anti-Iraq-Attack, anti-MERGING-of-church/state, anti-Anti/Choice---in short, things I come to DU for----KAY?!1


* So first, one of the MSRNC mouthpieces gushes that der pope "has come around to some kind of agreement with (Shrub) over Iraq" (paraphrasing). What the HADES does THAT mean?!1

* Then il pope HOPS spryly to his feet as soon as Shrub stops yapping his mouth, almost CLICKING his Pradas!1 Didn't he say, "This will be SHORT?!1" (When he took over.) Looks like he's going to go at it for another 20-30 years!1

* & when el PApa finished with "God bless America!1" I actually thought he was going to flash a Nazi salute!1

* & what's with "The Battle Hymn of the Republic"?! El papa-booye on board with never-ending-WAR?! The last time we heard that ditty, it was after 9-11 at the National Cathedral, when religion was used to bless war-war-WAR, in that truly AWE-some arrangement, full of DREADful FEARsomeness. What was the significance at this particular visit?!1

* Now on to Gorgeous George: Whoever the Igor was, he humbly hunched himself in delivering and retrieving the papal utterings in writing.

* Among the Knights of Columbus, I wonder whether NOVAKula and Laura INGRAHAM (converts) were special guests somewhere in there. After all, Poppy BUSH fired ATWATER (? or KKKarl?) for having spawned a Dirty Trick at NOVAKula's expense.


Note to any potential flamers: No, I am not ascribing being Gay to somebody who might be "bad". Fwiw, Andrew SULLIVAN is quoted in the first link below, full of innuendoes and insinuations. The 3rd link is a serious analysis of Gorgeous George's potential negative reinforcement of Ratzo in his reactionary policies.





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http://disembedded.wordpress.com/2006/11/18/pope-benedict-issues-formal-vatican-decree-a-smile-is-not-a-sin/

Pope Benedict Issues Formal Vatican Decree: A Smile Is Not a Sin


November 18, 2006 — disembedded

.... Andrew Sullivan published this irreverent, biting criticism of the article (and the Pope) today on his Time Magazine blog, The Daily Dish:

“The NYT runs a very curious article today about Italian humor about the current Pope. None of the jokes cited seem to me to be very risque or even funny. The entire argument of the piece is undermined by lack of any real evidence that this pope is subject to any more ridicule than has historically been the case. Except of course for that photograph (see above, seated with Msgr. Georg Ganswein). It shows the actual source of the jokes circulating in the Vatican and elsewhere about this Prada-preferring, Gucci-wearing, high-drama German intellectual (Pope). The actual jokes - which the NYT won’t print - are about how good looking so many of the men are who surround Benedict, especially his personal assistant, Msgr. Georg Gänswein, shown holding the large phallic microphone in front of Benedict’s face. The Vatican gossip merchants call Georg “Gay-Org.” He is inseparable from Benedict. And he surely is easy on the eyes. There is no evidence that Benedict has ever broken his vows of chastity; but there is no evidence that he is heterosexual either. Hence the gossip; hence the jokes. When you’re a Pope who declares that even closeted, chaste gay men cannot be priests, it’s pushing your luck to clothe yourself in Prada, bedeck your Pope-mobile with luxurious Natuzzi Italian white leather, and surround yourself with assistants who look like they strayed from the pages of “L’Uomo Vogue.”

Butch it up, sister. Or the jokes will only get louder.”


http://www.bestweekever.tv/2006/12/22/crush-of-the-day-monsignor-georg-ganswein/#more-9199

CRUSH OF THE DAY: Monsignor Georg Gänswein


The NY Daily News brings to our attention rampant speculation in Italy that the new Pope Benedict, née Joseph Ratzinger (which we always read as though George Jetson’s boss were angry with him: “Raaaatzinger!”) is gay. The main reason? Namely, because Pope Benedict wears red Prada shoes. The rumor has been spreading since the day he took God’s office, when gay talk show host Fabio Canino kicked off his show “with a shot of pink smoke wafting from a chimney at the Vatican.” Apparently, the Pope’s boyfriend is his private secretary, Monsignor Georg Gänswein, the “handsome, blond, 50-year-old amateur ­pilot, ­tennis player and former ski instructor.”

Well. We had to know more. So we Google Image searched him and ohmahgawwwwww!!!! MONSIGNOR GEORG GANSWEIN IS DROP DEAD GORGE! No, all JK-ing aside, the guy is 2-DIE-4. As the Italians might say “Illay Fatchay ese muy puntamento ecstatico”, which actually doesn’t mean anything strangely enough. We gotta hand it to the Pope — well played, my good man! MERRY CHRISTMAS! If he wasn’t celebate and/or into guys, we’d have him stuff or holiday stocking every day of the week! And we mean that literally, because we love small toys.

But for serious, more shots of our new Numero Uno Monsignor after the jump… (with thanks to ONTD for calling our attention to this pressing matter.)




http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1554309,00.html

Thou shalt not drool


Georg Gänswein is the poster boy of Catholic conservatism. The Italian press compares him to George Clooney and Hugh Grant; his critics describe him as the 'Black Forest Adonis'. But how did he end up as the new Pope's right-hand man? And is he the right person for the job? By Luke Harding and Barbara McMahon

Tuesday August 23, 2005
The Guardian

.... Those who know him praise his efficiency and analytical ability. "He understands complicated issues within about 10 seconds and can give a clear and immediate answer," one Vatican source said. Gänswein is, though, more than just an impressive theologian. He is, like the man he serves, extremely conservative. "I think he is very dangerous," Daniel Deckers, the author of a biography of Germany's leading liberal cardinal, Karl Lehmann, said. "He's part of a small but very powerful group within the Catholic church. He will use his power to push Ratzinger in a certain direction." ....

With Gänswein as private secretary, there seems little hope that Benedict XVI will offer concessions on issues that alienate many from the Catholic church - the use of condoms, gay relationships or pre-marital sex. "You can forget it," one religious affairs writer said bluntly. ....

Gänswein's critics even accuse him of turning the Pope into a fashion victim. This summer, Ratzinger and his secretary went on holiday to the papal residence at Castel Gandolfo, near Rome, as well as to the Italian Alps at Valle D'Aosta. While both men were hiking in the hills, the Pope appeared in public wearing a Nike hat, designer Serengeti sunglasses and a Cartier watch. "This is Gänswein's style. It's his handwriting," one religious affairs writer said. "This is something I don't understand." ....

It is not surprising, then, that the Pope's private secretary is already beginning to inspire dread in liberal Catholic circles. In Germany, the Catholic church is divided more or less between two figures - the liberal-conservative Cardinal Lehmann, the head of the German archbishop's conference, and the ultra-conservative Cardinal Joachim Meisner, the Archbishop of Cologne. Both men were with the Pope last week. But it is no secret as to which Bishop the Vatican favours. "Gänswein is an opponent of Lehmann," one source in the German Catholic church said. "One of Ratzinger's great weaknesses is that his judgment of people isn't always sufficient. He has a small out-reach." ....

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:35 AM
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1. This Pope was against the Iraq War as was the last one. I dispute that part of your opening line.
Also, this post in general is total trash.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:40 AM
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4. And I'm sure it's the ONLY one among THOUSANDS of threads of impressions, opinions,
general blathering, and rude undigested responders. I think you could find SOME bits of connections if you put your mind to it.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:38 AM
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2. I'm Catholic...
And this pope can eat crap.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:39 AM
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3. I'm not sure but I think the Pope might have insulted Bush.
Edited on Wed Apr-16-08 10:41 AM by cornermouse
in a polite, diplomatic sort of way after Bush tried to diplomatically kneecap him by tell him that we are working to free the world. Then again, I could be reading something into it that wasn't actually there. And when Bush told the Pope that we're a nation of prayer and that we pray a lot, my reactive thought was "we're all praying for Bush's 8 years to end quickly".
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-16-08 10:45 AM
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5. Go to Godfather Part III to truly get an idea of the politics at the Vatican....n/t
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