For someone who took a Vow of Poverty this Pope sure likes his bling bling

[NNN0LHI]

I bet he had ten pounds of gold hanging off of him in one form or another for the ceremonies today with Bush.

Who is he trying to impress with that?

Don

[leftofcool]

1. It's a Pope thang!

[smiley_glad_hands]

4. Exactly, we wouldnt understand.

Seems to me though that most Pope's love their bling bling.

Not trying to offend any Catholics, you are in the top 3 in my long search for a religion to follow.

[jazzjunkysue]

2. No, silly. He's vowing to keep all of us in poverty. That's why he's teaming up with W.

Do I have to explain everything?

:hug:

[Zynx]

3. You sure know how to pull a load of bullshit out of thin air.

[MonkeyFunk]

5. It's hard out there for a Pope

[leftofcool]

6. Vatican being foreclosed on and all

[gatorboy]

7. This morning a reporter asked what the Pope thought about Americans.

Apparently he thinks we are too "materialistic" :eyes:

[Midlodemocrat]

8. Priests don't take a vow of poverty. Nuns do.

[MonkeyFunk]

9. No, many do

[Midlodemocrat]

10. None that I ever heard of, and I've been a practicing Catholic for 50 years.

[MonkeyFunk]

13. well

the vow of poverty doesn't mean they have to live in sackcloths under a bridge.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12324a.htm

[Midlodemocrat]

14. Of course.

I'm just pointing out to the OP that there is no 'vow' of poverty that a priest takes during Holy Orders. Nuns do, priests don't.

[smiley_glad_hands]

15. Where do monks fall into all of this if there is still such a thing?

Just curious.

[Marrah_G]

22. Monks and nuns are members of an "order" and therefore take the vows of those orders

I believe the vow of Poverty is practiced among all orders.

[Midlodemocrat]

33. Exactly.

[Midlodemocrat]

35. Brothers and sisters always take a vow of poverty.

Good to see you, BTW. :hi:

[smiley_glad_hands]

38. Thanks, good to see you too.

I wonder if there is going to be a big dem banner on that barn along 288 again this year?

[Midlodemocrat]

40. LOL. Hope so.

I really enjoy seeing those. I hated that they took the Kaine one down.

[MonkeyFunk]

17. No

many orders, especially monastic ones, have a vow of poverty. Franciscans and Dominicans take a vow of poverty, as do many others.

It simply means they'll share all that they receive.

[smiley_glad_hands]

18. But are they Catholic Priests though?

Don't they call each other brother and not father?

[Marrah_G]

24. There are many different orders in Catholisism.

Those orders can contain monks, priests and nuns. All three would be subject to the vows of that order.

[smiley_glad_hands]

25. I just assumed Priests were part of the church hierarchy and

that orders were outside groups sanctioned by the chrurch.

[kestrel91316]

32. Ooooh, sharing. That means they're COMMUNISTS!!!1!!!11!

[Marrah_G]

19. It depends if they belong to a religious order.

Like for instance- a Jesuit Priest would take a vow of poverty as well as 3 additional vows, for a total of 4. Other orders have an additional 3 vows.

[smiley_glad_hands]

23. But are they Catholic Priests though? eom

[Marrah_G]

26. Okay let me break it down some.

You do not have to belong to an "Order" to become a priest. One third of priests join an "Order". An order also can contain monks and nuns.

If you are a priest who joined an order then you would take the VoP. If you are a priest who did not join an Order then you would not take one.

[smiley_glad_hands]

27. Thanks, that clears it up for me. eom

[Marrah_G]

28. Good. It can get confusing.

[NNN0LHI]

16. Sure they do. I know mine did

http://www.catholicdoors.com/faq/qu20.htm

Q. Is it true that most members of religious Orders make the vow of poverty?

A. Yes it is. Most members of religious Orders take the three vows of chastity, obedience and poverty.

[Orrex]

11. Is it his, or does it belong to the church?

If the former, then he's an asshole.

If the latter, then he's probably still an asshole, but at least he's not showing off his own bling.

[bean fidhleir]

44. Popes have an unlimited expense account

He doesn't have to own to enjoy.

[Orrex]

45. Sad, but true

They should make a movie about that, set in a 13th century Italian abbey.

Or a novel, at least...


:evilgrin:

[ensho]

46. there are a number of Pope/Vatican novels. one by a woman writer

was super. can't remember name, been awhile. anyway, there are several

[Name removed]

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[mitchum]

20. A longstanding tradition on order to dazzle the superstitious peasants

[ensho]

41. yes, its part of the 'charm'

nt

[spanone]

21. the vatican probably has more gold than fort knox

[smiley_glad_hands]

29. You mean there's still gold in Ft. Knox?

I thought that got looted long ago.

[lpbk2713]

30. 'I pity the fool!'

'And that's why I came to visit him!'

[Javaman]

31. It's all about the bling. nt

[DemoTex]

34. Bling + $500/pair red Pope pumps by Prado ..

[KG]

39. those Pope pumps are pimpin'!

[ensho]

36. you know that fantasy vision of the Dragon perched on top of a fortune?

that's the Pope and the Vatican multiplied.

[LondonReign2]

37. Ever been to The Vatican?

That place is one giant, unbelievable, absurdly hideous bling-bling spot. The amount of wealth the church ferreted away there for ostentatious display is disgusting.

[Matariki]

47. I thought the vatican was beautiful Renaissance architecture

and inspiring. and i'm not christian.

[ensho]

49. its beautiful

would a dragon have anything less?

[L. Coyote]

42. Precious miter, conical headgear with two points. Chasuble, low necked top dress

I wonder if the multiple-, layered-dresses style will catch on with American men?

A quick jounalist's guide to Popey style.
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Pope: chief of the Roman church.
Popey: dressing like a Roman chief.
Der fanon: two superposed capes sewn at the collar level.
Chasuble: low necked top dress without sleeves.
Sash: long decorative band passed around the neck.
Cassock: long dress attaching with buttons on the front.
Alb: long white dress worn under other clothing.
Tippet: long fabric band doubled and decorated with cross worn around the neck.
Papal ring: big ring made of precious materials.
Precious miter: conical headgear with two points.

Which is which? Go to the visual dictionary: http://www.infovisual.info/06/070_en.html

Google images has some real Popey shots, and it appears that big Precious miter hurts like hell.

[kskiska]

43. The Pope wears Prada

Pope Wears Prada, And Italy's Abuzz
Benedict Emerges as Virtual Fashion Celeb

VATICAN CITY -- Whether it's Prada and Gucci, or just fancy ecclesiastical tailoring, Pope Benedict XVI is his own man when it comes to dressing.

Just days before Christmas, Benedict showed up at his weekly public audience in St. Peter's Square wearing a fur-trimmed stocking cap that could have passed for a Santa Claus hat.

Earlier this month, he made another fashion statement -- donning a red velvet cape trimmed in ermine for the traditional papal visit to the statue of the Madonna near the Spanish Steps that marks the beginning of Rome's Christmas season.

Coming after gossip about his wearing Gucci sunglasses and bright red Prada loafers, the vintage styles have turned Benedict into something of a fashion celebrity.

"Those red shoes have made quite an impression," said Vatican historian Alberto Melloni.

more…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/22/AR2005122201914.html

[Fox Mulder]

48. God wants us all to have riches and luxury items.

Didn't you know that?

:sarcasm: