they have murdered women radio activists in Oaxaca, Mex.

[ensho]

http://www.feministpeacenetwork.org/2008/04/15/action-alert-women-community-radio-activists-murdered-in-oaxaca/


The World Association of Community Radio Broadcasters, Article 19, and Reporters Without Borders condemn the murder of two community journalists in Mexico, and we demand:

Clarification of the events that occurred on April 8th of this year, on the highway to San Juan Copala, Oaxaca, where community journalists Teresa Bautista Merino y Felicitas Martínez Sánchez, were murdered. Both journalists worked with the radio station “The Voice That Breaks the Silence” (La Voz Que Rompe El Silencio).
Punishment of all those responsible for the murder of these journalists.
The guaranteed safety of the surviving victims, Faustino Vázquez Martínez, Cristina Martínez Flores and her two sons, who witnessed the events, as well as the guaranteed safety of everyone else working at the community radio station.
An end to the impunity that allows the ongoing repression, disappearances, and murders of journalists and mediamakers in general, and which makes Mexico the most dangerous country for journalists, in the Americas.
-snip-
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men's war against women continues unabated 24/7 365 worldwide

wishing their families well

thank you Teresa and Felicitas for fighting and dying for us women and children.

[mac2]

1. Death squads soon to be in America.

[Lilith Velkor]

4. With our crime rate, who would notice?

[mac2]

10. Live in Mexico or a border town and you would see the

difference.

[Lilith Velkor]

19. Live in DC and you would see

how seamlessly death squads can blend in with common gangsters.

[mac2]

20. State Department warns about activity at the border

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/04/04/ldt.ford.interview.cnn

This is why 3rd world countries borders are not open to developed countries in the past.

[Breeze54]

22. Have you read all of the replies in this thread yet?

Do it!

You sound so close YET... no banana!

Yikes... :crazy:

[mac2]

25. We were discussing the crime from Mexico

you have to search a bit but the State Department says to stay out of Mexico. The border area is like a war zone.

[Breeze54]

26. Sooo, you did read the other replies?

The State Dept. has been saying that for years!

Ever heard of the 'War On Drugs'?

[tom_paine]

18. They may already be here, quietly, sporadically, making a few "test runs"

on executing mid-level Democratic activists who aren't "famous enough" to attract media attention.

Am I saying it's as widespread in a place like Bushie Colombia? No.

But I do remember that, in the years 2003-5, I remember several incidents of these same types of Democratic activists, none of whom were "famous enough" to trigger media response. Of these several, two jump to the front of my mind. In one, a Democratic activist/journalist was called to a secret meeting on the top floor of a building in whichthe top floor was deserted/under construction.

He ended up "falling" from a window from that top floor.

In another, a Democratic activist was murdered in DC in a mysterious "robbery attempt" in which the killers mysteriously didn't rob the victims of anything.

Now, there certainly could be other, less sinister explanations, such as Guy A committed suicide and wanted to be somewhere private where he could jump without fear of being stopped. Guy B could have been the victim of a tragic but unsuccessful robbery attempt that went astray so fast the criminals did not have a chance to steal, they killed the guy and had to get away before they had the chance.

However, can anyone look at what is happening in this country, the tactical echoes of totalitarians past, the sheer virulence and madness of the Bushie supporters and the criminality amorality of their leaders, and NOT at least have some suspicion that there is something more to this than meets the eye?

Could these have been "test runs" to check the ability of Bushies to carry these murders out and test the response of law enforcement (and how well the ground-level investigators could be suppressed and driven from any real investigation of these cases, if they were honest Americans instead of Loyal Bushies who, like the "anthrax investigators" at the FBI, who could be counted on to make sure the Bushie Perps never got caught?

I don't know, but it bears watching.

[mac2]

21. Judging from the treatment of those border guards by Bush,

he wants the drug agents to enter our country.

[Lilith Velkor]

28. What the fuck are you blabbering about?

Oaxaca is nowhere near the US border.

If you don't want to discuss the death squads there, or the possibility of death squads here, then don't. But if there's something you would like to discuss, it would be helpful if you were a bit less cryptic about it, ya know?

Sheeeeeesh. :banghead:

[Deep13]

2. .

:cry:

[John Q. Citizen]

3. So you chalk this up to a battle of the sexes? I thought it was instead a class war, the

oligarchy attempting to suppress the people.

The "journalist" who are mouth pieces for the oligarchy aren't being murdered. It's the men and women who dare to stand up to the few wealthy families who have controlled Mexico for years who are being murdered.

Gender isn't the issue. Class is the issue. The people can and will win, if they don't allow themselves to be divided by gender, racial and ethnic differences.

[ensho]

5. gender is ALWAYS a part of every issue involving 'people'

nt

[RaleighNCDUer]

6. Part of every issue, yes.

THE issue, no.

This was the silencing of journalists who happened to be women, not of women who happened to be journalists. The article you quoted specifically said it was part of a campaign against journalists.

[John Q. Citizen]

8. I disagree. Just as I disagree that skin tone (commonly misnamed as race)

is involved with every issue; nor age, or eye color, or sexual preference.

If gender were the determining factor in Oaxaca, then all the murdered men who are working along with the women to improve peoples rights wouldn't be murdered, since they are after all men. Yet they are murdered. Why? Is it because they are men, or is it because they are standing up for the rights of those men, women and children who aren't members or tools of the oligarchy?

[Breeze54]

7. This isn't "men's war against women " - that was to SILENCE them!

There is a little civil war going on there.

[ensho]

9. who held the guns

nt

[Breeze54]

11. Do you know anything that's been going on there? Men have been murdered also!

Male JOURNALISTS that dared report about the civil war and

the corruption, murdered in cold blood on the street in the daytime!

[ensho]

13. yes I know and have posted threads about it before

this thread is about these women

[Breeze54]

23. You maligned these HEROINE'S by NOT saying what they were fighting for!!!

:grr: :nuke:

You are no "feminist!"

You short changed them! :grr:

They deserve better for all of their bravery!!

[L. Coyote]

12. George Bush Sr. May Face Charges: Conspiring to Kidnap and Murder Political Activists

The big picture is a long series of atrocities against liberals who speak out.

"In Argentina alone some 30,000 people were disappeared ...."

George Bush Sr. May Face Charges: Conspiring to Kidnap and Murder Political Activists
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2459135

[ensho]

14. true

nt

[Breeze54]

15. Brad Will, New York Documentary Filmmaker and Indymedia Reporter, Assassinated by Pro-Gov Gunshot

Brad Will, New York Documentary Filmmaker and Indymedia Reporter, Assassinated by Pro-Government Gunshot

in Oaxaca While Reporting the Story

Photographer Oswaldo Ramirez of the Daily Milenio Wounded in Attack by Shooters for Ulises Ruiz Ortiz in Santa Lucia del Camino

http://www.narconews.com/Issue43/article2223.html

Brad Will, 36, a documentary filmmaker and reporter for Indymedia in New York, Bolivia and Brazil, died today of a gunshot to the chest when pro-government attackers opened fire on a barricade in the neighborhood of Santa Lucia del Camino, on the outskirts of Oaxaca, Mexico. He died with his video camera in his hands.

Brad went to Oaxaca in early October knowing, assuming and sharing the risks of reporting the story. His final published article, on October 17, titled “Death in Oaxaca,” reported the assassination of Alejandro García Hernández on the barricades set up by the Popular Assembly of the Peoples of Oaxaca (APPO, in its Spanish initials). Brad wrote:

“…went walking back from alejandros barricade with a group of supporters who came from an outlying district a half hour away—went walking with angry folk on their way to the morgue—went inside and saw him—havent seen too many bodies in my life—eats you up—a stack of nameless corpes in the corner—about the number who had died—no refrigeration—the smell—they had to open his skull to pull the bullet out—walked back with him and his people

“…and now alejandro waits in the zocalo—like the others at their plantones—hes waiting for an impasse, a change, an exit, a way forward, a way out, a solution—waiting for the earth to shift and open—waiting for november when he can sit with his loved ones on the day of the dead and share food and drink and a song—waiting for the plaza to turn itself over to him and burst—he will only wait until morning but tonight he is waiting for the governor and his lot to never come back—one more death—one more martyr in a dirty war—one more time to cry and hurt—one more time to know power and its ugly head—one more bullet cracks the night—one more night at the barricades—some keep the fires—others curl up and sleep—but all of them are with him as he rests one last night at his watch…”

Brad Will’s Assassins

[Breeze54]

16. In the Valley of the House of Death, We Shall Hide All Evil

In the Valley of the House of Death, We Shall Hide All Evil

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/story/2008/4/14/23548/7513

By Bill Conroy,
Posted on Mon Apr 14th, 2008 at 11:54:08 PM EST

As we approach April 22 and the four-year anniversary of Narco News’ first of nearly 70 reports on the House of Death, it seems only appropriate to tell the whole story once again, all in one place, if for no other reason than to put a proper tombstone on this seemingly forgotten graveyard of the war on drugs. So we begin — but it never ends….

A large swath of Ciudad Juárez is inhabited by people living on the edge of existence in shacks slapped together with sheets of plywood and cardboard. Those a bit luckier inhabit run-down, one-story cinder-block homes with barren yards that are lined along broken roadways.

The residential neighborhoods of this city sprawl over the dusty high-desert foothills of the Sierra Juárez mountain range. In the poor sections of town, dogs and drunks bark at passing cars as twilight descends on the unlit streets.

But the House of Death is sheltered from these harsher urban realities by a fenced yard, solid construction, and two stories of living space surrounded by other dwellings of similar stature. In this neighborhood, the dogs are well fed and don’t wander the streets in hungry packs, but rather bark through the screened doors of comfortable homes at passing strangers.

The House of Death, then, passes for a middle-class home in this Mexican border city of some 1.2 million people located across the Rio Grande River from El Paso, Texas.

But this house has been touched by something dark, haunted by an evil that feeds on the very soul of this border community.

Despite its seemingly sedate-looking exterior, the House of Death serves as an execution chamber and its backyard as a tomb.

The victims are lured to this House of Death, restrained and then brutally tortured and murdered. Their corpses are covered with lime to speed decomposition and then buried in the backyard.

To receive an invitation to the House of Death is not a hard thing. You just have to make a mistake, to break one of the rules....

More...

[Breeze54]

17. You left out the critical parts of the story.. here's the WHOLE story-->

Two Triqui Community Radio Reporters Assassinated

http://www.narconews.com/Issue52/article3066.html

Lawlessness, Assassination and Impunity in Oaxaca

By Nancy Davies
Commentary from Oaxaca

April 11, 2008

The Triqui indigenous community of San Juan Copala, which declared autonomy on January 21, 2007, has suffered the bitter loss of two young women. Felicitas Martinez, age 20, and Teresa Bautista, age 24, were traveling in a rural part of Oaxaca state on route to the statewide meeting “For the Defense of the Rights of the Peoples of Oaxaca,” when gunmen opened fire on their vehicle late Monday. The gunfire killed the two women, and wounded three others in the vehicle, a man and wife and their three-year-old child, the Oaxaca attorney general’s office said in a statement.

The office said the assailants used high-powered assault rifles in what it described as an ambush. No arrests have been made. And to make a point: in Oaxaca, daily assassinations occur of organized crime members, narco-traffickers, wealthy people, business people, drug dealers, indigenous people, of police and military officials, plus local and international reporters. Arrests are never made. Crimes are never solved. The daily newspaper prints photos of corpses, newly discovered or recently excavated, and that’s that.

Despite repeated condemnations by human rights groups within the state, nationally and internationally, the government response is rhetorical. Instead, the state of Oaxaca is highly militarized. While I sit at my computer in the morning I hear the helicopters buzzing overhead, with armed troopers hanging out the doors – a bit of theater which serves only to intimidate. The most publicized clean-up attempt thus far has been to rotate military and police units in an effort to break their allegiances with organized crime.

The two assassinated women worked for a community radio station called “The Voice that Breaks the Silence” in San Juan Copala where activists in January of 2007 declared San Juan Copala an autonomous municipality in a challenge to state officials. This declaration included the local Triqui movement united for struggle, MULT, which had been corrupted by the Revolutionary Institutional Party (PRI, in its Spanish initials). The new Triqui municipality, through its organization called MULTI (the Independent United Triqui Movement for Struggle), called for union of all Triquis and implicitly rejected the PRI and government paramilitary, thus breaking their hegemonic control in the region.

More...

[tkmorris]

24. This is an insult to the people of Oaxaca

What happened there has nothing to do with men versus women. There are some very REAL human rights problems in that area and the murder of these two women was due to their support of the people and their struggle.

When you try to make this incident be about your pet issue instead of what it was really about you are denigrating and minimizing the issues they actually cared about. In fact, not only do you do an injustice to their cause, you also harm your own by making one of it's more outspoken proponents (you) appear foolish. If you believe that there really is a "men's war against women" then you should have no problem pointing out actual examples of it without resorting to twisting whatever the latest headlines are to your advantage.

[Breeze54]

27. Well said. Thank You!

:grr:

[Quantess]

29. Who is "they"?

Please specify "they".