The Confederate Flag & The Pope in front of the white house?

[Limelight]

Forget that the Pope is there, why the hell is there a flag, The Mississippi state flag as I understand it, depicting the confederate battle flag flying in front of the white house at all for any reason?

:mad: :wtf: :mad:

[Seeking Serenity]

1. Maybe because Mississippi is one of the 50 states?

Just a guess.

[Limelight]

2. The rest of the 50 states aren't represented smart guy...

So why that one?

Edit:

Alright, I'll take that back... I looked closer at the pictures, I see a lot of states flags so it's probable they are all there. I guess it's a bigger debate about why the hell confederate symbols are even allowed on flags, including in my home state of Alabama.

Still highly in appropriate. They'd have been smart to move it some place where it wouldn't be caught in shots of the event.

[DAGDA56]

5. Actually, that is an Indiana flag behind the Pope...maybe a wider shot would show others.

nt

[Bucky]

6. That blue one with the yellow liberty torch is a state flag too (Indiana)

That's just the one the Pope happened to be standing in front of.

http://www.netstate.com/state_flags.htm

[Kolesar]

17. The torch is for lighting the burning cross...eom

[Bucky]

8. New rule: You can't sarcastically call someone "smart guy" while saying something stupid

[Seeking Serenity]

10. Good answer! Good answer!

[seabeyond]

25. new rule..... bah hahahaha. that is funny. n/t

[DemBones DemBones]

30. Hear, hear! If there are 2 flags we can see, i'll bet there are

48 we can't see. There's no reason for 2 state flags to be hanging alone in front of the White House.

[Seeking Serenity]

12. Alabama's flag has the Confederate Battle Flag in it?

I didn't know that. I thought it was just a white flag with a red St. Andrew's cross on it. Am I wrong?

[Limelight]

15. That big red X was the states battle flag during the confederacy, yes...

[DemBones DemBones]

29. Got a link to show that? That "X" is a saltire, a very old

Christians symbol, and, given the coloring of Alabama's flag, it's probably intended to be a St. Patrick's cross.

[DemBones DemBones]

27. No, you are correct. People seem to think that any flag with a saltire or

St.Andrew's cross is a Confederate symbol but the St. Andrew's cross is a very old Christian symbol that has been used on many flags for many centuries. And the Alabama flag is probably a St. Patrick's cross, given that it's identical in color.

The Confederate battle flag is a blue St. Andrew's cross with white stars on a red field and it is a square flag. A rectangular flag of the same design is properly called the navy jack or ensign but it was sometimes carried on land, most people don't know the difference, and the rectangular design is more commonly used. The stars on the saltire represent the states of the Confederate States of America.

It is also called the Southern Cross, the Rebel flag, and even the St. Andrew's Cross (but that's technically wrong because a St. Andrew's Cross shouldn't have stars on it.)

It is NOT the Stars and Bars, that's a different Confederate flag. See post # 19 to see the Stars and Bars.

St. Andrew was crucified on an X-shaped cross, a saltire, because he considered himself unworthy to be crucified in the same way that Jesus was. St. Andrew was one of the original disciples, the younger brother of St. Peter.

St. Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland. The national flag of Scotland is a white St. Andrew's Cross on a royal blue field. It became the Scottish flag in the middle of the tenth century A.D.

Many Southerners were of Scottish ancestry so the St. Andrew's cross was a familiar Christian symbol to them.

The Alabama state flag is a red St. Andrew's cross on a white field, no stars, which looks like a St. Patrick's cross, which is a red saltire on a white field. Since there are many people of Irish descent in the South, it might be meant to be a St. Patrick's cross. It might have been used by an Alabama regiment as a battle flag, I don't know. There were lots of regimental and unit flags.

The British Union Jack is a combination of a St. Andrew's cross, a St. George's cross, and a St. Patrick's cross. St. Patrick is of course the patron saint of Ireland and St. George is patron saint of England.

Mississippi's state flag, as we saw behind GWB, has a square Confederate battle flag in the upper left corner.

Mississippi voters voted to keep this design several years ago, a majority of both blacks and whites supported keeping the flag as it was.

Georgia's governor Roy Barnes got the legislature to remove the small Confederate flag from Georgia's state flag, angering many Georgians because they were given no chance to vote on keeping the flag or on a new design. A lot of state flags could use better designs, though whether the voters would choose the better looking of two or three choices is hard to say. Getting to choose does make voters happy, though. Roy Barnes was not re-elected, though that was the year Georgia got computerized voting and he had also pissed off all of most of the teachers in Georgia, so the flag may not have been much of a factor in his defeat.

[fascisthunter]

3. That Explains WHy the Confederate Flag is There

what are you talking about? :wtf:

[Seeking Serenity]

9. What are YOU talking about?

[fascisthunter]

13. Is That the Confederate Flag?

answered below

[Seeking Serenity]

18. No, it's Mississippi's flag.

They are not synonymous.

[Limelight]

20. They are synonymous

When it carries the confederate flag in the upper left hand corner.

[DemBones DemBones]

28. That's a silly statement and the voters of Mississippi chose to have that flag.

A majority of black and white voters voted to keep the flag as it was.

[rubberducky]

4. I remarked on this on another thread.

Why in the hell would the confederate flag be flown there??

[dger11]

7. Very bizarre picture

[Gold Metal Flake]

11. Attention, please...

[fascisthunter]

14. Ah... thank you

[Kolesar]

16. Makes y'all kinda bleary-eyed, don't it, don't it?

Ok, the "stars and bars" (blech) are the canton of the Mississippi flag, hence that what is shown behind Mr. Pope.

[Seeking Serenity]

19. The Stars and Bars is not the Battle Flag

This is the Stars and Bars.

[Kolesar]

22. Not so bleary-eyed for that one

I remember a film of a George Wallace rally where the crowd in the balcony was waving the "Confederate battle flag" and the "Nazi swastika flag". Pretty horrible. It was one of Bill Moyers' programs, I think from when he was hosting NOW on PBS.

[Seeking Serenity]

23. I know. I know.

I just mentioned that slight correction because people often misidentify the Battle Flag as the "Stars and Bars." They were two different critters. The former was a military flag, the latter was a political one.

[BlooInBloo]

21. Only in America.

[DemBones DemBones]

24. The Mississippi state flag probably is flown only in America,

like any other state flag.

[yurbud]

26. it looks like the pope is about to say ''Up, up, and away!''

[haymakeragain]

31. Are all the states' flags there or not?

If so, I guess it is just luck (bad?) that Mississippi's happens to be captured in this manner.