How do you feel about the odds of us winning the Presidency at this point?

[onehandle]

We all have to agree that damage has been done.

Forget who may or may not be the Nominee.
(Keep your candidate bashing for GD-P)

[Arger68]

1. I said 50-50.

Just the way the media wants it.:eyes:

[bunkerbuster1]

2. I think Americans are a lot brighter than the Rethugs or media imagine them to be

I think they want a President who treats them like adults. I could be wrong.

[Warpy]

4. They're just as dumb as they've been since liberals went out

of power for the last time in 1969, but conservative rule from both parties is having its inevitable outcome so they're a lot angrier.

Angry voters bode ill for the party that's been in control. If the Democrats want to keep power, they're going to have to provide some real change and not just window dressing that keeps corporate coffers fat.

[EVDebs]

3. Underlining Obama's run for Pres is a Great Awakening among Christians

A huge block of voters are becoming aware of neocon/Bushco's irreparable foilbles and are hungry for change,

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=special.TGA&item=TGA_main

as Jim Wallis's book shows. The subtitle says it all, reviving faith and politics in a post religious right America ! Obama can do it and nobody else can. That's the message Obama's team will show during the coming days.

[NewJeffCT]

5. I'd be surprised if we won

the media loves McCain and will give him a free pass on just about anythiing.

[last_texas_dem]

6. Fairly sure that we will lose

We have a lot of experience with doing so, and seem to be doing everything we can to screw over our chances once again this time- despite what should be a good year for us.

[Fireweed247]

7. certain we will actually win- certain they will try to steal it

McCain is a psychopath, everyone is sick of Bush and his war of terror...there is no way McCain can win!

But they didn't win the last two either...

[garybeck]

8. ding-ding-ding!

you win the prize!

[madokie]

9. about 5 to 1

even the press can't do it this time nor will the voting machines be able to cause there will be millions voting this upcoming election who haven't voted ever before.

[Clear Blue Sky]

10. Agree with 50/50

Last few elections have been close so I would expect this one to be as well.

The media will do their best to make it close so people watch the news rather than American Idol. Ratings=$$.

[Fireweed247]

11. Manufactured Consent

The media tries to make it appear to be close, so when they steal it no one will be surprised.

[Beausoleil]

12. 50/50

There is a plan for the Busheviks to remain in power, you can bet on that.

They may not be able to deliver the raw votes but they have learned a multitude of techniques such as voter disenfranchisement and campaign smearing all the way to vote theft and judicial corruption to enable them to pull it off. There is a concerted effort to get McLame close enough for them to steal it again, he is being positioned by the media.

If McLame were somehow to lose or not get close enough (it'll probably come down to one state again), then expect them to make their big move, whatever that entails. And they have set up enough of the fascistic infrastructure they need to carry it out without too much dissent or difficulty.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Darth get to choose the VP again, if you know what I mean.

If it were a fair contest, the Dem nominee would win in a landslide. But we're just not going to see that.

[brentspeak]

13. I'm not optimistic

Believe it or not, even after all the damage Bush has wreaked, we may be looking at Bush II (McSame) in January. Let's hope not.

[susankh4]

14. We will win if

we have a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket.

Otherwise... probably not.

[susankh4]

16. A couple of other suggestions for an iron clad win:

Obama as Prez.

Hill as VP.

Bill as back porch pitbull.

George Stephanopulis can handle the press corp. for 'em.

(Question: Is George vying to go back to the White House? Watching this again, I kinda think he may be trying to prove how he understands the RW media mind.)

[tom_paine]

15. Three words: Another stolen election.

You think the Bushies, after their wild successes in Election Fraud, are just going to fold up the tent and go home? Be too scared of getting caught after they have gotten away scot-free, often with the help of our Democratic Leadership, who bury what few chances they even have to open this can of snakes and prosecute them (such as FL-13 and others in 2006, where the Bushies were busted red-handed, and the Democrats made sure the investigation was killed before it could even start...why, I am not even goign to bothe to speculate, it just is)?

Hell, no! In fact, they are so confident after getting away with it for so long they have arrogantly and openly expanded their non-electronic portion of their Voter Disenfranchisement "Jeb Crow" Laws even though it was shown the whole trumped up "Voter Fraud" scandal was nothing of the sort.

Jyust a cover for their own massive Bushe Election Fraud Programs.

In any case, the Dem will have to win in actual votes cast by 10-12% to "win in a squeaker".

If McBush with the usual help of the Toady Media (can anyone doubt after last night's "debate" that NOTHING has changed significantly in the Toady Media in a decade or more...it is still the bad joke it has been for years) can actually win by a narrow margin in actual votes cast, it means in the "Counted Vote Tally" McBush will win in a 60-40% landslide.

You watch. I hope I'm wrong, but after seven years, the likelihood is pretty small.

[JDPriestly]

17. The only candidate who could have won was John Edwards.

The debate last night showed out weak and out of touch Obama and Hillary really are.

[NoPasaran]

18. I plan to be in Washington to watch Hillary Clinton take the Oath of Office

It will be a great day for America: January 20, 2009.

[trotsky]

19. It doesn't look that great right now.

But it will look much better once we have a nominee. Yes, the media will side with McCain and make it difficult for us, but there is just no way we lose this one. People are fed up with Boosh and once they see McSame is just that, our candidate will jump ahead by 20 pts.

[underpants]

20. We'll win-all the energy now split between the two will be redirected

Since this so close to pro wrestling anyway this analogy fits-ever seen when one guy throws another one into the ropes and he slingshots back? Same thing here

[AndyTiedye]

21. This Election Looks Way Too Much Like A Repeat of 1972

We are starting with a horribly divisive primary campaign. The worst in living memory. The 1972 primary campaign was amicable by comparison to this one.

They will know all our strategies and plans instantly, since they can Watergate us with impunity now. A direct line from the NSA to the RNC can be assumed.

The Repiglickin control of the media is far more comprehensive than ever before. We still had a free press in the 70s. Not any more.

Wars, even really unpopular wars, always help the party in power. In 1972, opposition to the war was around 70%. We lost 49 states.

One significant difference is that Bush seems to have delivered us a war and a recession at the same time.
I don't think anyone has ever done THAT before. Sort of an economic miracle in reverse.
Granpa McLame obviously hasn't got a clue about how to fix the economy, and our candidates do.
I hope that will be enough.